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Concur with this. That was one of the things I thought about when addressing the Dashboard, but overlooked when covering the rest of the aspects. Good catch.

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Fresh caught this afternoon.

That is a heck of a breakfast. You must have a SERIOUS day ahead of you.

Great. Now I have to go see if I want to get one. Every time you guys tell me something I am looking at actually works it cost me money!

I got into the area at the end of last week and I was supposed to reach out to arrange some rounds but life got away from me and here we are. Played a round at Allendale Tuesday and Green Valley CC on Wednesday. Both courses are in great condition. If you are around either one I recommend them. Allendale's greens are deceivingly myopic. They look like they are simple because they only slide front to back to back to front with few swales and undulations, but the line from side hill putts and grain will give you a headache and make you want to chuck your putter into a pond. Good luck not running over the green on the par 4 # 13, not matter how short you try to hit and run your approach shot. And if you try to cu the corner, keep your shot HIGH and pray you don't catch a tree as you (hopefully) cross back into the fairway. Green Valley plays with wind and some of the off line shots will put you in positions that look easy, until you try to line up a recovery. The par 3 #11 plays over 200 from the whites and you need every yard. If you miss the green, good luck keeping the ball from stopping short, running past, or coming back at you off the green; if you are on the green, same notes apply. We finally called it after #14 due to rain (I was +1 for the round and REALLY was hoping it was going to let up long enough to finish). One of the things I like about NE golf is that the green hold here. At least at these and other area course I play when I am here. I will say that it can also frustrate you. At GV on par 3 #5 (165 to pin) I had an 8-iron back up 15 feet and on par 3 #12 (125 to pin) I had a 50 degree wedge drop directly behind the pin and only come back 18 inches . Anyway, great courses. I always look forward to my annual visits to play courses in the area. Maybe one time I will be aware enough to post ahead of time, like I planned to this year, and we can set something up for a group of MGS followers. Look for the bag Best wishes for good rounds and good weather to all!

Slow play. Man if you can figure out how to fix this one bottle it and charge high prices. For large events they station people on the course to give yellow and red cards. Part of the solution is people telling other players to get moving. I have been in THAT GROUP who has guys lose a ball on 3 or 4 holes in a row; we have even had multiple guys lose a ball on the same hole, but never at the same shot so that just drags play speed down. Not sure what you can do in this situations other than and some more.

Sorry I am getting into this so late. I have been playing with APT for a couple of years (at least ... 3). I played in the Nationals in Nashville in 2022, and again in last year in Myrtle Beach. I am looking forward to playing the open Nationals and Senior Nationals this year. I have played in multiple "elevated" and "majors" in several states and things are pretty well put together. You can play in your chapter and are welcome in other chapters for local and elevated tournaments. The players manual is available from the main web page; https://amateurplayerstour.com on top right corner next to "Pro Shop" click the 3 lines and then "Resources" and the drop down there will take you to the manual. https://amateurplayerstour.com/member-manual/ The Chapter owners really work hard to put on quality events, in my experience. Some chapters are better stocked and have better participation than others. I can tell you that all the owners work together to help struggling areas improve. I can also tell you that putting these things on is arduous and no one is retiring on chapter ownership. Owners show up early to set-up, and stay late to make sure scores are tallied and prizes are doled out. At elevated events (where people come in from all over, adjacent chapter regions, or are just increased in points and prize $$) the chapter owners work even harder to support the additional players. At National level events, where you have over 100 participants, the coordinators are often on-site before daylight breaks and after the sun sets. I have played with several other organizations and continue to play with APT. As a peripheral benefit, I have made several friendships playing local and national events that I would not have had the privilege of having had I not engaged with APT. Moving over to the slightly controversial side Now that I have talked to the APT in general, let me address the "sand bagger" issue. I played with a couple of other organizations where I saw this issue (sand baggers) and management failed to/would NOT address it. Let's face it, we are paying a premium in these "tours" and playing for $$; sand baggers should be a no tolerance policy. Since I have been playing with APT I have been pleased with what I have seen related to this issue and response to it. Do people have "exceptional rounds"? ABSOLUTELY. APT has a policy to review and deal with it. AND, they DO. It is also GREAT to see someone have an exceptional round. It is encouraging for all of us. And unfortunately, it is often followed by, and or preceded by, a normal round or an even worse one. All that aside, @ERLBOT I hear you and PLEASE read this disclaimer BEFORE you read the rest of my comments, I am NOT questioning your assertion or experience, trying to diminish your perception, or attempting to poke you in the eye by stating my experience. My next couple of statements are NOT a personal attack on you, your experience, or your post; it is an assertion my from experience and from many hours discussing this specific issue with the national and chapter owners (who are VERY accommodating and open to discussion with members). They even have a live podcast on Thursday night where they review events and answer questions and concerns from members (and I keep missing the live cast ) All that stated to fend off any perception of a personal attack in defense of anyone (APT or otherwise), I am going to jump right in at risk of being perceived as a d**k. Please understand that I ALSO HATE THAT STUFF (sand baggers and the failure to address them) and I am on your side here! - The board that runs the APT has a Handicap Committee that reviews EVERYONE's play. They review your tournament play if you are playing for US Am Tour, Golf Week, VGA, FLSGA, HSGA, TXSGA, State of Confusion State Golf Assn, AND your GHIN to make sure: A. Players are posting rounds outside APT play, B. Posted scores synch with how players perform at APT tournaments. If you are posting mid-70s tournament rounds for XX State Golf Assn, but posting high-80s USGA GHIN rounds and you show up to an APT tournament expecting to be in Div 3 (8.5-13.4 HCP) and clean house shooting 4 over for the weekend they will stomp that **** out. I have witnessed it and other members have discussed their experiences seeing players get banned from APT for trying to sand bag at APT events. Can you have individuals sneak through? Well... life does happen and nothing is perfect. But I will tell you that the board works hard to keep it from occurring in this group; and that is a nationwide effort. That all said, they are diligent and focused in preventing it, BUT the board and management human are they try to be fair! I will include excerpts from the member manual here as explanation of the process (but you can access the manual yourself for full understanding of policies): EXCEPTIONAL ROUND PROMOTION If a member shoots a round that is 6 or more strokes below their division range, the Handicap Committee reserves the right to re-classify the member into the next division. TOURNAMENT INDEX REVIEW If a member fails to post a score within the last 90 days, the Handicap Committee reserves the right to review that members APT Tournament Index, using more recent data (USGA Handicap, Other Tournament Playing History, etc.) to place the member in the proper division based on their recent playing history (up or down). HANDICAP COMMITTEE The Handicap Committee is made up of 3 Chapter Owners and 2 Player Representatives. If a player has a question for the handicap committee, please e-mail handicaps@aptgolf.org. UNVALIDATED PLAYERS – OUT OF DIVISION SCORES In the interest of protecting the integrity of any Tour Event, the Tournament Committee shall have the discretion to act during a Tour Event to disqualify an unvalidated player if he/she posts a single round score that is: More than four (4) strokes (Divisions 2/3) or five (5) strokes (Divisions 4/5) below their division cut off (based on course index adjustment for course slope and rating); OR More than three (3) strokes below their closest competitor within the division. ON THIS ONE, they review everything. If you have been playing with the tour for a while they have data to pull from and can see trends etc. Gentlemen, EVERY statement here was meant to be educational and informative from my experience, NOTHING was intended to break anyone's balls or poke at anyone individual's experience or perception; we are all allowed our own experience and opinion. I am NOT judging your perspective or telling you that you are wrong and I am right. I have had nothing but good experience and would love to see more players in my local chapter events and at when I travel. The majority of those I have met, and their families who often come with them to national events, are great, down to earth, normal folks from all walks of life and all demographics. Somewhat like conversing here on MGS and setting up rounds when you travel with people you correspond with, I can travel and find a round of golf in many places because of the people I have met playing with APT. I HAVE NO FINANCIAL INTEREST IN APT. I do NOT get anything from APT for expressing my experience. This is MY experience and MY experience only. Try it out. Worst case scenario you got to play golf. Cheers gentlemen (and ladies if any of you are reading)

One of the benefits I have found of this program is the flexibility I have with travel and available equipment. I have not messed around with substituting certain exercises as much as I probably should have; since I know many subs I have kind of worked my own way through it (e.g. dumbbell inclined press vs. barbell press; split squat with dumbbells to ground vs. split squat to pins with barbell). The stretching and warm up, in my opinion, are invaluable. I have very little to say that is not positive about the program or adaptability. I am VERY interested in the Velocity program, but I realize that there is probably not as much flexibility as the In Season routine. Thanks everyone for the updates and information on your progress. Speaking of flexibility, sticking with the warm-up and mobility routines benefit in two ways, 1. if you scheduled it it puts you on a repeating regimen that leads to 2, improvement in range of motion and comfort in the swing. When I am stretched out and loose my swing flows; when I am tight and flexibility is an issue, whether being sore and worked form the gym, or tight from sitting at a desk all day, the swing does NOT flow. I can tell you that my hamstrings are not what they were in my 20s, BUT they are better than they were before I started the program. AS mentioned before, I have measurably improved range in my left shoulder; again, not what it was in my 20s, but injuries and surgeries will do that to a body. My Chiropractor is a sports medicine guy, martial arts, triathlons, etc. and he had me on a routine that was helping, until I let it slide. When I showed him the warm-up and mobility programs he was impressed with some of the moves and only had a couple of points of feedback related to my situation (including the expected, what happened to the routine I gave you ). I add a couple of moves but I use at least the 12 minute warm-up prior to pretty much every round and I do believe it helps.

I'm in. Should be interesting.

With my V3, the first version I had, I saw some issues with a club not registering or missed shots, but Ai never saw practice swings causing an issue. The watch never seems register unless contact is made. My first X5 started having issues identifying clubs and missing shots. I realized that the watch wasn't picking up clubs and would have to 'tape the buttons on the watch several times to register a club, but then even that stopped working. I contacted customer support and learned about the RFID sensor being in the band and the replaced the whole watch. If you are seeing consistent issues with club identification and missed shots you may want to reach out to CS. Shot Scope CS is great in all my experiences. From general questions and correcting course information to replacing my failed X5. Cheers all.

I came back in today starting with Phase 3 workout B. The left lat is still a bit sore. But I think the workout was easy enough that I didn't over do it. I'll see the next one. The one challenge that I added to my week was that hornet/wasp wrestling over the weekend made gripping anything a bit of a challenge Can anybody tell which one is the "normal" size hand?

Interesting. I have seen pretty much the same performance throughout areas and rounds. There is a very rare occasion where I come back in after 18 and have above 30% remaining. One time I had 38% and was not able to make it through another round that day (makes sense since >50% was used on the first round). Playing in the Pacific Northwest between November and May and Florida during the same time frame I really didn't notice any difference in battery performance in either location. I think the best number I have seen after 18 holes is 43% or 48%. I may have to start tracking that data. I wonder if there is a "Stroke Gained" measurement for Battery Life percentage remaining between handicap zones Folks please understand, I realize the percentage of golfers that will play 36 holes on one given day probably pretty small, but the idea is that you can have a bit extra in the tank for when the watch turns on because the button got bumped, or the "UH-OH! Forgot to charge last night. But at least I can still get that second weekend round in because I know the battery has extra in it." I play in a few tournaments annually that are same day, 36-hole events. The PAT was one event where it would have been nice if the watch had made it all 36-holes. The other side of it goes back to what I mentioned earlier and I'll call reserve power. I went down to play a tournament on an unfamiliar course. I arrived 2-hours early and turned the watch on, in watch mode, when I got there while I was pitching, putting, and warming up (again, 2-hours before a tournament, not 4 hours or the night before) the watch was done before #18 (I think it made it through 15 holes). Consequently, I never turn the watch on, in any mode, before getting ready to tee off. What kind of kills me about that is that my Fenix 3, and Fenix 6 could go through an IM race and still have days of batter life left for not all that much of a size difference (well, okay maybe the Fenix are a tad bit larger). The point is, that I can golf multiple rounds with my Fenix 6, run every day in the same week, and record a couple of HIIT workouts before I need to charge it. Yes, the Fenix is larger and heavier, but It seems to me that there is a balance between the two that would be attractive to everyone who uses it; I can put ONE watch on when I leave the house, activate it for the round, upload the data, and come back home after dinner before having to put it on the charger. I guess the silver lining is that when I get home really late, with brew on my breath, I can honestly say, "But honey, how was I supposed to know it was getting so late? Look. My watch died."

Condolences and many preyers to you and your family.

I had to replace my first X5 just about a year after getting it. The sensors in the band failed. SS customer service was OUTSTANDING. I wrote the review up earlier in the ShotScope user thread. I'd have to look back, but I think I had the replacement in under a week. They were great helping me trouble shoot it and in the end, said, send it back and we will send you a replacement. Before that discussion I didn't realize the button sensor was in the watch band, rather than in the watch; I kind of wondered why they didn't send a replacement band, but A. they were great with the replacement, and B. now I know why we cannot just buy any old band and use it with this watch.