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How difficult is it to return the golf club at the same lie angle as it was at address?Only tour player who I could tell who did this was Ben Hogan.Even tour pros return the club with the shaft above the original start line.How was Hogan able to do this? Bubba Watson appears to be the highest above the start line that I’ve reviewed 

 

adding … would say this is the handle of the club at impact. Having it at same level at impact at address. Or above the starting point.Ben Hogan was the closest I’ve slow motioned to having same address and impact handle position DTL.Most, if not all current tour players raise it. Question is why ? And the driver is where it really shows the difference 

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You can’t return it because of droop.

as you mention the pros return the handle higehr than address so why would anyone try to return the shaft at the same angle if the best in the world aren’t.

The golfer isn’t in the same position at impact that they were at address. They are further into their lead side and the lead side is raising thru impact. Handle goes up and club face goes down.

 

Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

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Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

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1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

You can’t return it because of droop.

as you mention the pros return the handle higehr than address so why would anyone try to return the shaft at the same angle if the best in the world aren’t.

The golfer isn’t in the same position at impact that they were at address. They are further into their lead side and the lead side is raising thru impact. Handle goes up and club face goes down.

 

You mean handle lifted slightly, hands ahead, toe down slightly, square face . Is that what you call droop ?

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23 minutes ago, Goober said:

You mean handle lifted slightly, hands ahead, toe down slightly, square face . Is that what you call droop ?

No I’m talking about shaft droop. It’s the bending of the shaft near impact.

It’s a reason why determining lie angle is done dynamically and not just based of wrist to floor. Each shaft bends differently 

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Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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2 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

You can’t return it because of droop.

as you mention the pros return the handle higehr than address so why would anyone try to return the shaft at the same angle if the best in the world aren’t.

The golfer isn’t in the same position at impact that they were at address. They are further into their lead side and the lead side is raising thru impact. Handle goes up and club face goes down.

 

 

fascinating really. Why wedges and short irons tend to go left for people. And same person can miss mid and long shafted clubs right 

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52 minutes ago, Goober said:

 

fascinating really. Why wedges and short irons tend to go left for people. And same person can miss mid and long shafted clubs right 

Yep. Its why when people post and show their club soled flat or post talking about they don’t like seeing the toe in the air at address I already know they hate going to have issues with contact 

Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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