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Dig it, totally a case of what works for you. I’m around a 110-115 driver speed, and upper 90s on irons, which makes me lose those compression yards in softer balls versus tour balls. Will still snag a sleeve to give a run at the price point, but with tempered expectations haha.

Might be worth scoring a sleeve of the Gamers and seeing the numbers both on a monitor and on the scorecard. Will play whatever when that scorecard number keeps dropping!

I hit both the T100 and T200 when getting fitted for my new bag, the dispersion on them both were higher than what I was getting from the Mav Pros. Distance and overall spin were comparable though, could have made them work, but not immediate best fit.

Yeah, but if the USGA can't force course conditions like they do at the US Open, then they are going to legislate it out in another fashion. Halting progress for the sake of halting progress seems like a bad business to be in. Embrace the athleticism that today's players have, not fight against it.

I had the opposite effect from you - I couldn't get any distance out of the various non-tour balls I played (Maxfli Tour namely) from woods/irons, but didn't mind the performance around the greens as I'm not much of a check up guy, more controlled bump and run. Switched to the MTB-X and immediately gained yards, and have adapted to the spins around the green. Almost like there's infinite ways to play the game.

I think it'll be interesting to see how they test out compared to others in the value + long ball category. Hopefully is in the next Most Wanted ball test!

I'm fully with you, I just think it's very strange that the two governing bodies appear to be at fundamental odds with each other - one wanting to dial back the distance and bring more challenge into the game, and the other wanting more distance and super low scores because, to take their slogan, "These guys are good". I think there is a middle ground that satisfies both parties, and I wish the USGA and PGA would explore that and make it the norm. It shouldn't be 4 majors out of the year that amp up the rigor, and a bunch of other events where -15 to -20 is a top 10 score.

I liked the idea on the pod of the different progression in the rough - rather than a first/second cut based on distance from fairway, longest rough out where the bombers hit, and shorter rough where someone would have had to club down or just isn’t as long. That combined with longer grass and/or softer fairways, would help combat any ”distance problem”. But messing with equipment innovation isn’t the way to do it.

Yeah, despite the majority of my WITB, always liked Titleist as a brand. Just wish I would have gotten better numbers out of them!

3 wood is one of my favorite clubs in the bag, just something I can consistently put 250 down the pipe. I've had the most success, and seen friends in my group have the most success, when they stop thinking about hitting it like a wood. Lots of people go for the driver-esque swing, rather than a sweeping to mild trapping motion in the downswing, and they top it combined with overswing, which spray it out everywhere. My tips is always to move it back towards the middle of your stance, rather than out front, and drop the trailing elbow to make sure you are getting down into the ball.

Yeah, this is fully a developmental club - allow the R&D guys to go wild and play with whatever materials/shapes/etc. they can, and hope to sell some sets to those who can afford it. Eventually they'll get the feedback they need on what works and what doesn't, then we'll see maybe an idea trickle into the normal sets in 4 or so years. I dig Titleist pushing the envelope.

If that’s the putter in their gamer bag and is looking to gamble, then that’s the one they feel most confident in holing putts. I feel like an echo in here, but wouldn’t be betting against someone I don’t know or at least can’t verify their skill level from a handicap.

Totally a feel based putter would be my preference, but from there, can go with almost anything. I’d say one additional thing for me is a single material face - no inserts or things like that. Soured on those thanks to the Odyssey Works putters and the mesh face product coming undone and Callaway not doing anything to fix it. One poor experience pushed me to single material faces for the rest of my life.

I played with them in the 50s and constant drizzle a couple weeks back, no grip issues that round. One round sample size, but enough for me to consider ditching them.

The paint fill on the P790s is a really nice touch! Need to get that putter regripped to something red and white and you’ll have that color scheme through your whole bag.

Yeah, really was based what was getting me the best stats as we tuned up each club. I hit Taylormade, Titleist, Ping, and Mizuno, but got the best results from the Mav SubZero and Mav Pros.

I want one!

What was your process on restoring these? I do limited restoration work on vintage razors, and wondering if it’s similar enough that I could do putters too.

I missed that (or posted before seeing the comments) but already looking forward to next Wednesday’s email!

If weight was the same, then mass would be the same - weight is just mass times gravitational pull. However, the USGA provides an upper limit on weight (1.620 oz), so Bridgestone may be closer to that upper limit than Taylormade based on size if densities were the same. The raw stats point towards what you were thinking in the original post - better wind performance based on height of shot, and lower spin would also reduce the impact of wind on fade/draw shots.

Smaller balls would have less mass, so in theory it would have less drag (assuming similar dimple patterns), but slightly less spin and carry as the force generated on the larger ball is slightly greater at the same swing speed. Mind you, we are talking fractional differences. This bears out in the latest Most Wanted golf ball when comparing these two specific examples. - TP5: Avg backspin of 2,294 rpm (Driver); avg height of 116; avg carry of 279.06 - BXS: Avg backspin of 2,367, avg height of 117; avg carry if 281.95

Just barely more expensive than Clear balls! Haha

Ball Lab is easily becoming my favorite bit of analysis that MGS puts out. The detail Tony does with this work is phenomenal, and combined with the raw stats from the Most Wanted list, every player should be able to find the best ball that meets their preferences. That said, Snell MTB-X next please!

For sure, now a firm believer that fitting should happen at pretty much any level if you have a consistent swing. People are leaving distance and/or accuracy on the table by going off the rack.

For those that have built out a sim in a basement, what are the dimensions in the space you use? Been trying to figure out if I can do it in mine or if I'm out of luck with this house.