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Let me throw in some way too early feedback on my EAS 4.0 so far.
I did have a league match last night. Arccos loved my putting:
Basically, I missed one putt that I should have made. I had about a 2.5' putt for a par. The hole was cut on the edge of the green, just off a ridge. It was going to be quick; it just need to be tapped. But I also expected that it would have a slight right break and it didn't. I burned the left edge of the hole and made the comebacker after it rolled 3' by. So the putter did exactly what I asked of it—it was clearly user error.
Otherwise, I felt really good with the putter in my hands last night. The 3–7' putts that typically give me fits felt much less daunting; as the round went all, I started expecting them to go in. Again, this is early, merely nine holes. We're still firmly in honeymoon season.
Yet the Edel didn't come with a price tag on it. Typically, once you remove the price tag, the magic goes away. So there might be something to this.... 🙂
One more thing: I did some pretesting with my current putter on a drill on my putting mat. I set up the PuttOut and start at 1'. In order to move back, I either have to make a perfect putt or (much worse) take 10 attempts. I work my way back to 7', and then total up the number of attempts. Before my Edel came, I did this three times with my Odyssey Stroke Lab Toe Up Big Seven (OSLTUBS—that's going to be its new name, Osltubs, because it's way too long to type). In those three attempts, I got scores of 45, 43, and 55.
Did my first attempt with the Edel this morning: 39. What was amazing, I started similar to normal: I took six putts from 1', and then failed to make a perfect from 2', 3', and 4' (so 10 putts at each of those). But then I made a first attempt perfect at 5', then again at 6', and then again at 7'.
Whoa. Interesting....
 

So while we're all patiently and somewhat painfully waiting to receive our putters.. and then attempt to catch up to @GolfSpy MPR 😜.. I was able to take a few queues away from my fitting to help the 2 putters compete more aggressively against each other. Just a note, I'm not doing this testing because I hate my Cleveland Premier and am looking for something else. I Actually love it! The fitting even validated further that it's a really solid putter that could yield quite a lot of success in the right hands and with the correct setup. I'm also not skeptical in any way about the Edel system but am really interested to see how this process can help move me to the next level in my game. Some of the queues are physical characteristics of the putter itself that can easily be improved and others are characteristics that only the Edel is equipt with. Other queues are techniques that I can implement to improve my putting in general between both putters. 
1) I learned that my current putter, although previously adjusted was still much too flat by about 3.5*. I was able to have it adjusted to match the 74.5* lie angle determined by Aram my fitter. My new putter will be showing up at 74* but it's also 36" vs my Cleveland at 34". There's not really much I can do about the 34" besides having an extension added but I'm not ready to go there yet. 
2) My current gamer, while still more head-heavy is actually more equally balanced than most of the putters we would find on the floor. I've known this from the start that the feel is more even rather than just the head feeling like it's swinging on string, and is something that I've really liked from the HB Premier 4. So while it isn't counter balanced in the grip, it's more balanced throughout and actually a pretty good match up to compare with the EAS 1.0. 
3) My previous grip was too weak in the right hand (bottom) and because I had a push tendency, strengthening the right hand by rolling it over a little more, was a more natural position to work with my biomechanics and will help neutralize the push a little better. Now, I will say that when using the Blast Motion Putting software, that my "push" from 8 putts at 10' was around .3* open. In the initial observation with my gamer, I drained all 8 putts and that's nothing to be ashamed of. 
4) My putting pace, aim, and distance control are the 3 areas that we determined I needed the most help. With my current putter, starting the ball on the intended line isn't really the issue. It's actually lining up my putts correctly, reading the green, and then executing the proper pace as well as creating a consistent stroke to get the ball rolling more true rather than occasionally bouncing the ball off the face due to being to fast or adding too much loft to the face at impact. Aram gave me some really good mental drills as well as recommending picking up the Blast Motion Software. 
So far, even with the fitting process and putting analysis, I feel like I'm off to a great start even with my own putter. This is the round that I played on Sunday. On average at this course, I'm seeing around 32-33 putts. The greens here are tricky and really require a good short game to place the ball accordingly. I'd say at least half of the greens have shelves so if you miss the shelf either high/low, right/left,  you're left with a tricky putt. Nearly the other half are small greens or have pretty aggressive slopes and breaks. Now I won't say that my score was all completely due to the putting improvements.. but I will say that the "teaser" swing analysis that I got while I was there made almost a night and day improvement for me and can't thank Aram and Golf-Tec enough for the time taken to help me! 
 
 
 

So a few more early impressions.
Got in nine holes with Kirke this morning. I missed two putts that I really wanted to make. Both were within 8'; on both, as soon as I hit the putt, I knew I had changed the face angle at impact (one push, one pull). Even so, Arccos saw my putting as a strength (about a 6 handicap).
Through 27 holes with the Edel, I have 44 putts—with zero three putts so far. That works out to just under 30 putts per 18.
On the subjective side (I know I'm overdue for a gratuitous photo post): I have zero complaints. I don't know that I'd say there's anything about the putter's looks or feel that wows me. On the feel side: I've been an insert guy for a while now, mostly with Odyssey. In general, I favor a soft feel in a putter. The Edel obviously doesn't feel like a soft insert, but it's also in no way harsh. It feels, to me, exactly like what I'd expect. That's what I mean by not wowing me; it's not really a criticism.
The same is true for the looks, especially at address. The Edel looks utilitarian, but in the best way. It doesn't at all look cheap, in my estimation. But it also doesn't look like it's trying to edge into the Tyson Lamb discussion either.
I will say, as one final comment here: my putter is heavy. I do not know the spec of the weight in the handle of the putter. But I do know that the full putter feels really substantial. I'll weigh it in the next couple of days and post a total weight. All that said, during the stroke, it feels properly balanced to me.

Let me throw in some way too early feedback on my EAS 4.0 so far.
I did have a league match last night. Arccos loved my putting:
Basically, I missed one putt that I should have made. I had about a 2.5' putt for a par. The hole was cut on the edge of the green, just off a ridge. It was going to be quick; it just need to be tapped. But I also expected that it would have a slight right break and it didn't. I burned the left edge of the hole and made the comebacker after it rolled 3' by. So the putter did exactly what I asked of it—it was clearly user error.
Otherwise, I felt really good with the putter in my hands last night. The 3–7' putts that typically give me fits felt much less daunting; as the round went all, I started expecting them to go in. Again, this is early, merely nine holes. We're still firmly in honeymoon season.
Yet the Edel didn't come with a price tag on it. Typically, once you remove the price tag, the magic goes away. So there might be something to this.... 🙂
One more thing: I did some pretesting with my current putter on a drill on my putting mat. I set up the PuttOut and start at 1'. In order to move back, I either have to make a perfect putt or (much worse) take 10 attempts. I work my way back to 7', and then total up the number of attempts. Before my Edel came, I did this three times with my Odyssey Stroke Lab Toe Up Big Seven (OSLTUBS—that's going to be its new name, Osltubs, because it's way too long to type). In those three attempts, I got scores of 45, 43, and 55.
Did my first attempt with the Edel this morning: 39. What was amazing, I started similar to normal: I took six putts from 1', and then failed to make a perfect from 2', 3', and 4' (so 10 putts at each of those). But then I made a first attempt perfect at 5', then again at 6', and then again at 7'.
Whoa. Interesting....
 

I finally went through my fitting this past Sunday and for the most part I was expecting the same, some sort of an analysis of my putting stroke via video or putting programs which was not the case.  I had watched all of David Edel's YouTube fitting videos before hand which I probably shouldn't have because I was expecting a similar fitting but best to describe my fitting experience as a VERY condensed version, my fitting process took all of 38 minutes.   Expecting delivery of my putter hopefully by early next week.  More to come...
 
 

So a few more early impressions.
Got in nine holes with Kirke this morning. I missed two putts that I really wanted to make. Both were within 8'; on both, as soon as I hit the putt, I knew I had changed the face angle at impact (one push, one pull). Even so, Arccos saw my putting as a strength (about a 6 handicap).
Through 27 holes with the Edel, I have 44 putts—with zero three putts so far. That works out to just under 30 putts per 18.
On the subjective side (I know I'm overdue for a gratuitous photo post): I have zero complaints. I don't know that I'd say there's anything about the putter's looks or feel that wows me. On the feel side: I've been an insert guy for a while now, mostly with Odyssey. In general, I favor a soft feel in a putter. The Edel obviously doesn't feel like a soft insert, but it's also in no way harsh. It feels, to me, exactly like what I'd expect. That's what I mean by not wowing me; it's not really a criticism.
The same is true for the looks, especially at address. The Edel looks utilitarian, but in the best way. It doesn't at all look cheap, in my estimation. But it also doesn't look like it's trying to edge into the Tyson Lamb discussion either.
I will say, as one final comment here: my putter is heavy. I do not know the spec of the weight in the handle of the putter. But I do know that the full putter feels really substantial. I'll weigh it in the next couple of days and post a total weight. All that said, during the stroke, it feels properly balanced to me.

So a few more early impressions.
Got in nine holes with Kirke this morning. I missed two putts that I really wanted to make. Both were within 8'; on both, as soon as I hit the putt, I knew I had changed the face angle at impact (one push, one pull). Even so, Arccos saw my putting as a strength (about a 6 handicap).
Through 27 holes with the Edel, I have 44 putts—with zero three putts so far. That works out to just under 30 putts per 18.
On the subjective side (I know I'm overdue for a gratuitous photo post): I have zero complaints. I don't know that I'd say there's anything about the putter's looks or feel that wows me. On the feel side: I've been an insert guy for a while now, mostly with Odyssey. In general, I favor a soft feel in a putter. The Edel obviously doesn't feel like a soft insert, but it's also in no way harsh. It feels, to me, exactly like what I'd expect. That's what I mean by not wowing me; it's not really a criticism.
The same is true for the looks, especially at address. The Edel looks utilitarian, but in the best way. It doesn't at all look cheap, in my estimation. But it also doesn't look like it's trying to edge into the Tyson Lamb discussion either.
I will say, as one final comment here: my putter is heavy. I do not know the spec of the weight in the handle of the putter. But I do know that the full putter feels really substantial. I'll weigh it in the next couple of days and post a total weight. All that said, during the stroke, it feels properly balanced to me.

This is such an important piece of information for those interested in an Edel fitting.
I went in assuming that the fitting was going to involve something like a SAM PuttLab. I was looking for an analysis of my stroke, and then a putter fitted for the stroke.
Instead, at least as I see it, the Edel fitting really consists of three main components:
First, biometrics. They want to know your height and wingspan, and then the upper arm/lower arm ratio. All of this information is relevant to how you are most likely to "naturally" want to swing the putter. Second, aim. We've already talked about this some, but this is especially a major facet of the EAS series of putters. It was very interesting that as we tried out different markings on the topline and flange of the putter, it would make subtle differences in my aim. As I mentioned in my video, my aim with my new Edel isn't perfect, but it's much closer than it was before. The round grip is also part of Edel's theory on aim. Third, speed. This is where the fitter experiments with different handle weights and head weights to dial in your putter so that the ball rolls out the distance that you expect. I suspect that their fitting model is different, at least in part, because Edel is committed to torque balanced putters. That isn't the topline item on the EAS series, but it's been a longstanding commitment of Edel's putters. If all your putters are torque balanced, you're not really interested in arc vs. straight putting, because you're not adjusting toe hang and closure rate.
 
TEST: @GolfSpy_TCG

So a few more early impressions.
Got in nine holes with Kirke this morning. I missed two putts that I really wanted to make. Both were within 8'; on both, as soon as I hit the putt, I knew I had changed the face angle at impact (one push, one pull). Even so, Arccos saw my putting as a strength (about a 6 handicap).
Through 27 holes with the Edel, I have 44 putts—with zero three putts so far. That works out to just under 30 putts per 18.
On the subjective side (I know I'm overdue for a gratuitous photo post): I have zero complaints. I don't know that I'd say there's anything about the putter's looks or feel that wows me. On the feel side: I've been an insert guy for a while now, mostly with Odyssey. In general, I favor a soft feel in a putter. The Edel obviously doesn't feel like a soft insert, but it's also in no way harsh. It feels, to me, exactly like what I'd expect. That's what I mean by not wowing me; it's not really a criticism.
The same is true for the looks, especially at address. The Edel looks utilitarian, but in the best way. It doesn't at all look cheap, in my estimation. But it also doesn't look like it's trying to edge into the Tyson Lamb discussion either.
I will say, as one final comment here: my putter is heavy. I do not know the spec of the weight in the handle of the putter. But I do know that the full putter feels really substantial. I'll weigh it in the next couple of days and post a total weight. All that said, during the stroke, it feels properly balanced to me.

So a few more early impressions.
Got in nine holes with Kirke this morning. I missed two putts that I really wanted to make. Both were within 8'; on both, as soon as I hit the putt, I knew I had changed the face angle at impact (one push, one pull). Even so, Arccos saw my putting as a strength (about a 6 handicap).
Through 27 holes with the Edel, I have 44 putts—with zero three putts so far. That works out to just under 30 putts per 18.
On the subjective side (I know I'm overdue for a gratuitous photo post): I have zero complaints. I don't know that I'd say there's anything about the putter's looks or feel that wows me. On the feel side: I've been an insert guy for a while now, mostly with Odyssey. In general, I favor a soft feel in a putter. The Edel obviously doesn't feel like a soft insert, but it's also in no way harsh. It feels, to me, exactly like what I'd expect. That's what I mean by not wowing me; it's not really a criticism.
The same is true for the looks, especially at address. The Edel looks utilitarian, but in the best way. It doesn't at all look cheap, in my estimation. But it also doesn't look like it's trying to edge into the Tyson Lamb discussion either.
I will say, as one final comment here: my putter is heavy. I do not know the spec of the weight in the handle of the putter. But I do know that the full putter feels really substantial. I'll weigh it in the next couple of days and post a total weight. All that said, during the stroke, it feels properly balanced to me.

Let me throw in some way too early feedback on my EAS 4.0 so far.
I did have a league match last night. Arccos loved my putting:
Basically, I missed one putt that I should have made. I had about a 2.5' putt for a par. The hole was cut on the edge of the green, just off a ridge. It was going to be quick; it just need to be tapped. But I also expected that it would have a slight right break and it didn't. I burned the left edge of the hole and made the comebacker after it rolled 3' by. So the putter did exactly what I asked of it—it was clearly user error.
Otherwise, I felt really good with the putter in my hands last night. The 3–7' putts that typically give me fits felt much less daunting; as the round went all, I started expecting them to go in. Again, this is early, merely nine holes. We're still firmly in honeymoon season.
Yet the Edel didn't come with a price tag on it. Typically, once you remove the price tag, the magic goes away. So there might be something to this.... 🙂
One more thing: I did some pretesting with my current putter on a drill on my putting mat. I set up the PuttOut and start at 1'. In order to move back, I either have to make a perfect putt or (much worse) take 10 attempts. I work my way back to 7', and then total up the number of attempts. Before my Edel came, I did this three times with my Odyssey Stroke Lab Toe Up Big Seven (OSLTUBS—that's going to be its new name, Osltubs, because it's way too long to type). In those three attempts, I got scores of 45, 43, and 55.
Did my first attempt with the Edel this morning: 39. What was amazing, I started similar to normal: I took six putts from 1', and then failed to make a perfect from 2', 3', and 4' (so 10 putts at each of those). But then I made a first attempt perfect at 5', then again at 6', and then again at 7'.
Whoa. Interesting....
 

I could guess, but it really would be just that. Because Arccos (by default; I think this is something they're changing) tracks only the length of your first putt on the green, I can't see my make rate from specific distances yet. Here's my putting stats from my most recent 10 rounds (including my first 9 holes with the Edel last night), compared to scratch:

A few takeaways:
As I mention in the video, I almost never have a putt outside 50'. Our greens are just too small for that to happen often. The further I move from the hole, the "better" my putting gets. This is true, obviously, only on a strokes gained basis. I'm obviously not making more 12 footers than I am 5 footers. On a total putts basis, I'm comparable to a scratch golfer, but some of that is clearly due to 1) missing greens and 2) small greens. (Missing greens is also somewhat due to small greens, but I digress.)

And here it is: my introduction, fitting, unboxing, and expectations video! (Pro tip: if you don't want to spend 15 minutes of your life hearing me wax eloquent about putting, change the playback speed to 1.5.)
Let me know what questions you have about the putter or aspects of the testing you'd like to see.

Loving this test already. @GolfSpy MPRlove the 1-7’ when I first got the puttout that was my first drills I did, love it!

Excellent unboxing video @GolfSpy MPR! That putter looks so good and hopefully it'll perform better than that for you, looks like it's already off to a positive start with your league match. 

Yea he definitely makes us all look like slackers with that video!

Given that I'm also a chaplain with the Michigan State Police, I'm very aware of this phenomenon.

Given that I'm also a chaplain with the Michigan State Police, I'm very aware of this phenomenon.

Since @revkev already has the MGS Forum Chaplain position locked down, I needed to start reaching out to other mission fields.

Let me throw in some way too early feedback on my EAS 4.0 so far.
I did have a league match last night. Arccos loved my putting:
Basically, I missed one putt that I should have made. I had about a 2.5' putt for a par. The hole was cut on the edge of the green, just off a ridge. It was going to be quick; it just need to be tapped. But I also expected that it would have a slight right break and it didn't. I burned the left edge of the hole and made the comebacker after it rolled 3' by. So the putter did exactly what I asked of it—it was clearly user error.
Otherwise, I felt really good with the putter in my hands last night. The 3–7' putts that typically give me fits felt much less daunting; as the round went all, I started expecting them to go in. Again, this is early, merely nine holes. We're still firmly in honeymoon season.
Yet the Edel didn't come with a price tag on it. Typically, once you remove the price tag, the magic goes away. So there might be something to this.... 🙂
One more thing: I did some pretesting with my current putter on a drill on my putting mat. I set up the PuttOut and start at 1'. In order to move back, I either have to make a perfect putt or (much worse) take 10 attempts. I work my way back to 7', and then total up the number of attempts. Before my Edel came, I did this three times with my Odyssey Stroke Lab Toe Up Big Seven (OSLTUBS—that's going to be its new name, Osltubs, because it's way too long to type). In those three attempts, I got scores of 45, 43, and 55.
Did my first attempt with the Edel this morning: 39. What was amazing, I started similar to normal: I took six putts from 1', and then failed to make a perfect from 2', 3', and 4' (so 10 putts at each of those). But then I made a first attempt perfect at 5', then again at 6', and then again at 7'.
Whoa. Interesting....
 

This is such an important piece of information for those interested in an Edel fitting.
I went in assuming that the fitting was going to involve something like a SAM PuttLab. I was looking for an analysis of my stroke, and then a putter fitted for the stroke.
Instead, at least as I see it, the Edel fitting really consists of three main components:
First, biometrics. They want to know your height and wingspan, and then the upper arm/lower arm ratio. All of this information is relevant to how you are most likely to "naturally" want to swing the putter. Second, aim. We've already talked about this some, but this is especially a major facet of the EAS series of putters. It was very interesting that as we tried out different markings on the topline and flange of the putter, it would make subtle differences in my aim. As I mentioned in my video, my aim with my new Edel isn't perfect, but it's much closer than it was before. The round grip is also part of Edel's theory on aim. Third, speed. This is where the fitter experiments with different handle weights and head weights to dial in your putter so that the ball rolls out the distance that you expect. I suspect that their fitting model is different, at least in part, because Edel is committed to torque balanced putters. That isn't the topline item on the EAS series, but it's been a longstanding commitment of Edel's putters. If all your putters are torque balanced, you're not really interested in arc vs. straight putting, because you're not adjusting toe hang and closure rate.
 
TEST: @GolfSpy_TCG

Given that I'm also a chaplain with the Michigan State Police, I'm very aware of this phenomenon.

Given that I'm also a chaplain with the Michigan State Police, I'm very aware of this phenomenon.

Since @revkev already has the MGS Forum Chaplain position locked down, I needed to start reaching out to other mission fields.

Let me throw in some way too early feedback on my EAS 4.0 so far.
I did have a league match last night. Arccos loved my putting:
Basically, I missed one putt that I should have made. I had about a 2.5' putt for a par. The hole was cut on the edge of the green, just off a ridge. It was going to be quick; it just need to be tapped. But I also expected that it would have a slight right break and it didn't. I burned the left edge of the hole and made the comebacker after it rolled 3' by. So the putter did exactly what I asked of it—it was clearly user error.
Otherwise, I felt really good with the putter in my hands last night. The 3–7' putts that typically give me fits felt much less daunting; as the round went all, I started expecting them to go in. Again, this is early, merely nine holes. We're still firmly in honeymoon season.
Yet the Edel didn't come with a price tag on it. Typically, once you remove the price tag, the magic goes away. So there might be something to this.... 🙂
One more thing: I did some pretesting with my current putter on a drill on my putting mat. I set up the PuttOut and start at 1'. In order to move back, I either have to make a perfect putt or (much worse) take 10 attempts. I work my way back to 7', and then total up the number of attempts. Before my Edel came, I did this three times with my Odyssey Stroke Lab Toe Up Big Seven (OSLTUBS—that's going to be its new name, Osltubs, because it's way too long to type). In those three attempts, I got scores of 45, 43, and 55.
Did my first attempt with the Edel this morning: 39. What was amazing, I started similar to normal: I took six putts from 1', and then failed to make a perfect from 2', 3', and 4' (so 10 putts at each of those). But then I made a first attempt perfect at 5', then again at 6', and then again at 7'.
Whoa. Interesting....