fourwaymiss

@skraeling I too took a couple of months off, thought I hurt my left elbow, but it turns out the tendons connect to the hand & I've developed Dupuytren Contracture.  
I'm still using The Stack, with weights anywhere from 120 to 195 grams. The one thing I do every day are a lot of the stretching exercises.  I've incorporated 2-3 of the stretches prior to playing a round of golf and it's great.  Dr. MacKenzie developed some good stretches & exercises.  I've seen a slight increase in my swing speed since using The Stack and keeping limber. 
The Stack Putting is interesting. I like the 18 holes circuit training. It's better than just putting ball after ball.  The Stack gives you purpose.  Also, it's about making time to practice, that's been the challenge.  
@fourwaymiss great advice about the grip, thanks!!

Ive taken a couple months off of training I was playing enough and doing a bunch of other really physical labor and just didnt have the gas left to train on top of that.
welp golf league has ended and we are starting to head towards our off season so will need to pick it back up.  I did lose speed towards the end of my league but thats probably just fatigue plus me sorting my damn swing out that went wonky.
probably will need to do at least 3-4 return to forms as I was almost towards the end of program 2 for me.

I hear ya. I'm based in Singapore now, where it feels like July/August in Houston all year round. Since it's like this all year, I guess my body's acclimatized and my hands don't get as slick as they used to when I first arrived. 
 
Just go with whatever you feel most comfortable with for the Stack! You're gonna be swinging for the fences every time, so you gotta trust that grip.

The factory grip seems to wear faster than a normal grip.
Since it's a training tool, I went with a normal Crossline (that style is my typical grip). I had considered putting my gamers on, but the guy at the shop advised against it, since the pressure I'm putting on it with the max effort swings is NOT normal and it would wear out the gamers faster.
So if you're normally a cord person, go for it! But I would worry about ripping my hands apart with full cord. 🫣

I hear ya. I'm based in Singapore now, where it feels like July/August in Houston all year round. Since it's like this all year, I guess my body's acclimatized and my hands don't get as slick as they used to when I first arrived. 
 
Just go with whatever you feel most comfortable with for the Stack! You're gonna be swinging for the fences every time, so you gotta trust that grip.

The factory grip seems to wear faster than a normal grip.
Since it's a training tool, I went with a normal Crossline (that style is my typical grip). I had considered putting my gamers on, but the guy at the shop advised against it, since the pressure I'm putting on it with the max effort swings is NOT normal and it would wear out the gamers faster.
So if you're normally a cord person, go for it! But I would worry about ripping my hands apart with full cord. 🫣

TaylorMade has introduced three new products designed to elevate your golf game: the P·770 Irons, P·7CB Irons, and the Hi-Toe 4 Wedge. We’re looking for six golfers—two for each product—to test, review, and keep these clubs. This is your chance to see if TaylorMade’s claims hold up when these clubs are put to the test by real golfers like you!
What you’ll be testing
TaylorMade P·770 Irons: These irons are crafted for golfers who desire a blend of distance and forgiveness within a compact design. The hollow body construction with SpeedFoam Air aims to combine power with precision, while also providing a soft feel on impact. They’re said to be perfect for those who want to shape their shots without compromising on distance.
TaylorMade P·7CB Irons: Aimed at golfers who value precision, these cavity-back irons blend a traditional look with modern engineering. They are built to deliver high levels of control and feedback, allowing for a variety of shot shapes. This should make them a top choice for those who prioritize accuracy and feel.
TaylorMade Hi-Toe 4 Wedge: This wedge is designed for versatility in short-game scenarios. Featuring full-face grooves and a high-toe design, it’s engineered to enhance spin and control, especially when executing open-faced shots. It’s intended to perform well in a range of conditions and lies, making it a go-to option for short-game enthusiasts.

Please welcome and congratulate our testers!
P-770 - @Indy_Oz @LeakyValve 
P-7CB - @Shapotomous @Byrnzee 
Hi-Toe 4 Wedges - @Flanpro @jaz29

Congratulations, testers! 
I had a bad experience with these balls in my tropical environment here. I bought a box for myself and my buddy back in 2019, just before covid lockdowns started. Long story short, it was almost 2 years before we could play again. And in those 2 years, the matte covering oxidised and turned into this weird sticky goo that was really hard to wash off my hands and clothes and stuff. That turned me off these matte coloured balls, even though I love how easy it is to spot them on the course. 
Look forward to hearing the testers feedback on these balls!

Haven't done the next official write up section of the review (want to have a couple rounds under my belt with them) but I played a round last Friday with these. Even though I played terrible (no fault of the ball), I really like them. Here's a quick rundown of what I found...
I found no loss of distance and was pretty impressed with the spin around the greens I played 18 holes and didn't lose any golf balls which is very rare for me...I played red on the front 9 and orange on the back 9. I usually play Srixon soft feels, Srixon Divides and Callaway Supersoft but these ones really seemed to stand out in the grass. The triple alignment lines really seemed to help. I only 3 putted one time (usually I'm around 4-5 per round) and there were about 4 putts that were within 2" of going in from 15'+ away.

Date 08/23/2024 Course Name Amverton Cove Golf Resort Gross Score 89 Course Rating 69.7 Course Slope 121 Gross Strokes over/under par 17 Birdies or better 2 Longest Drive 232 First game while overseas for work! I have a second set (my previous 'generation' of irons, and I think 2 or 3 previous generations for my driver) that I keep over here so that I don't need to lug an entire bag back and forth. Can I just say that I totally remember why I upgraded? 😂
Amverton Cove is a nice little layout about 1 hour outside of metro Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia. It's near the western coast, close to Port Klang. Running at about 5800m (6380y) from the tips, it makes up for the shortfall with LOTS OF WATER. 🌊 I think I counted 14 times times where I was standing on the tee box and my new friends said, "There's water on the left.... Oh and also the right." 🤦‍♂️
The thrice demoted driver was not performing (are you surprised?) and I struggled to keep my tee shots in the short grass. The irons weren't doing any better and I was either too short or too long. (Hence my oh-so-appropriate forum handle.) The only thing that kept my score from ballooning out of control were the wedges and the putter. Nothing like gaining momentum after sinking a 4-footer to save bogey! 💪
Anyway, all was redeemed when I chipped in on the 13th from 14-ft for the lone birdie in the group today! (It only takes 1 good shot to bring us back for more punishment!)
Must go explore other courses in the metro KL area now!
 

MyGolfSpy Forum Guide: How To Be A Tester
As promised I wanted to do an update for our Want To Be A Tester Thread. We take pride in our transparency and member testing platform. 2023 was an incredible season and it continues to provide amazing opportunities to all of our members. 
For those new to the Forum let me break down the keys to becoming a Forum Tester and how to increase your chances at being selected. (I will break down the why afterwards)
It should also be noted that we as staff view member testing opportunities as a way to give back to the members who have contributed so much to our community. It should also be noted that these reviews are a lot of work and take a lot of time to commit to. 
All Forum Members selected for testing must have a profile photo. This is our most basic rule, but the bottom line is no profile photo = no selection. 
Recent Activity - We want to see and have members who are actively engaged in the community. This does not necessarily mean posting everyday 10 plus times a day. But a steady history or pattern of activity is a must. 
Posting an unofficial review. This is not a must, but helps give us an idea for your writing style and overall ability and completing a thorough review for us. 
These are 3 simple, yet very effective ways to being noticed by the Forum Staff and having your name stand out as we go through the tester selection process. 
Now as to why we look for those previous 3 areas of criteria. 
Photos and media content are essential for testing. While some people are good writers, a bunch of text can be a tough slog to read through. We want to see creative photos and media that highlight the product. If someone cannot even bother to post a profile photo it gives us little confidence they could do any photos in a review. 
Photos and media are becoming ever more important for our reviews, especially with our Forum Recap Articles gaining further recognition and popularity with OEMs and MyGolfSpy readers. Good, high quality photos which highlight and feature the product are essential. 
Recent Activity is also extremely important. This shows us reliability to post consistently and take part in conversation throughout the testing period, as well as after the testing period. Being able to see that history gives us added confidence in our selection. Now when I say history I do not mean years of posting. It will be shown a little later in this post, but we actively try to get new people involved. 
Posting an unofficial review is pretty self explanatory, but for us when we are giving out thousands of dollars worth of equipment we want to have a level of confidence in who we are selecting. 
So is that all we look at when selecting testers? No, definitely not. 
The other things we look at and take note of are as follows. 
Post to Reaction Ratio: This is a simple metric, but gives us a slight idea of the value contributions to the community. However posting in the Good Morning Thread is a bit of a cheat code for that. 
Donor Status: For those that have, but don’t have the tag please let one of the staff members know and we can add that for you. While not a deal breaker one way or another, it can be used as a tie breaker. 
OEM requests: This one you can’t really know about ahead of time. However as these companies are providing equipment for free they are within their rights to ask for certain handicaps, situations, swing speeds, geographic regions and more. These questions are asked in the signup form. 
For those with lower post counts we can see login dates to see that someone is visiting the site. Maybe you are someone who loves reading the forum, but are hesitant to post that much or feel as though you do not have a lot to contribute. I ensure that you do have a lot to contribute no matter who you are, but at least this allows us to see that someone is taking an active interest in the forum. 
For those that have tested before. Previous review grades and comments are taken into account. More on that below. 
How long do I have to be a Forum Member before I am considered for Testing?
A week? A month? Longer? I was a member for 2 years before I was selected for my first testing opportunity. However it took me a year to really get involved. There is no magic number for how long it takes to be a tester. Simply put we want to select members who are active contributors within our community. That doesn’t have to mean a long history of posts. 
We also actively try our best to give at least one new tester in on every testing opportunity that happens. In 2023 this happened in nearly every test. 
What else can help me become a tester?
These are small things and are not requirements, but help with us getting to know you a little more or at the very least recognize your forum name. 
Follow us on our social platforms - The Forum has accounts on Instagram and Twitter… or X. 
Join our Community Call: Every Thursday we host a Community Call for our members to have general chit chat and sometimes Live Q&A with different golf companies or people. These are a great way for a member to get to know the staff, ask questions and for us to get to know you a little better. Importantly you don’t have to have your camera or mic on, but can simply sit back and listen or type questions in the chat. It is a great way to quickly get involved and see what our community is all about. 
What are the other rules or guidelines to Member Testing?
Members generally only get one opportunity to test each season. Meaning if you are selected for a set of irons it is unlikely you will be selected for another test during the season. There are some exceptions, however we have a lot of great members and want to spread the opportunities around as best we can. 
Smaller tests such as golf balls, gloves, grips and that sort of thing do leave you eligible for other tests later in the season, however members will only be allowed to be involved in one review at a time. Basically no testing two items at once. 
For our testing opportunities like Cobra Challenge and full bag opportunities a member can only take part in these once. Period. These are amazing opportunities and of course a lot of fun and work, but we have too many incredible members to give these to any member multiple times. 
I mention these previous points to highlight a greater point. Please only register or sign up for the testing opportunities you are really excited about and if you are currently testing please do not sign up for other testing opportunities. To be frank it looks greedy and like you are only here for free stuff. 
Are there certain things that would make me ineligible for a testing opportunity?
Outside of not having a profile photo, it should go without saying but all testers must be members of the forum. To that end you must also be a member in good standing. This means no current warnings on your account. 
Another factor that comes into play are poor previous review scores. I will put this bluntly, if a tester have gone mia on a testing opportunity in the past or been a difficult tester missing deadlines, not providing a review or come close to meeting the deadlines. We have very little reason to consider that person for any future review opportunities. We have too many deserving members to go back to that well or take that risk. 
Geo Restrictions are the other factor. It should be highlighted and noted that we encourage all testing opportunities to be eligible for all our members, however some OEMs have certain restrictions and in the end it is their call. I am a lefty and live outside the US so I am in your corner, but we are also not going to deny an opportunity if is just US only. Another factor in this is over 90% of the community is US and Canada based. Getting a larger portion of outside NA members will help increase are chances of getting more worldwide testing. 
I have been selected as a tester, now what?
Your lead Forum Staff Member will guide you throughout the process. If there is a fitting involved or any other requirements they will facilitate those and ensure that everything is run smoothly. 
Most importantly, carefully read all the instructions and documents provided. There is a lot to go over and missing key points can cause you to get behind or miss important deadlines. 
The biggest thing is ask questions if you have them! The forum staff are here to help and work with all the testers throughout the process. 
What Happens After Testing?
Even after an official test is completed it is highly encouraged that testers continue to take part in discussion. There may still be questions and may still activity on the thread which you should engage in. We love seeing ongoing and longer term updates as it helps anyone considering buying the product have a longer term view of how the product performs. 
Your Lead Forum Staff Member will then grade your review and participation and you will be given a survey to fill out. After these have been completed you will get your official tester badge!
Technically speaking you are now eligible to enter in for more testing opportunities, however as we said above for the most part a member will only get to take part in 1 tester per season. Again I repeat it is why anyone should only sign up for the products they are truly interested in. 
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FAQ
I never get picked! Why don't I ever get picked?
I hear you, but have you done most of the above? Have you provided worthwhile contributions to the forum? Do you have a profile photo? The answers are all above and we lay out the process pretty clear. The rest is up to you. That being said posting in the TESTERS WANTED pages does not count towards your post count. Also the pick me pick me type posts don't really fly with us. Post them as you like or if you like, but again we want to see members adding value to the forum. Those posts are not. 
What happens if I get sick or injured during testing?
Look this is a lot of work, but at the end of the day we understand things in life happen. TELL THE FORUM STAFF! We can make adjustments and arrange dates to work with everyone's schedule. However you have to tell us first!
I don't have social media accounts, does that mean I can't be a tester?
This is not a requirement for us. It is nice when the forum gets mentioned and a member is able to bring attention to the forum via social channels, but not a requirement. Good photos however are and with phones today there is little reason why anyone wouldn't be able to take a decent photo. 
Why don't we know what tests are coming so we can wait to sign up for the ones we really want and not risk getting picked for one we don't really love?
We build our schedule out starting about now, however it takes time and things move around so there are no guarantees on when a test will be posted or moved. Posting our schedule to everyone also wouldn't be fair to the smaller tests or some of the lesser known brands which come to testing. We want excitement for every test and mystery in whats to come. If you aren't excited about the product up for testing, don't sign up. 
I was picked and the product just didn't work for me. What now?
First I hope that the person enjoyed the review and was able to provide a good thorough and honest review. If it doesn't work, so be it! That being said we do not allow for any reason a member to sell their testing equipment for at least 2 product cycles. If it doesn't work for you, then pass it along to another member and let them try it. This happened several times this season with various products and members were able to get more testing opportunities. Pay it forward!
But seriously, I have been here for X amount of years and still never get picked. 
Yeah I bring this up again because you would not believe the emails we get. We picked a lot of testers this year, if a longer term member hasn't been picked the basics of is the timing wasn't right or the activity level just wasn't there. There are some tests we feel some testers would be great for and others not as great, we have thousands of applications and have to pick 4-6, it isn't easy and not a ton of fun. If your name hasn't been called there are some gaps in the above material. 
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I hope all of you have found this beneficial and productive to go through. The forum staff spend a lot of time going through all the applicants and reviews and so much more. It is not an easy task and we take pride in the selections we make. The testers that don't live up to expectations well that is tough for us and not a great look on us, the forum and this community. Therefore we take a good amount of time and effort to hand pick each tester. There were some testers this year that under performed to a level that they will not be partaking in testing moving forward. On a good note there were a ton of excellent testers and reviews which we are all very proud of. 
If you have questions please just ask! If you have concerns or want to know more then please reach out to one of the forum staff members. The other thread is going to be locked and this will be the main thread moving forward. There will also be subsequent larger drops of information here for all to view as we aim to be as transparent as possible with testing and make sure that anyone who really wants to be a tester will have that chance and ability to be. 
Thank you all for reading!
 

Date 08/24/2024 Course Name Glenmore Heritage Gross Score 75 Course Rating 72 Course Slope 139 Gross Strokes over/under par 3 Birdies or better 8 Longest Drive 241 Wow....what a game today....think I like the firmer fairways as the heat kicks in here...
3 Scr birds and 5 nett...
 
Not sure I can play any better...but....I'll take it while I can...you all know how this game kicks you in the backside...

That picture looks similar to 18 at TPC Stadium Course at Sawgrass.

Date 08/23/2024 Course Name Amverton Cove Golf Resort Gross Score 89 Course Rating 69.7 Course Slope 121 Gross Strokes over/under par 17 Birdies or better 2 Longest Drive 232 First game while overseas for work! I have a second set (my previous 'generation' of irons, and I think 2 or 3 previous generations for my driver) that I keep over here so that I don't need to lug an entire bag back and forth. Can I just say that I totally remember why I upgraded? 😂
Amverton Cove is a nice little layout about 1 hour outside of metro Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia. It's near the western coast, close to Port Klang. Running at about 5800m (6380y) from the tips, it makes up for the shortfall with LOTS OF WATER. 🌊 I think I counted 14 times times where I was standing on the tee box and my new friends said, "There's water on the left.... Oh and also the right." 🤦‍♂️
The thrice demoted driver was not performing (are you surprised?) and I struggled to keep my tee shots in the short grass. The irons weren't doing any better and I was either too short or too long. (Hence my oh-so-appropriate forum handle.) The only thing that kept my score from ballooning out of control were the wedges and the putter. Nothing like gaining momentum after sinking a 4-footer to save bogey! 💪
Anyway, all was redeemed when I chipped in on the 13th from 14-ft for the lone birdie in the group today! (It only takes 1 good shot to bring us back for more punishment!)
Must go explore other courses in the metro KL area now!
 

Date 08/21/2024 Course Name Reedsburg Country Club Gross Score 46 Course Rating 34.6 Course Slope 125 Gross Strokes over/under par 10 Birdies or better 0 Longest Drive 0 A quad on the first hole was a killer in this round. Had a good line on a punch out but hit it TOO well and then made a mess of it from there. Otherwise played pretty solid, having 4 opportunities for birdie and leaving tap-ins after each one. Two stopped just short of the hole.
I feel I am so close to turning the corner. Just need to get those first tee woes out of my system.

Date 08/22/2024 Course Name Key West Golf Club Gross Score 81 Course Rating 67.7 Course Slope 124 Gross Strokes over/under par 11 Birdies or better 3 Longest Drive 180 Due to travel and serving as an elections clerk for a Florida primary, I finally get back to playing golf!  

Overall, it was a pretty good round for not swinging a club for a while.  I missed only two fairways:  the first and the last holes.   One right and one left.  I hit maybe a handful of drives well (distance-wise), so I was scrambling a bit. 
My greens in regulation was OK for me at 11% as I hit a few ill-advised irons to greens.  My up and downs at 6 was decent and included chipping in on 18.  I also had five up and down for bogeys that kept my score from ballooning!
The 25 putts was good day.  I must have missed charging my Shot Scope my last round, so I could capture this round.  I'm betting though, my distance of putts made had to be maybe 40 ft or so.  The greens were a bit "shaggy" as the course gets ready for their third aeration next week.  So, comparing to what they will be like next week, they were probably pretty good!

Date 08/22/2024 Course Name Lago Vista Golf Course Gross Score 77 Course Rating 70.3 Course Slope 132 Gross Strokes over/under par 5 Birdies or better 1 Longest Drive 310 So so round today. Woods worked well, irons were decent most of the day.  Our fairways are brutally dry and you have to hit ball first everytime or be prepared to lose 10-20 yards. 
Have a couple more rounds planned for the weekend and going to play in the morning because this 106 feels like 115 is for the birds. Ha
 

I’m in the same boat down in Flight IV. Good race shaping up down there.

A lot of great play out there! Nursing a bad back and anticipate several guys in flight I running right over me. Once again thank you Ben for all your hard work!

Look forward to reading our testers' feedback to understand beyond all the advertising hype!

Date 08/10/2024 Course Name Orient Golf & Country Club Gross Score 86 Course Rating 75.9 Course Slope 134 Gross Strokes over/under par 14 Birdies or better 12 Longest Drive 230 75.9/134
I'm in Taiwan for a golf trip and played 3 rounds. (I'm only posting my best round. 😅)
The weather in Taiwan is SWELTERING right now. I thought Singapore was bad being 1.3° north of the equator, but Taiwan has been brutal these past 3 days. And that heat really sapped me of energy to swing a club and focus. We played (in order):
Chang Gung GC (長庚) Sunrise G&CC (揚昇) The Orient G&CC (東方) I'll have to do another trip report post, but to quickly summarise, Orient was in the best condition and we had the best weather (overcast for the back nine which helped keep the temp down). All the courses had a plethora of flora and fauna to gawk at, including the golden neck egret. Unfortunately, those were birds and not birdies.
My driver was completely misbehaving, and I took my medicine for the first time and used 3W from the 4th hole onwards. Wedges were on fire, giving me 6 looks at birdie (only managed to convert 1). There was also a chip-in from 22 yds to save par! 🤣
On the 16th, we had the course's mascot come over to watch us tee off:

As we were chipping onto the 18th green, the skies opened up and it started to pour. I had better ball-striking on the back, but I scrambled better on the front. Resulted in a 42-44-86 and a new lowest differential for the round!
Very happy with this round and a great way to close out our Taiwan golf trip!

Date 08/10/2024 Course Name Orient Golf & Country Club Gross Score 86 Course Rating 75.9 Course Slope 134 Gross Strokes over/under par 14 Birdies or better 12 Longest Drive 230 75.9/134
I'm in Taiwan for a golf trip and played 3 rounds. (I'm only posting my best round. 😅)
The weather in Taiwan is SWELTERING right now. I thought Singapore was bad being 1.3° north of the equator, but Taiwan has been brutal these past 3 days. And that heat really sapped me of energy to swing a club and focus. We played (in order):
Chang Gung GC (長庚) Sunrise G&CC (揚昇) The Orient G&CC (東方) I'll have to do another trip report post, but to quickly summarise, Orient was in the best condition and we had the best weather (overcast for the back nine which helped keep the temp down). All the courses had a plethora of flora and fauna to gawk at, including the golden neck egret. Unfortunately, those were birds and not birdies.
My driver was completely misbehaving, and I took my medicine for the first time and used 3W from the 4th hole onwards. Wedges were on fire, giving me 6 looks at birdie (only managed to convert 1). There was also a chip-in from 22 yds to save par! 🤣
On the 16th, we had the course's mascot come over to watch us tee off:

As we were chipping onto the 18th green, the skies opened up and it started to pour. I had better ball-striking on the back, but I scrambled better on the front. Resulted in a 42-44-86 and a new lowest differential for the round!
Very happy with this round and a great way to close out our Taiwan golf trip!

Date 08/10/2024 Course Name Awarii Dunes Gross Score 76 Course Rating 70.7 Course Slope 119 Gross Strokes over/under par 5 Birdies or better 2 Longest Drive 290 I won’t be back at this course for a long time, assuming it will take several year to get course back in good condition. Until then, I played the course extremely well but missed a lot of birdie putts really close. Was the story of my trip. Time to get to the practice green and work on a few things with my stroke. Overall, a good, but not great, round of golf today. 

Date 08/10/2024 Course Name Orient Golf & Country Club Gross Score 86 Course Rating 75.9 Course Slope 134 Gross Strokes over/under par 14 Birdies or better 12 Longest Drive 230 75.9/134
I'm in Taiwan for a golf trip and played 3 rounds. (I'm only posting my best round. 😅)
The weather in Taiwan is SWELTERING right now. I thought Singapore was bad being 1.3° north of the equator, but Taiwan has been brutal these past 3 days. And that heat really sapped me of energy to swing a club and focus. We played (in order):
Chang Gung GC (長庚) Sunrise G&CC (揚昇) The Orient G&CC (東方) I'll have to do another trip report post, but to quickly summarise, Orient was in the best condition and we had the best weather (overcast for the back nine which helped keep the temp down). All the courses had a plethora of flora and fauna to gawk at, including the golden neck egret. Unfortunately, those were birds and not birdies.
My driver was completely misbehaving, and I took my medicine for the first time and used 3W from the 4th hole onwards. Wedges were on fire, giving me 6 looks at birdie (only managed to convert 1). There was also a chip-in from 22 yds to save par! 🤣
On the 16th, we had the course's mascot come over to watch us tee off:

As we were chipping onto the 18th green, the skies opened up and it started to pour. I had better ball-striking on the back, but I scrambled better on the front. Resulted in a 42-44-86 and a new lowest differential for the round!
Very happy with this round and a great way to close out our Taiwan golf trip!

Date 08/08/2024 Course Name Wild Horse Gross Score 78 Course Rating 71 Course Slope 124 Gross Strokes over/under par 6 Birdies or better 3 Longest Drive 305 Great day at Wild Horse, even if it did rain for the first 9 holes. The first 5 were really wet but the Mizuno rain gloves I bought were money. Got off to a hot start despite the steady rain at the start and was -1 through 7 but had a hard time finishing and made some bogeys that should have been pars. But for this course, 78 is a really good score.