Bucky CC

Right now I have an Evnroll TourTac 90g putter grip on my Odyssey putter. I've also used SuperStroke Pistol 1.0 grips a fair amount in the past. I wouldn't mind going with one of the Edel dual layered grips but we'll see how they feel when I have my fitting in less than 2 weeks.

In the past 10' and in has been almost immediate with a new putter. Where it usually takes more work for me is for longer putts; making sure I lag them close enough to the hole where I don't have a ton of knee knockers left.

Reading through all these updates today makes me really jealous you guys have already had your fittings. Mine is scheduled for March 16th, so I have a ways to go yet. Thanks to the unseasonably warm weather in Wisconsin I was able to go out and play a round this morning with my current gamer. I ended up with 35 putts (1 three putt), but the greens were still covered with sand from the winter. It's really hard to gauge speed putting through these.

I would think shorter putts would be a pretty quick adjustment for everyone. My bigger concern is longer distance lag putts. Coming from a fairly soft feeling white hot insert on my Odyssey I'm expecting a bit of an adjustment period to the milled face of the Arrays. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.

With any of these "rare" covers it's all about what someone is willing to pay for it. From a quick search on eBay you can find Scotty covers with the divot tool in the recently sold range of $35 up to $450. You'd probably be somewhere in the middle to lower end of that since it would take a very specific buyer to pay top dollar for a hotel chain like Ritz-Carlton.

Not sure on that yet. Edel does sell them for $45 through their website, so it's always an option down the road if the putter seems solid but the alignment is off once we take them out on the course.

I'd be lying if I said I was expecting anything other than the F-2 in the fitting. That being said, I'll definitely hit all four models and build whatever gives me the best results.

Intro post is up! As always let us know if you have any specific questions or things you'd like to see out of our reviews.

Morning everyone! A lot of golf courses are starting to open up here in Wisconsin, which is very unusual for February. Of course since it's so early we still run into days like this: This gif has been used to death, but I feel it's pretty appropriate in this case.

Some of you have already mentioned working out at gyms, but are any of the testers going strictly with the home workout aspect of the program? I've dabbled in Fit for Golf before and Mike really likes cable machines for various pulls and twists. I tried replicating using resistance bands, but it was always difficult to find something that was stretchy enough to complete the full motion, but strong enough to actually give me a good bit of resistance. Eager to see how you all get along with the new program. Good luck!

Super excited about this one. If the Edel Array putters and fitting process is half as good as predicted we should all be in for a real treat.

Hey everyone! Bucky CC checking in from the great state of Wisconsin. Before we get started I wanted to give a huge shout out and sincere thank you to MyGolfSpy, the MGS forum, fellow Spy’s big and small, and of course, Edel. I’ve been lucky enough to do a few tests and every time they are the absolute highlight of my year. Here I am about to die while my son has the time of his life. I’ve been playing golf for more than 30 years now. Started around age 10 in the backyard trying to be like my older brother and have been playing ever since. I spent most of 2023 as a 4 handicap with all aspects of my game being fairly equal. My home course has a lot of penalty areas off the tee, so when I keep the ball in play I tend to stay in the mid 70’s. You can see from the graphic above putting is actually one of my stronger traits. But if that’s true, why have I had 12 putters going back to the last real fitting I had in 2011? In order (to the best of my memory): Odyssey Dual Force 668, Odyssey Works #1 Wide Versa, Bettinardi Kuchar Model 1 (standard length), 2015 Ping Ketsch Mid, Evnroll ER2, Evnroll ER5 Odyssey Stroke Lab Black 7 S, Odyssey Stroke Lab Black 7, TaylorMade Spider SR, PXG Battle Ready Bat Attack, Evnroll ER5 (black this time), Odyssey White Hot OG Stroke Lab 7 As you can see, I’m a bit of a putter hoe (and have a things for Mallets in the #7 mold). When I saw the testing opportunity for the Edel Array I thought I finally found the holy grail of tests for my game. Not only would I be getting a new putter (lucky #13!), but I would have the opportunity to go through one of the most comprehensive fittings to build an extremely customized putter built to my exact specifications. I plan to test the Edel (model # to be determined) against my current Odyssey White Hot OG #7 indoors on putts up to 10. Once the weather warms up a bit I’ll take things outdoors for a head to head battle and a look against over 175 rounds of Arccos data. My expectation is that the fitting will build an immediate trust level knowing the Array will be fit to my exact aiming tendencies, path bias, stroke type, etc. I’m hoping to see immediate improvement on the greens from 10’ and in since I'll conceivably be lining up the putter correctly and have something that fits my exact stroke. My biggest worry at the moment is how the milled face will feel against the soft White Hot OG insert I spent all last year getting used to. Long putts could be an issue for a while. And if everything falls apart and I stay the exact same I'll at least be able to prove that it’s not the putter, it’s the guy holding the club. Not sure if my teenage daughter would be impressed or horrified that I used a Taylor Swift gif The Fitting: Before I get into my scoring I want to put a huge disclaimer out there. I was not able to get fit for the Array before it had to be ordered for our testing. Edel rolled out the Array to all corporate owned Golftec’s along with select other fitting studios a few months ago. Unfortunately all of the Golftec’s in Wisconsin are franchise locations and did not receive their fitting kits before my order had to be placed. The Club Champions in Wisconsin also chose not to carry the Array line so I did not have an option to get fit. If you look at my previous history with putters you can see I’m pretty set on fang style mallet putters. I ended up matching the specs of my gamer as best as I could for this test: 35" length, face balanced, dot alignment, standard loft and lie. First Impressions (18 out of 20) Out of the box I was immediately impressed with the Array F-2 putter. Very clean lines, weight felt comfortable, and the headcover seemed to be well constructed rather than a throw-in afterthought. I ended up choosing the F-2 with three dot alignment as it most closely resembles my current Odyssey White Hot OG #7 putter. The styles are very similar, with the Odyssey coming in slightly larger while the Array is 10 grams heavier (563 vs 573 grams for the F-2). I'm not sure what alignment plate would have been picked for me through an actual fitting. While the dots are comfortable to me I wonder how things would have looked with the two line alignment or one of the other 5 options. Technology-wise Edel really focuses on the customization available through the fitting process. Their website mentions things like aim/path bias, face rotation, optimizing weight to control your speed, and stroke type being key to finding the perfect putter. Unfortunately most of those are dependent getting professionally fit for the club. The face has a special milling pattern, but Edel doesn’t seem to explain on their site what exactly the pattern does. I assume it helps with off center hits and is not just a fancy design for visual enjoyment. Overall this is hard for me to grade as most of Edel’s claims about the putter are about the customization available through the fitting, and I was not able to be fit. The putter is unquestionably well made and I have zero reservations about taking it out to the course. It's familiar yet different enough to be distinguishable from the other five million fang style mallets out there. Aesthetics (9 out of 10) I touched on the style a bit already, but if you’ve ever gamed a winged mallet putter you’ll have no problem feeling comfortable with the Array F-2. All of the graphics and paint fill are done extremely well with tight tolerances. You can tell just by looking at it that Edel makes a very high-end putter without being overly flashy about it. No one in my regular foursome noticed I had a new putter until a few holes into our first round. Once it was passed around they all remarked on how clean it looked and comfortable hitting a few practice putts. Feel of the F-2 is hard to explain. It’s a forged and machine milled face made out of 1025 carbon steel. The impact feels more harsh than the white hot insert on my Odyssey, but somehow it also comes off at a slower/softer speed. I found myself having to purposefully swing a bit harder with the F-2 to make sure I didn’t leave putts short. The white hot insert seems to bounce/spring off the face while the F-2 is more of a concentrated swing effort to get it rolling the correct speed. Big plus on the aethetic side is being able to pick up a ball with the back of the putter. It may seem like a small detail but I like that they made sure the wings can pick up the ball even with the alignment plate taking up so much space. The Numbers (7 out of 10) (indoors only so far) In preparation for this test I went to my local home improvement store and purchased a 6’ wide by 21’ long strip of thin carpet. A makeshift stimpmeter showed the mat rolls somewhere in the 10-11 range. I set up a 9 hole course with a putt locations every two feet all the way up to 18’. The Stack putting app helped me randomize the putt length and keep track of the head to head putter battle. After the first 144 shots my gamer is a clear winner over the F-2. As you can see from the table below I have no problem with straight putts less than 10’ but once you get past that mark I start having issues with the Array. I’ve taken the F-2 out on the course a few times and so far my on-course experience has mirrored my indoor testing. I have no doubt the putter has the potential to be great with a proper fitting, but will my off the rack specs show enough on the course to be able to knock the gamer out of my bag? Update 5/11/2024: On-Course (18 out of 20) I’ve been able to take the Edel Array F-2 out on the course for five full rounds during our testing period (a minor miracle this early in Wisconsin). I have to say that after struggling with the putter indoors I was pleasantly surprised with the improvement I’ve seen in regards to on-course performance. Lining up putts with the three dot alignment felt very natural to me. I had no issues with the ball rolling on my intended line, and frequently ended up with positive Arccos strokes gained putting similar to the round below. The only area where I really struggled with the Array was the softer feel compared to my gamer. A few times I came up very short on long putts and was faced with a 5+ foot knee knocker to avoid a three putt. Thankfully the putter was solid enough to make more than miss in those situations. For good and bad, this putter is a two-putt machine. The Good, the bad, the inbetween (17 out of 20) My favorite part of this putter is the overall look. It’s a very familiar looking #7 fang style putter, but is different enough with the black and silver contrasting colors to be unique. The only thing I would change when looking down at the putter is to add a dot closer to the face. The alignment plate sits back just a little too far for me. The grip I ended up picking blind was just OK. I chose the flat standard rubber grip but wish I had gone with a more familiar SuperStroke or Evnroll TourTac grip. The putter and headcover scream well-made brilliance while the grip seems like something you would find on a putter from 20 years ago. I would love to see Edel follow the lead of so many other putter companies and offer a SuperStroke type grip as a standard option. I love the fact that you can buy additional alignment plates and club weights on the Edel website. Cost is a little on the high side ($50 for two weights, $45 for an alignment plate), and you shouldn't need anything else after going through a fitting, but it's nice to have options if something doesn't feel quite right on the course. I'm also not sure how I feel about the difficulty to try these putters out before buying. The only place to be able to test out the Array line in the entire state is one of four Golftec locations. I didn't deduct any points for that, but I hope that in the future we'll start to see more fitting kits out in the wild. Play it or Trade it? (18 out of 20) If I sent my Arccos stats for the Array F-2 to a random golfer they would say “Congrats, you found yourself a great putter!” I would agree based solely on the strokes gained numbers and overall confidence I had on the greens. The problem is it could not beat out my previous gamer. Here are the head to head stats along with the average 4.0 index according to Arccos. The stats are calculated off the last 100 shots for each club. Two putt percentage a full 15% above the average and 10% above my gamer? That's amazing! Also can't beat the low three putt percentage and positive strokes gained. What’s not to like about the Array? 80% two putt percentage makes me feel a little like Rory at the 2022 Open (he two putted all 18 greens to finish in 3rd place). Absolutely fantastic to limit the three putts but every once in a while you get frustrated not being able to walk off the green with a one-putt birdie or par saver. Rather than choose between Play it or Trade it I’d like to go with a 3rd category; keep it as my backup. I guarantee that at some point over the next few weeks/months my gamer will go cold and need to be put in a timeout. It’s great to know that I have such a fantastic putter in the Array F-2 waiting to be put in play. (will probably happen sooner rather than later) Conclusion The Edel Array F-2 is a great putter. With the huge number of customization options I would highly recommend you get fit before purchasing. Finding a location to get fit at may be an issue but once you have your specs dialed in there will be no looking back. The forged face comes off softer than I expected but I had no issues getting the ball rolling on my intended start line. The only change I would make to my setup is to possibly replace the flat standard rubber grip with an upgraded SuperStroke style grip. I'm really nitpicking here though. These are great putters. Thanks again to MGS and Edel for this incredible opportunity! Final Score (87 out of 100)

It's fine. Don't love it, don't hate it. Won't be buying anything if it's as overpriced as everyone is predicting. Like a lot of the other comments the logo seems pretty weak. I'm sure they ran into the issue that there are already 10million other tiger/big cat logos out there so they had to try and come up with something different. It's too bad they couldn't have brought over the Frank headcover logo.

Haven't tried the iCrossover yet, but I did pick up a used G410 crossover on the cheap late last year. Like you I was looking for something a little more consistent in my 4 hybrid. I only got to play it a few times before winter hit, but it was magical. The easy high flight helped me stick a few 2nd shots onto par 5 greens that would have normally rolled through the green. Distance wise it is a few yards shorter than my Cobra hybrid, but it makes up for that having a higher trajectory and tighter dispersion. The 3 hybrid could be in trouble if the 4 crossover continues to perform well.

Pretty boring year for me. At the start of the year I was hoping to practice more and drop down into the two's (taste the 2's! as Chasing Scratch would say), but life got in the way and my practice sessions all but dried up as we hit the summer.

Agreed. Absolutely beautiful putters (maybe not so much with the 11). Would be a day 1 buy for me if they actually had some sort of technological advantage/story to them. Hard to justify $400+ on looks alone.

ER5 black has me interested. I used to game one a few years ago and liked it quite a bit, but wished the face was a bit softer. Sounds like the new changes are marketed directly towards me.

Same thing at my course. Even calling the pro shop is no guarantee of speeding things up thought. A lot of times they'll send out a kid who will drive slowly around the problem group, but they won't get within 150 yards of them in fear of a confrontation gone wrong. I'd like to think the majority of groups would be open and receptive to a friendly reminder to keep up with the pace of play, but who knows these days.

Date 09/21/2023 Course Name Western Lakes GC Gross Score 77 Course Handicap 4 Gross Strokes over/under par 5 Net Score to Par 1 Net Score 73 Net Birdies or better 4 Longest Drive 309 VCT Match Play Designate as Week 3 Match Score Solid round besides the dumb double on hole 17.

Week 3 matchups for the Push Cart Mafia. @Bucky CC & @dback @Clayton & @DonnieGolfs As for some of the scores that have been posted the first two weeks; we'll just leave this handy little odds chart here.

Date 09/11/2023 Course Name Western Lakes GC Gross Score 78 Course Handicap 4 Gross Strokes over/under par 6 Net Score to Par 2 Net Score 74 Net Birdies or better 4 Longest Drive 289 VCT Match Play Designate as Week 2 Match Score Hope my partner has a strong back nine.

Started on hole 17 for a shotgun start event. Not happy about the double-double finish, but overall a decent partner score if I can get some help. Front nine I was on every green in regulation only to two-putt every single time. I guess that's a good problem to have?

Date 09/09/2023 Course Name Western Lakes GC Gross Score 77 Course Handicap 3 Gross Strokes over/under par 5 Net Score to Par 2 Net Score 74 Net Birdies or better 3 Longest Drive 298 VCT Match Play Score Click Here for Week 1 Match Play Score Decent score for match play purposes. Not happy about the three doubles but I guess it's better than being all aboard the bogey train.

Tried to get my week 1 round in last night but we weren't able to finish due to darkness. I have a round scheduled for tomorrow morning so that will be my official score. For Week 2 team Push Cart Mafia will roll out: @Bucky CC & @Clayton @DonnieGolfs & @dback

Thanks everybody. Wish I could say I was doing something fun but it's pretty much all about the kids today. First day of high school for my daughter so that took up the morning. Day time will be a normal work day. Tonight will be picking her up from golf practice before dropping my son off at soccer practice. Fun stuff!