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  1. Tony@CIC, funny you mention ordering the Shotscope V3. I have been playing with it for a little over a year and the only real issue I have (not that it is "small") is accuracy. Once I got used to remembering to set up a provisional shot or add a penalty things went pretty smoothly. But I seem to always have to edit locations, ESPECIALLY pin locations; for me this was more frustrating than just seeing the fairway and approach shots off location. Anyway, chose Shotscope because it meant I didn't have to carry my phone in my pocket and it seemed more...seemless. I recently got an offer to get all of the Arccos for free because I own a Ping club so I paid for the Shot Link in hopes the accuracy will be better. Reading this thread I am skeptical. Reading your note, I hope you like the Shotscope. I'd be interested to hear your comparison. Cheers, Scott
  2. This post is GREAT!!! My wife thought I was nuts when I said I would bring clubs with me and it was a go- no go for me. How could any golfer NOT bring a set of clubs when shopping for their next car?
  3. Holy cow, I had this happen this spring to my G400 with the Evenflow Black 60 stiff shaft. The shaft was in my G400 for almost 3 years. I got a replacement and after 3 rounds the same issue occurred. That shaft has been discontinued, but Inwas able to get a 3rd one and that one is holding up, so far. Too weird that this topic popped up now though.
  4. Greg and @discipleofpenick funny I was thinking the other day about this thread and the 'left dash' but I recall disciple liking the softer feel vs. the firmer ball. I had a buddy give me a left dash and didn't feel like it was all that firm/clicky, but that is definitely something that is personal preference; I do lie the feel of the AVX and now you guys have me wondering about whether the distance is carry or roll out. Now I am going to have to get out and see of I can get a comparison going.
  5. Gotcha. Thanks for making it a discussion and not a contestation. Yes, agree, bounce and sole width are not mutual, they can be separated. I like the thin line and sharp leading edge so I can pick the ball off tight lies, or cut through wet turf without bouncing off and thinning or skulking shots, but I do realize that is what works for me, and in most of the conditions I play. Oh God, Callaway and BB are like asking me if I'd want liver and onions or tripe for dinner . I couldn't hit the old BB metals; buck hooked them so bad the ball went left and circled back around and landed 2" to the right of where I originally hit it from. I will, however admit, that I hit the Apex last year and found them to be very playable, looked good at address and felt good on contact. The old Ping Eye 2 was another club I could never feel comfortable behind; guess we could add that to the Executive as a 70s-80s alternative to blades. The I500 was another iron that I found attractive and nice to hit. Thanks again.
  6. Kind of like what dkeonig mentioned about spin rates, it may be that you are losing distance because of spin and the low spin design of the AVX helps out. I see you are a 4 HDCP so I would assume you've already considered that, but since you hadn't mentioned whether spin was a factor... I am not sure how much of a universal fix a ball change is? My driver swing speed is also in the 105 range and I like the feel and distance of the AVX as well, but I don't feel like I have as much control around the green. Then again, maybe I am missing something. Great discussion.
  7. Hmmm, more side spin but less offline with the Ping Forged. Interesting. I know I am typically left of my line with my T20s. I need to hit the lottery and get me a Trackman! Thanks for the data.
  8. You REALLY confused me here. Forgiveness comes from numerous aspects of design, not just "from the sole." I believe the entire 'perimeter weighing' factor contributes overall. Just having a wide sole to help put the weight lower in the club head and possibly move it back provides an opportunity to engineer in better launch characteristics and a "larger sweet spot," but if all it took to have a more forgiving club was a wide sole Nike might still be making clubs. Swing type and conditions play a role in whether a player should consider a wider or thinner sole. A thinner sole has less chance of bouncing off the turf allowing players who hit the ball first to 'pick' the ball cleanly; thick soles may be advantageous where you find fluffy lies or the ball sits up, but God forbid you have wide soles and thin/tight lies. A sweeping swing may do better with a wide sole where there is less chance the sole will 'bounce' and cause thin contact. When I started playing it was pretty hard to find anything but blades (except maybe Spalding's Executive irons; anyone remember those?). I played a set of '86 Titleist blades until the early 2000s, now those heads look so small next to a ball I wonder how we ever hit them pure. The Rescue club was a great development and they are great for many shots, including long shots out of a fairway bunker, but I still cannot get into a thick top line and wide soles; for me they bounce like a saucer sled skidding across the snow causing more skulled than pure shots. But again, that is my preference.
  9. @greggarner the Pro V became the lower spinning and the '1x the higher spinning ball with the 2017 versions. I thought all the 'x' versions followed that but a little reading shows the TP5x is, while high spinning around the green, lower than the straight TP5. You'd think everyone would follow some level of standardization to help the rest of us out but...
  10. Yes it matches that lab, but as noted later in the thread MGS changed the equipment they are testing compression with and the results are more consistent now.
  11. I just read the article this morning on the release and had a discussion about whether the 100 or the 200 would be a better choice, then this pops up. Loved the feel of the AP2 and I played old '86 blades for nearly 2 decades before getting a set of Mizunos and then my current set of TMs. Loved the write up and now really looking forward to reading the testing results. Great work getting this one folks. Good luck to all the applicants, can't wait to see what you have to say!
  12. Shawn welcome back to the game. I can relate as kids and deployments during a military career definitely kept me away from the course for a long stretch. Coming back into golf after being used to Titleist Professional 90s or 100s as the standard for golf balls and watching the Pro's face as he tried to explain to me that golf balls had changed and compression wasn't a reference point anymore must have been very humorous to those around me. So, all of that said, you can see my WITB listing shows some similarities. My G400 driver, which might become a ZX7 soon even though I love my Ping. On the 3w and hybrid I cannot say anything good enough about my M3 and M4 and shaft combos. Both are great, workable clubs. I have a couple of buddies who have been Vokey stalwarts for years, but the recently switched to TM and Mizuno wedges. I went to the T20s from Cleveland RTX3s a couple of years back and I love 'em. Welcome back to the game.
  13. goaliewales14, I moved from Clevelands a couple of years ago now to Mizuno T-20s and I haven't looked back. BUT, I really like the numbers on the Ping forged. Especially the side spin #. What strikes me funny is that you have 3-5x more side spin on the other wedges (from the Ping forged), but the dispersion is not all that much wider; granted travel distance on a 50 year shot doesn't leave much time to go off-line; would like to see the sidespin and off-line numbers for the 80 yard shots. All that said, I agree, I love my T-20s and it would be interesting to see those compared with your ES21s as well. Thanks for the data. Cheers
  14. Some interesting commentary here. We have had some good discussion on such situations at courses up here. I blew a match this weekend by playing overly aggressive instead of playing it safe, after cutting two shots earlier with the same club. In my opinion, what I FAILED to consider was not that I was being aggressive vs. conservative/safe, but that I had already cut two shots with that club and that it was safer to be left even of I did "pull" the shot or hit it straight vice serious trouble if (inevitably) I did cut it again. So, failing to set up left of the target I opened myself up to that right side, again, and all of the trouble there. All of that said to lead to this; I haven't seen (maybe I missed it) anyone recommend teeing up on the right side of the tee box and setting up to play your normal shot. A very consistent, solid single digit player I knew often told me to always set up on the side where the trouble is (water on the right, set-up on the right, trees on the left, set-up on the left). The tee box isn't in the pic so it is hard to evaluate how much room you might have. I did notice it has been discussed that a 50-yard wide target is actually pretty large; that considered, setting up on the right does two things for you, it improves your likeliness of not being in that trouble right, and it gives you a line (more room) that sets upto avoid the tree on the right, even if you do pull (a bit) vs. your normal cut. The other recommendation/advice I don't see is something that I try to remember, in all cases, 'when there are hazards that are meant to draw your attention, pay attention not to the hazards, but to the place you want your shot to end up; see the target not the problems around it.' All too often when we focus on the problem. Doing so, we set ourselves up to end up IN the problem area because A) that is where we focus, and B) the doubt we will mess up creeps in and makes us change something, which causes us to mess up, instead of executing smoothly and correctly. This game is 90% mental. I don't see your hybrid shot shape and consistency discussed. What about, as asked, the difference in your driving and approach percentages? Those should be considered. With your shot shape and distance I think I would be most concerned with getting into the trees at ~220 on the right, but again, I would think your best percentage approach would be to tee up on the right and set up/line up just right of that tree short left (again, I cannot see the tee box so I am not sure how much room you have to work with or if you have a already started on the right side). Option A) Tee it up on the left side, line up right of the tree you are concerned with to the left, focus on the area you want to land it, hit the 100-110 approach shot to 5 feet and make the birdie. Interesting discussion; let us know what worked and what didn't? Cheers
  15. I can't wait to see the MGS review or test opportunities for this new Voice Caddie rangefinder WITH GPS. The green contour is really intriguing.
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