Hoyoymac

In anticipation of my fitting I’ve started up my swing speed training with the Stack System again. Have also been walking 9 holes two or three times each week using my Bag Boy Quad XL cart and Alphard V2 wheels. A week and a half to go! Also have been spending some time reading everything I can on the TPT shafts and spent some time this week on the golfshaftreviews.com site to look at the information on each shaft that I’ll be testing and also the shafts that I’m playing currently. Noticed some interesting similarities.

Got a bit off track. Did a number of return to form workouts and then today I got back on my program and was happy with my results.

Love my Corey Paul minimalist blades made with forgings from Kyoei.

My two driver choices were either the Cobra LTDx LS or the Tour Edge C723. I went with the Cobra LTDx LS because it is maybe just a little bit longer than the Tour Edge C723 but not as forgiving. Since one of the claims of the TPT shafts is better dispersion I thought that the Cobra driver would be a better candidate to test. Have been kinda considering upgrading to the new Cobra Darkspeed LS and if so the TPT shaft would fit that club as well.

Congratulations to all of the testers! A couple of years ago I went through the Ping Ballnamic fitting and the Maxfli Tour ball was my top recommendation. The reviews on MyGolfSpy gave me the confidence to try it out. Been playing it ever since. I especially like the center of gravity being marked on the Maxfli balls as it saves me the time it took using my Check Pro Go to find the center of gravity and mark my previous gamer ball the Bridgestone Tour BRX. Started doing that after reading Dave Pelz’s book the Putting Bible. I do revert back to the Bridgestone ball in the winter because it is a little softer and doesn’t spin quite as much which makes up for distance loss due to the cold and gives me a better feel. It really performs well for me and I would most likely still play the Maxfli Tour ball even if it was priced the same as the Bridgestone ball. As is it’s a great value! I prefer the double line alignment marking on the previous generation Maxfli balls over the current single line alignment aid.Very curious to get everyone’s impression of the new Max Align markings on these test balls. The Maxfli Tour X ball flies higher and spins more for me while the new Tour S ball flies lower and spins less. Exactly as claimed by Maxfli. The Tour ball is the Goldilocks ball for me.

Congratulations to all of the testers. Been playing the Maxfli Tour ball for couple of years now after it was my top recommendation from the Ping Ballnamic fitting and the MyGolf Spy ball tests and ball lab confirmed it as a quality option at a great value. In the winter when it is colder to counteract the loss of distance I generally revert back to my previous gamer the Bridgestone Tour BRX ball because its a bit softer and doesn’t spin as much so it ges a bit further than the Maxfli Tour once the temps drop below 60 degrees. The Maxfli Tour X ball flies a bit higher and spins more for me than the Tour ball. The newer Tour S flies lower and spins less for me. Doing exactly what they claim. I preferred the previous generations alignment aid with the two lines over the current generation. Very curious what everyone’s thoughts are on the new max align markings.

Hoyoymac here from the coast of Georgia. Retired to this area about ten years ago with my wife to golf and fish year round and I live about 40 miles South of Savannah, GA playing over 200 golf rounds a year most often at the Sapelo Hammock Golf Club. Despite this testing opportunity initially being offered only to Texas residents I was so excited to test the new TPT shafts that in my entry I volunteered to pay my own way to travel to Texas for the shaft fitting with Jon Sinclair. Thanks to MyGolfSpy and TPT Golf for recognizing my enthusiasm and allowing me to participate in this wonderful opportunity to get fitted for and test the newest TPT golf shafts. Why am I enthusiastic about TPT golf shafts? Over the last few years I’ve observed this start-up company come in to the golf world and quickly establish itself with the most discerning players on the PGA Tour, LPGA Tour, World Long Drive circuit. These players have tried, put into play and won with these shafts. I believe that the TPT Golf process to make golf shafts is a disruptive technology in the arena of golf shaft manufacturing. As a golfer looking to gain distance and reduce my down range dispersion this makes me eager to see for myself how these shafts will benefit me too. Here’s how my golf game looks at the moment: The three clubs that I will be testing the TPT Golf shafts in are: Driver - Cobra LTDx LS 9.0 3 wood - Cobra LTDx 15 deg. 5 hybrid - Cobra LTDx 24 deg. My Arccos smart Distance with driver: This driver is currently paired with a Diamana ZF 60S shaft. Being played currently in the Neutral Draw setting. The 3 wood is paired with a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 7S shaft and is set to 16.5 degrees. This has been the best fairway wood I’ve ever had. The 5 hybrid is paired with a Fujikura Fuel Hyb 85g Stiff shaft. This hybrid has a bonded hosel, so I have just bought another one to receive the TPT Hybrid shaft that I get fit into in order to compare them. I will be testing these golf shafts both on the course using Arccos to track statistics and on the range using a Rapsodo MLM launch monitor to gather data. Also getting back to Swing Speed Training with the Stack System right now and will be trying to incorporate some of Martin Borgmeier’s protocols into my training. Martin is currently using the TPT golf shafts to compete in World Long Drive events. The Fitting with Jon Sinclair is another exciting component of this shaft test. These shafts are premium products and a comparable premium fitting just makes sense to get the most out of them. The shafts I’m currently playing are among the best quality available using traditional shaft manufacturing technology and processes. I’ve been fit for them and they’ve been tweaked after the fitting through trial and error. It will be very interesting to see how the new TPT shafts compare! Initial Impressions: 10 out of 10 The Fitter, Jon Sinclair, built the Power Range 18 LO Driver shaft, 17 HI 3 wood shaft and installed the 17 LO in the 5 Hybrid that I had left with them and sent them to me. When I unboxed them I was really impressed with how good they looked. These shafts are eye catching with the bright yellow design and the matte black visible carbon. He also sent me a text message with the amount of weight to add to each club head to get them to the Swing Weight that we determined was best from the fitting. Took them to the range before playing with our Men’s Golf Association and stood them up in one of the bag stands and soon I had a crowd of guys coming over to take a look at them. Started by taking a few swings with my Cobra LTDx LS Driver 9.0 deg. Set at standard. Used my Rapsodo MLM to capture some data. Forgot to use foot powder spray on the driver. The impacts were all practically in the same spot though. Then took a few swings with my Cobra LTDx 15 deg. 3 wood set at +1.5. Following is a picture of the face showing 3 shots all in the same spot. Then on to the Cobra LTDx 24 deg 5 hybrid. By this point there were a half dozen guys watching me hit some shots and asking me questions about the shafts. Used foot powder spray to capture a few shots with the hybrid. The word that comes to mind to describe these three shafts is STABLE. TPT Golf has made the claim on their website that the 3 shafts all have one feeling. I AGREE! They all felt the same. They all felt really strong, stable and smooth. No real noticeable kick sensation. Just powerfully fluid. Another claim of theirs is that Dispersion will be tighter with their shafts. I found that also to be true. Took them out on the course and proceeded to shoot 73 today. 34 front/39 back. Won Low Gross in the competition today and was plus 6 on my points quota. One of my 3 birdies held up too. Was 71% on fairways hit with Driver today. and a couple of the misses were off by only 1 or two yards. On one of the par 5s, I used the three wood on my second shot and was over the green. That club is a good ten yards longer now than before. The same with the 5 hybrid. Went long on #15. 189 yards to the pin. Hit the green beyond the pin and rolled off the back. To say I’m impressed is an understatement. These shafts are Frickin’ Awesome! Can’t wait to play with them again tomorrow. Aestethics - 16 out of 20 These shafts are recognizable from a distance. TPT Golf’s entry into the golf shaft business as an outsider means they look at things a bit differently. They strike me as more of an engineering first type of place. The fact that paint on the exterior of the shaft adds a lot of weight to the final product with little to no performance value comes through in their design. The shaft has two coats of clear coat over the raw graphite that results in an understated matte finish overall with a bright yellow pop of graphic lettering near the handle. I do wonder how bag wear will affect the shaft over time. There is a bit of red lettering to identify the model and bend profile too. I like the look of it. But not everyone I’ve shown it to does. The Numbers - 19 out of 20 This is where the shafts distinguished themselves to me. The TPT Golf Power Range 17 HI shaft in my fairway wood was the standout. It made by favorite club even better increasing distance by 7% and dispersion got very tight. According to Arccos the TPT Power Range 17 LO shaft in my 5 hybrid has improved my distance by about 5% and my dispersion as well. The TPT Power Range 18 LO paired with my driver has improved my distance by 4%, fairway hit percentage has increased by 7% and Strokes gained driving has improved by .4 strokes. On the Course - 19 out of 20 Being able to play just about every day means these shafts have really gotten a workout on the course with several tournaments, a golf trip to Arizona, practice rounds and Men’s Golf Association competitions at my home course. Close to 20 rounds most of which were tracked by Arccos. The shafts have performed very well for me. The Power Range 18 LO in my driver was the star of the Arizona golf trip delivering my longest drives of the year, incredible fairways hit numbers and only two lost balls in four days. Here are a few of them: The Power Range 17 HI in my 3 wood has been so steady. Here are all of the shots with my 3 wood across a few rounds over a few days: My 5 hybrid has cemented itself as a reliable tee club on long par 3 and short par 4 holes. During one of my practice rounds I played from the senior tees and just used my 5 hybrid and 3 wood off the tee. Here are the results of that round: The Good, the Bad, the In Between - 7 out of 10 The best thing about the TPT Golf shafts are the quality, consistency and performance. These shafts help me to consistently hit the center of the face of the clubs they are paired with. The bad part is that these shafts aren’t that common. I suspect that most average golfers will not get to experience the benefits that these shafts have to offer unless they are committed to seek these shafts out during a comprehensive fitting and then be willing to pay the premium price that they rightfully command. Play it or Trade it - 19 out of 20 The TPT Golf Power Range 17 HI in my 3 wood is definitely a keeper. It has made my favorite club in the bag even better! The 17 LO in my hybrid will also be kept. However that club now might go too far. The yardage gapping between my 5 iron, 5 hybrid and 7 wood is now a little off. On a good swing day with my driver the Power Range 18 LO shaft is the best I’ve ever had. On a bad swing day it can still get me into trouble. No doubt I will be playing it though. Nice to know I have the 3 wood as my back up if I ever need it. Conclusion These shafts have performed very well for me and I like them a lot. After testing the different shafts I would agree that their claim of “3 shafts - 1 feel” is true. How do the shafts feel? The overriding feeling I get is smooth and very stable. The following picture sums up my experience: Three shots all hit in the same place. These shafts allow me to consistently hit the ball in the same place resulting in very tight dispersion. I heartily recommend the TPT Golf Power Range shafts, but I would not buy them blind. Try them as part of a comprehensive fitting. Grateful to have been a part of this fitting, testing and reviewing journey. Will gladly answer any questions forum members may have about these shafts and will be posting regular updates on their performance. Total Score = 90

A fitting allows you to rent the equipment, facilities and expertise of someone who has had training and observed countless golfers. The fitter will gather the data for you so you can just focus on the equipment which will help you to feel the differences between the various options. You’ll be able to try a bunch of stuff in one place at one time. The fitting though is just a snapshot of a few dozen swings on one day. Tinkering at home will not allow you to try as much stuff at one time and maybe also not be able to capture all the data. But you can take the equipment on the course over multiple days and multiple rounds which will give you different information and allow you to determine if the club does what you need it to and if you have confidence in it. There is value in both. I really have come to believe that one of the most valuable things to a golfer when buying new equipment is a playability guarantee. 30-90 days. The best are guarantees that if the new equipment doesn’t work for you during that time, bring it back for a credit towards something else.

I’m a subscriber to Russ Ryden’s golf shaft review site and have learned a lot from it. But, to get his software and the complete data set is quite a bit more expensive. He also is kind of streaky. Doesn’t post a ton of reviews and some shaft brands he doesn’t review at all. But it is better than most. Cool Clubs S3 Technology has great information that you used to could access but you can’t really get it anymore unless you are one of their clients.

Have been very interested in shaft EI curves for the past few years. Wanted to try and understand why certain shafts performed well for me. Also was trying to figure out why others did not work well despite manufacturer’s descriptions that indicated that they should have. Unfortunately the number of shaft manufacturers that provide EI charts to the public has shrunk. About, the only way to get much information now is to pay a fee to third party shaft reviewers/testers. The full data comes at a higher fee. For a dedicated fitting business the fees are justifiable. Not so much for an individual. The other problem with EI curves is that when they are published they rarely have the scale indicated and so it is hard to compare charts for two different shafts unless they are all shown together on the same graph. Which makes it hard to compare different manufacturer’s products. Even with better knowledge of what profile might work for me it is not foolproof. A fitting is a good way to narrow things down quickly but it is just a snapshot in time of a few dozen swings. The only way to know for sure is to actually hit it and see if it works over multiple rounds of golf for your swing and club delivery to deliver the optimal results, consistency and feel that you are looking for.

Play golf year round in Coastal Georgia. In the winter if it is below 60 degrees I play the Bridgestone Tour BRX ball and the rest of the year I play the Maxfli Tour ball. The Bridgestone ball is slightly softer so it feels a little better when it is cold out. It also spins less than the Maxfli Tour ball. So on my approach shots the Bridgestone Tour BRX ball goes further when it it is cold out which allows me to not have to club up. The Bridgestone ball does not check up as much as the Maxfli Tour ball around the greens and will roll out a bit more too. I used to play the Tour BRX year round until the Ping Ballnamic fitting tool suggested the Maxfli Tour ball to me and the reviews on MyGolfSpy gave me the confidence to try it.

Whatever the combination of Shaft, grip and head that creates the system defined by the total of static weight, balance point, swing weight, Center of Gravity Location and shaft bend profile that allows you the golfer to make your individual swing with all its good and bad qualities deliver the best results consistently is the best fit. A fitting is just a snapshot of maybe a few dozen swings on a particular day. The reality is you just don’t know what is going to work until you try it. Preferably on multiple courses over multiple days and in different conditions. That is why I believe a 30-90 day playability guarantee is probably worth quite a bit to a golfer when buying new equipment. Once you find a club that really performs well for you and you have confidence in it I would be very reluctant to change anything about it. Even changing to a different brand or size of grip can change the balance point and swing weight. However if there is a club in your bag that you are reluctant to hit even when the situation calls for it because you’ve lost confidence in it you should replace it. I frequently buy and sell golf equipment and components because I like to build clubs and tinker. Sometimes my friends will ask me to buy one of my clubs or shafts that didn’t fit me as well as I hoped. Whenever they ask to buy something I will tell them not to be in a hurry. Try it over several weeks and multiple rounds and if they still want to buy it, I’ll make them a good deal. If it doesn’t work just give it back. I can’t count how many of my friends and playing partners have clubs or shafts in their bag that should have worked for me but didn’t. My goal for 2024 is to have 14 clubs in my bag that I have complete confidence in. I feel that I’m very close and hope to figure out the rest soon.

I use the standard Orange Whip to warm up for my swing speed training and prior to playing golf. It is great for balance, swing sequence and tempo and to engage the bigger muscles due to it’s heavier weight. Full swings with maximum effort with the standard Orange Whip can be difficult for some due to the heavy mass of the head pulling them off balance. The Orange Whip GFX fitness program in conjunction with the Orange Peel, the foot straps and the Power bands has been very helpful to me.

I’ve got the Lightspeed and just about every other Orange Whip product. After my Stack System workout I make 5 step swings with the Lightspeed. My fastest swing with it is 129 MPH using the PRGR.

The Cobra Aerojet LS 9 degree driver has a very flat lie angle and is quite fade biased by design. Since you have lowered the loft via the hosel adapter you have also opened the face angle. The hosel adapter has a minus 1 draw setting that will change the lie angle to be more upright and is something to try as well if you haven’t already.

Did another return to form workout today. Making progress but still behind where I was.

After taking several weeks off due to some injuries I’ve done a couple of return to form workouts. It is surprising and disappointing how quick you lose the gains of the earlier training.

My results with the Graphite Design Tour AD shafts did not match up exactly with the charts referenced previously in the thread. But there was some correlation. For me here is what I found. Highest Flight - AD MT AD IZ AD DI AD TP AD UB Lowest Flight - AD VR Most Draw - VR, Most Fade - DI Best Feeling - DI & VR Harshest feeling - UB Playing the AD VR 6S currently in a Cobra LTDx LS 9 degree Driver set at -1. Had been playing the DI 6S in driver and the TP 8S in an LTDx 1 degree 7 wood, but sold both shafts to a friend and they are working well for him.

In the past year I’ve tried the Tour AD DI, IZ, VR, MT, TP and UB. All purchased second hand off EBay. The Tour AD DI 7S paired with a Cobra LTDx 15 degree 3 wood set at 16.5 is a match made in heaven for me. Best I’ve ever had. Dependable and great performance. It has literally changed my game. It is so good that it took me down the Graphite Design rabbit hole to try to achieve similar magic with my driver and my 7 wood. I’ve come close, but try as I might I haven’t been able to match the performance and consistency in any other club besides that one.

Had such a good time and talked it up to my friends at home that another friend of mine is interested in joining in. If he can make it, I will try to recruit a fourth too.

@Brother Daveand I are up for another golf roadtrip. Had a great time and enjoyed playing with everyone in Pinehurst. The 36 hole day definitely took a toll on us. Although most of the guys wanted to play their own ball on the last trip, maybe an optional 9 hole Shamble or Scramble replay would be fun. Would also be in favor of an optional Birdie or Skins pool. Thanks for doing the legwork.

Updated shaft chart for 2024

The Potential distance is based off of very generous assumptions. My on course distances are much less. For a variety of reasons. Generally I’m not swinging at Max level on the course. I play at sea level and our course has fairways that are pretty soft so there is not much roll. When I play in Wisconsin during the summer I typically gain 10 yards due to the change in elevation and course conditions. But my distance has increased on the course after starting with the Stack System. A good drive for me now is about 265. Before starting with the swing speed training it was about 245.

Back at it. Did my workout outside on the range before my round as my warmup. definitely prefer doing the swing speed training outside on grass instead of indoors.

After using the Stack System now for several months my recommendation is to start as soon as possible. I wish I had done this years ago when I first considered it. So far have gained 12 mph of swing speed. If anyone wants or needs a discount code let me know and I will send you the link.