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Congrats to our testers - that thing looks like braces did back in my day - I will be I treated to earn how it works

I use every club in my bag most rounds, too - The question asked and that should be considered is how often does one use them. As an ensemble I use my irons the least. Like a boob I’ve spent more money on them than the other ensemble groups in my bag or driver or putter (if I had purchased my putter.) I also practice more with my irons than any other club when my usage suggests that shouldn’t be the case. So I appreciate this thread because it has me rethinking my practice time. I will confess that I just bought a set of older PXGs on eBay but I bought them to pull the shafts - it was cheaper than buying the shafts. But I would be better off investing that money on refinishing my trumpet or lessons or garden tools than irons -

Interesting and a byproduct of you being younger and longer But still irons are in the 4th slot. Part of what has irons so low for me is that 6 or 7 would be the longest iron that I game - normally 7. Where others might hit 5 or 6 I’m hitting 9 wood or 26 degree hybrid. Does anyone know what the break down would be for touring pros? LPGA players? This thread has also reminded me that I need to get back to spending more time practicing my wedges.

I’ve done this exercise for myself and posted on the topic. For most players irons are ridiculously overrated. There are always exceptions but if you looked at them as groups - driver, fairway woods, irons, wedges, putter - irons are almost always in the 4th or 5th slot - and we spend more money on them and more practice time with them. Because they are often in the number 2 or 3 slot for the top .01 Good topic

With a 5 hybrid he’s only gaming through 6 iron - a top level pro is not going to need the forgiveness in those shorter irons - many of them play blended sets to 5 or 6 iron. Honestly his bag looks a lot like mine could other than the shaft flex/weight and 6 iron - I use a ping G410 5 hybrid as my 6 iron it fits perfectly with the players distance irons that I game. I will be anxiously anxiously awaiting those thoughts on the S159’s - they have my full attention and I’m sitting on a $200 Dick’s gift card.

It also speaks to the current cost of living, I think. Not nearly as much disposable income.

The ability to hit long irons passed me by long ago even when I was a low single digit handicapper. But the pros and cons of each are pretty straight forward: Hybrid, flies higher and is generally easier to hit particularly out of the rough. It is also useful around the green for chips shots. The cons are that its harder to control in the wind and some people have trouble hooking it. Long iron launches lower and can be a great option off the tee on windy days or tighter holes. the negative is that it is not as versatile and because it launches lower doesn't hold well on firmer greens. I see that you live in TN. If you are playing hilly mountainous courses the hybrid would seem to me to be the better choice. Hard to get those long irons to run up a slope. Good luck

Thanks for sharing this. In addition to being a well done video it touches on a topic that has fascinated me for some time. Golfers talk about feel all the time. But how does one quantify it? These engineers are busting their humps to do that. Plus the one guys back yard looks like mine.

That's awesome - don't get discouraged if that doesn't hold on the course - just stick with what worked in the lesson - it takes a while for it to feel natural and under a little pressure it's easy to forget. (that advice is meant for me, too - I recently had a lesson that really helped but it also feels a bit unnatural and at times I'm reverting)

Its a cheaper option than buying a new club. Good luck and let us know if it helps.

Awesome - enjoy. I will look forward to a full report.

You're going to learn everyone's favorite fairway wood, hybrid or long iron substitute - unfortunately their favorite may not work for you. I'd highly recommend that you consider a lesson focusing on driver - if you know of a good teacher - or that you go get fit for driver if you aren't already fit - you may find that's the best solution. Good luck.

Actually, the poor trade in value on a premium item like this one makes sense to me. Most of the people who buy Miura irons are going to want to buy new, not used. Honestly I've never purchased golf equipment based on its trade in value, never even considered it quite honestly. Foolish or not I think that the piece of equipment that I'm purchasing will be the last one ever. Of course when I first started playing golf technological advances and new product releases were slow in coming. For example, my Ping Eye 2's were as good as anything on the market for a decade, too good I guess because the USGA fought in court to have them declared illegal, even though they had approved them for play - I can never figure that organization out, they are so reactive. At any rate I gamed those irons for over 15 years and the wedges longer than that - I still used the W from that set as my gap wedge more than 20 years after I purchased them. So that's my thought process when purchasing. Even when I buy a driver I'm thinking 5 years - I haven't gotten more than 2 out of the past several but 5 years is what I'm thinking. Whatever Miura's resale or trade in value might be I don't think it's fair to judge them on it - that's strictly a market driven matter. They have next to no control over it.

Ditto And also there are fittings and fittings - was this really a fitting or a demo day? Big Difference there. I saw a respondent say he had a bad fitting at Golftec - I believe it because not all Golftec's are alike. I was fit at my local Golftec last year and it was a great experience. I particularly appreciated the follow up - by the time I had my driver in hand I knew it was what I was fit for. So that's another possibility of the OP - have you brought the driver in to be sure that you got what was ordered? The gap in technology between a R11 and Stealth 2 is so great that it is hard to imagine how you wouldn't see a benefit unless you were completely missfit, there were something wrong with the way the club was built or something has gone side ways with your swing - that happens too - I've been unhappy with a new set of irons that I purchased last summer - they were great at first and then I started having issued - had to be their fault, right? Not so fast there Indian, it was clearly me, I'm swinging much better and guess what. All of a sudden the irons aren't so bad as I thought they were. Actually there are pretty sweet - I'm glad I didn't sell them as I threatened to a couple of months ago. Any way - I'm wondering if the driver came in differently from what was ordered.

Congrats on the milestone to a great forum member and contributor!

Grace Lutheran St Pete - my church’s Field of 68 after dark Storrs Central None of those should be shocking to anyone who knows me.

You are on fire with these topics, Jamie, thanks! Since people are most important to me that is first and foremost here. I’ve made a number of very good friends through the Forums. Some that I play golf with throughout the year. From there influence has included 1. Becoming convinced to always play a tour level golf ball. I came here because the arguments against it didn’t make sense to me. 2. Every piece of equipment fits somebody but not everybody. So don’t assume that this years sensation will be “it” for your game. 3. It’s always about the basics - grip, strip, stance, posture, ball position - I saw this again at my lesson yesterday. This is where the you tube stuff is dangerous - most of what they teach there works - if you have a sound grip, set-up, etc. The issue is chances are you don’t and that’s what’s causing the problem. $75 for a good hour lesson is money well spent. 4. Fitting is important but just like teachers there are good fitters and not so good ones. In the past 10 years I’ve been fit for driver length from 45.75 to 44.25 - what the F? I think its most helpful if the player being fit has a general idea of what he or she is looking for first - not in regards to equipment but in regards to ball flight, ball speed, etc. 5. OEMs are not the enemy - yes they market and yes they make products that will sell but they do a good job of it and generally speaking when you reach out to them. 6. Smaller companies have a lot to offer - 7. Set make up should match your game, not Tigers. A biggie here is use the most help in irons that your eye can take unless you are an exceptional ball striker. If you insist on a set make up like a pros be sure that the pro has an l before pga on her tour card. 8. Be sure to get fit for putter. I will say that I’ve also been influenced to make done purchases that I regretted but I did so willingly and in good fun.

I’ve honestly gotten to where I could care less about playing golf. If friends are here, I will play with them. My game had deteriorated so much though the actual golf was not fun. I finally broke down and took a lesson today. I’ve had so many issues and been so busy and little to no motivation - glad I went - my teacher was stunned when he saw my swing - but he said my grip and take away were still there - he had me hitting some reasonable shots after three balls and finally feeling like every swing would not be a shank. After a dozen 8 irons I was hitting them high and straight on target. He even had me make a set up change that he always wanted to make but didn’t suggest because I was a consistent ball striker - I was really popping shot after shot by the end. So we tried driver - I’d even been struggling with that - it was a simple ball position fix and bang -high fades - I’m sure they will turn into draws once I start practicing more. I actually want to play golf again now.

It’s kind of dated advice - very few of our courses have Bermuda greens or fairways anymore. They’ve all switched over to some sort of hybrid grass that plays more like northern grasses. This time of year the real issue that you find is around the green it will be grainier and if you have little shots into the grain they can be buggers. Very easy to chunk so use the flattest club possible even putter from off the green. If you are here in the summer we still have Bermuda rough and that stuff is brutal. I played up north last May and had forgotten how much thicker our rough is here compared to the rough there - two inches of rough here makes life miserable around the greens or on full shots.

So, when I saw this topic I thought - hey I'm going to apply for a testing opportunity at some point this year so it must be the My Golf Spy website. (A little brown nosing never hurt) I get the sense that the OP means piece of equipment though. I have enough clubs that I've actually bought hanging around that I can't go looking for stuff like Wilson 1 irons (although I actually had a 1 iron in my bag at one time.) That is a really sweet find and nice piece to have hanging on the wall or in a spare bag. I could hear the conversation now: "You should have seen how I hit it back in the day!"

I haven't heard this one in a while but I've experienced it too many times of late: Doggie Balls - Making an 8 on a hole

Thanks for your prompt replies to my questions, guys. I really appreciate it - enjoy and I look forward to reading about your exploits.

Good morning spies and happy Fat Tuesday back at you! I'm going to celebrate in a dentists chair this afternoon. Since she was a DI athlete (volley ball at BC) I will make another hoops comment - I don't know why the Purdue hate. No one, not even my huskies, are playing as well as they are right now. College teams are not the same in late February/March as they were in November/December/early January. These are kids, they grow and learn - Syracuse won a National Championship in a year they "lost" a scrimmage to a DII team. I get some questions about Painter given the schools recent tournament record but based on the metrics, their W-L record, Quad 1 wins, recent road wins and an eye test Purdue is in the top tier - with UConn and Houston is knocking at the front door asking to be let in. And I predict that my huskies will loose at least 2 games in the coming weeks. Why? Because in conference road games against desperate teams are not at all like what one will face in the NCAA tournament. I've been to both and seen that first hand - from officiating, to crowd noise they are totally different.

Congrats guys - great group - I have an upfront question for the group. Are any of you currently gaming some iteration of stealth and if so were you fit for what you are gaming and if so how - demo day or full bore fitting. Thanks

That’s a game in January - UConn had one of those, too. Purdue and UConn are both winning on the road - UConn’s got a couple of very tough road games left and will loose a couple of them. I just see those two teams as having separated themselves - doesn’t mean they won’t have an injury or off night at the wrong time. I have a funny feeling about Arizona if I’m going outside of those two.