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storm319

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  1. The new tpu AVX or the Tour B RX are probably going to be closest.
  2. I believe that the 4T shafts a physically the same with the only difference being the cosmetics to align with the next TEE release’s color scheme (similar to Ping with the ALTA).
  3. Regular retail of $40 per dozen ($160 for the 4 dozen pack) has remained unchanged from last year, but these are almost always on sale which clouds the actual intended price points (generally 2 for $70 or 4 for $120, the 4 for $99.98 late last year was not the norm). This time of year is not generally a time for sales, but my guess is that DSG is trying to compete with some of the new release buzz from the big OEMs.
  4. I believe the XR stock offering was a made for version of the LZ Blue (lighter, softer, higher torque), so not really sure what would be similar (definitely not anything from the HZRDUS line). Either way, 100% agree that getting fit is better than trying to find something similar to a shaft that may not even be an optimal fit now.
  5. Prices on these sites are highly dependent on demand, available inventory, and age. They have had approximately 3 years of collection for the 2021 model vs 1 year for the 2023 and the demand is generally higher for the current generation. Ultimately the material performance difference probably doesn’t warrant the price difference (granted Titleist has been making the ProV1 lower in both spin/apex over the past few cycles which some are not a fan of).
  6. Exactly. The “test” cycle is way too late to have an impact on the upcoming release (granted it is a fairly inexpensive marketing and customer feedback effort).
  7. In addition to the professional tours, there was doubt as to whether the NCAA and many local/state organizations that host elite amateur competitions were going to adopt the MLR which would have resulted in inconsistent regulation at the intended level. Given that the ruling bodies would not have had full control on where/when the MLR would be adopted (and it ultimately not been adopted in all scenarios that they intended it to be), a universal change was simpler long term (and preferred by the majority of the biggest stakeholders vs permanent bifurcation).
  8. Not the team sport element, but the interactive element between players makes the comparison to golf pointless. No one is saying that golf would cease to exist if the ruling bodies were to bifurcate, but IMHO it would be worse off without a uniform set of regulations (and most sports would be better off with a global set of regulations at least at adult levels). Also, the other non-interactive sports have much clearer lines of separation between different levels of play whereas those lines are blurred in the game of golf (how often do you see amateurs competing in random games in any of the professional sports you mentioned?). Bifurcation adds complexity/cost to an already complex/expensive game and the game is better off under a uniform set of rules (the ruling bodies making changes like this definitely threatens that).
  9. Again, these are all interactive team sports so not really comparable (golf has no direct player interaction and the ball is always stationary when struck). As for baseball bats, it is possible to produce a bat from metal or composite materials that performs similarly to wood (COR limits in baseball are also for safety purposes given the proximity of the pitcher and batter). The reason that the MLB requires wood is for tradition/aesthetics (mainly sound).
  10. Softer = slower, but not necessarily shorter. I would be willing to bet that most of the major OEM multilayer models above 80 compression would not pass the new test conditions. Additionally, limiting the effect of the ball helps to protect against future advancements that could circumvent the goal of the regulation. Ultimately, if a compression limit were an effective solution for limiting distance, the ruling bodies never would have introduced the ODS and maintained it for the past nearly 50 years.
  11. I think you are over exaggerating. The big OEMs are already producing several different models today and the white label factories are constantly shifting production lines to accommodate different customer models (granted they generally maintain a limited number of dimple patterns) and they are able to handle it. R&D targeting on the 2004 ODS revision will likely end sometime in 2027 since the ruling bodies plan to end conformance testing using that methodology in the Fall of 2027 (basically the December 2027 conforming list will remain up until 2030 for recreational play but that will effectively be it within the rules of golf for anything that exceeds the 2028 ODS conditions). As for retooling, unlikely that much will change that doesn’t already change with each new cycle today (most likely molds but keep in mind that those are constantly being replaced). Heck, prior to Callaway’s recent major renovation at their Chicopee plant, they had production equipment that dated back decades that was acquired by Spalding. Again, the majority of their production methods will not change, the goal is just making a less efficient ball (which btw every one of the major OEMs has done in the past).
  12. Your TV example is not a good analogy given that those were technological paradigm shifts which is not the case with golf balls (btw, LCD and LED tvs are the same basic display technology, the main difference is CCFLs vs LEDs for the backlight). While OEMs will likely see increased R&D costs initially due to having parallel targets for a few years (which should level out by the time this is universally adopted), the basic construction/assembly methods will be the same as what we have seen for the past 2+ decades. Basically it shouldn’t be hard to make a ball that conforms to the new test conditions (some balls currently sold at retail would probably pass today), what will be difficult will be maximizing distance for other conditions but that is not much different than what OEMs attempt today.
  13. Sounded more like two old guys doing an improvised podcast not having done any prior research or paid any attention to the topic over the past 5 years.
  14. If you are concerned with maintaining conformance, avoid any sharpening tool. The reality is to make any noticeable difference, you will invariably end up removing some material making the groove larger and risk either exceeding the volume limit or groove gap minimum.
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