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The only system I know of that works with foam balls is Optishot, since it only measures the clubhead. Foam balls still are loud, but a different sound than real balls. Some systems might work with almost golf, but I have no idea what they sound like.

This company must have the absolute worst customer service in the industry. I have an SL1 hybrid range finder, it has gps, laser and green slopes. I had a issue with the display blinking the company logo when the gps function was not active. I contacted VC, because this caused the battery to run down. It took a week of constantly recharging, when I tried holding the on off button down for nearly a minute (was supposed to turn off in 10 seconds)(this in general solved the problem, but I wanted it fixed) finally a couple more weeks and I get an email from support, telling me to reset the unit and how to do it. Well I reset it alright, right into laser mode only, the display no longer works. I have sent several emails, contacted BBB and even on facebook and nothing to help me. There are several others who have posted their lack of support. I would not recommend buying any of their products. On the other hand Shot Scope has been wonderful in their support, I would recommend their products highly.

Combine the quality testing with the performance testing. There should be one complete place to see how the balls compare. Add the Oncore line

The butt end of the shaft has no bearing on the performance of the club, that is why every other shaft is trimmed from the butt to make the proper length for the club. The only thing KBS does, is precut the length for the clubs before they ship them, they do not make a different shaft for every club. ( then they would have to make every club in every possible length option, come on, nobody would do that) What your issue might be is a different flex, kick point than what you ordered

+6 87 Jeff Jenkins

Date 05/17/2023 Course Name Spring hills Gross Score 72 Course Handicap 0 Gross Strokes over/under par 2 Net Score to Par 2 Net Score 72 Net Birdies or better 3 Longest Drive 248

Total BS, This certainly does not take into account the rating, length or anything else. Sure as around a 5 or 6, playing a tour course under tour conditions I probably would never have broken 70, but as a blanket statement BS, I have shot as low as 62, and regularly break 70 during a season. (my 62 was on a shorter course where I consider my personal par 67) But over my life have broken 70 from the tips at near 7000 yds , the regular tees and now the senior tees.

I moved away from the over priced Titleists after the Pro Traj, there was nothing I loved, several years ago, with Cut, Snell, and now Oncore, The Snell's are made by the man who started the Pro v1, and the Oncores are every bit as good as the Snell's

I played these the last two years, and love them, now using the Vero x As far as I am concerned no better balls period.

If you can count them you are not trying hard enough. My first was a 5 iron and I was no more than 5 yrs old with it, oh unless you count the plastic heads and aluminum shaft clubs I had at my grand parents, ( had to get steel shafts I hit them so much)

Again are you going to quit if the ball goes a little shorter, or are you going to learn how to hit it better.

I played Firestone S about 2 weeks before the WSOG around 1990 the rough was 6 inches and took weeks to grow, it does not happen in 2 weeks. I caddied one year at the WSOG the average golfer could not hit it out of the rough, is that what you want on your vacation to a tour stop resort like this week at Copperhead.

Apparently you know nothing about the rules, There IS NO CAP on the ball, there is a standard and it is based upon certain conditions. Previously the ODS was something like 289 yds at a certain swing speed, that was changed to the current ODS of 317 yds at 120 mph swing speed, exceed that swing speed and the ball goes farther. All you need to do is look at the WLD and see how far they hit it, and understand that will be tour pros as the keep getting stronger, larger and better unless something is done to reign the ball in. The USGA has determined that biomechanics has a limit of around 145 mph, whether anyone can reach that is debatable but come on 130 is definitely in reach,

If you have a greens keeping background, you would know how silly your ideas are. Takes weeks to grow out the rough, more water, and chemicals, Making a course unplayable for anyone else, all to get to one week a year. Making smaller greens is not about just letting the edges grow in bunkers need moved etc. The issue is not today, but 5 or 10 years from now, when there may be players who can fly it 400, what do you do when players are hitting it that far and chipping to anything less than 500 yds as a par 4, you fix the ball then? The ball should have been fixed decades ago, the USGA changed the swing speed but did little to fix the overall distance standard that was the new limit.. I dont believe in the end the manufactures will go for this, no ball no rule, but I do believe the USGA/RA are serious about protecting the game, keeping it sustainable and affordable, longer courses deeper rough are not sustainable solutions and not good for the game for the rest of us. I think the push back from the MFC's will force them to reign it ALL legal balls, but come on what 20 hdcp will notice his or her 200yd bunt goes 10 yds shorter, most players dont hit it solid enough often enough to know. Are you gonna quit or just move up a few yards

First I dont get all the whining about this, JT and Spieth et al are dead wrong. 20 yards off the tee will do nothing to change the pro game, one more club into holes will do little. But the change will do a whole lot to protect the overall health of the game. Golf is at a cross roads, and has been, yes it has grown because of covid, but the environmental impact of golf courses has constantly been under attack. Land water and chemical use is critical to the health of the game, if it is perceived to be using too much of these resources (add in fuel for mowers) the backlash could kill the game. It is this sustainability factor that has brought us here, You can not keep lengthening courses (even if you just look at those used for pro and college events, which is 100's in the US alone) The cost in acquiring land if available and in many areas it is not would make these courses too expensive to survive. Do you want to play somewhere like Copperhead, for 6 or 700 to cover the increased cost? Pebble 2 grand, see my point. And growing the rough is not a solution, it still costs water and chemicals that are sometimes scarce, and takes weeks, do you want to spend your hard earned money to play a course getting ready for a tour event where you lose a ball every time you miss the fairway or a green. I think not. Ohio did this in 2006 for the Ohio Open, one ball, shorter the players still scored well, look it up, sure there was some adjustment, but is there not every week. But mark my words, if the USGA/RA dont get the ball manufacturers on board this is either dead, or everyone will be playing the slightly shorter ball (did anyone notice the last change in ball specifications, no they did not) Because something has to be done to protect the game in general, sure nobody wants to lose a few yards off the tee, but is it worth a few yards ( that is easier to adjust the courses for) than to kill the game. Both financially and due to increased environmental oversight. Already I have seen several local courses purchased by the tax payer and turned into wildlife areas, Without some adjustment in equipment (and the ball is the easiest,) the game will lose in the end. classic courses will no longer be seen, And others will be lengthened even if they are not relevant to the pro game, because the PROS play 8000 8500 yard courses. Nicklaus invented the Cayman ball, and a shorter course, it did not take off, but it was visionary when it came to land and resource use. By doing nothing the USGA/RA is insuring the death of the game, mark my words.