Cashuss_K Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I’ll start with the “I believe I already know the answer, but want to see if you agree” statement. At my local Muni, there is a Par 5 where the tee shot is hit into a narrowing alleyway between a white stake OB on the left and Red stake Forrest on the right. The gravel cart path runs through the right red staked area just next the the fairway but is hidden/ blocked by a tree line and bushes. My buddy hits his tee shot and sprays it right just through the trees and into the Red stake hazard. He walks up to look for his ball and finds his ball in the middle of the cart path. tl;dr Do you get relief from a cart path if the cart path (and ball) is within a red staked area? Here’s the question to you all, in this instance, does he get free relief from the cart path? Quote Driver: XR XStiff 3wood: F8 XStiff Hybrid: GAPR, HZRDUS XStiff Irons: P770 (Old) XStiff Wedges: Vokey SM8 54, 58 Putter: Spider Interactive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, Cashuss_K said: I’ll start with the “I believe I already know the answer, but want to see if you agree” statement. At my local Muni, there is a Par 5 where the tee shot is hit into a narrowing alleyway between a white stake OB on the left and Red stake Forrest on the right. The gravel cart path runs through the right red staked area just next the the fairway but is hidden/ blocked by a tree line and bushes. My buddy hits his tee shot and sprays it right just through the trees and into the Red stake hazard. He walks up to look for his ball and finds his ball in the middle of the cart path. tl;dr Do you get relief from a cart path if the cart path (and ball) is within a red staked area? Here’s the question to you all, in this instance, does he get free relief from the cart path? Rule number 17.3: No Relief Under Other Rules for Your Ball in Penalty Area DaveP043 and Cashuss_K 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: XCG7 Beta 15* w/Fujikura Fuel Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashuss_K Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 17 hours ago, cnosil said: Rule number 17.3: No Relief Under Other Rules for Your Ball in Penalty Area Didn't know the specific rule, thank you. I know you cannot drop a ball into a Hazard and if he were to drop in play, that would be a stroke penalty. Luckily we were just playing for bragging rights, but it was still an odd situation that I hadn't ever come across before. Quote Driver: XR XStiff 3wood: F8 XStiff Hybrid: GAPR, HZRDUS XStiff Irons: P770 (Old) XStiff Wedges: Vokey SM8 54, 58 Putter: Spider Interactive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP043 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 @cnosil has it right, based on Rule 17 for Penalty Areas. To reinforce that, this is from 16.1a, discussing Relief from Abnormal Course Conditions (Including Immovable Obstructions): Quote There is no free relief from an abnormal course condition when the abnormal course condition is out of bounds or your ball is in a penalty area. cnosil 1 Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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