jonzo88

Haven't seen anything about them before, but after a quick bit of research I'd probably steer clear.. Seems to be one of the first Chinese direct manufacturers of launch monitors. They could be good? But I certainly wouldn't be the first to try it considering it says they're available "July 2023" and I saw in another forum that the release date kept getting moved back. I would guess that's why there aren't any real reviews yet as no one has one in their hand.
In my opinion you never want to be an early adopter. Let everyone else spend their money and work out the kinks for you first and then you can make an educated decision. But I have been wrong before!

I follow the LM market somewhat closely and this is the first I have heard on that’s one.  Will definitely do some research.

Nice to see many new international members joining!

Thanks Tony. Its great to be here 🙂 looking forward to hearing some great info you all have golf. 

Thanks Tony. Its great to be here 🙂 looking forward to hearing some great info you all have golf. 

Hi All, 
I recently got back to my golf after awhile away due to not having time to commit to my club membership. I recently (start of the year) decided to get the Shot Scope V3 watch and tracking tags. After using it for good few months now its been brilliant. Not for giving my yardage for each club (as I do that while i practice at the range) but for easy of use on the course and getting general range to the greens. Given that and considering how cheap it was i cant knock it. 
As some of you say being the average golfer and not a tour member its great for what we need and not extra subscription  makes its another fantastic purchase for myself.

Glad you found this useful. 
We try to keep it as updated as possible, but the core requirements remain the same year over year. We have just been fortunate this year with the number of tests and in truth the activity of the staff we are able to find a lot of newer members who are active in different areas. It has been great to get so many new member involved and see some truly stellar reviews. 

I know this if a few months old now but...
This is a great post to get a look into what is needed to be in the running to be selected. Even more so with being a new member and still figuring my way around.  I will surely check out the tester template for more insight.
Thanks for the tips:)

I know this if a few months old now but...
This is a great post to get a look into what is needed to be in the running to be selected. Even more so with being a new member and still figuring my way around.  I will surely check out the tester template for more insight.
Thanks for the tips:)

I know this if a few months old now but...
This is a great post to get a look into what is needed to be in the running to be selected. Even more so with being a new member and still figuring my way around.  I will surely check out the tester template for more insight.
Thanks for the tips:)

I know this if a few months old now but...
This is a great post to get a look into what is needed to be in the running to be selected. Even more so with being a new member and still figuring my way around.  I will surely check out the tester template for more insight.
Thanks for the tips:)

I know this if a few months old now but...
This is a great post to get a look into what is needed to be in the running to be selected. Even more so with being a new member and still figuring my way around.  I will surely check out the tester template for more insight.
Thanks for the tips:)

Hello all! (Apologies for how long this is, but I want to cover as much as I can)

As we approach the 2022 testing season it is a good idea for us as a mod staff and community to welcome all the incoming members and guide them in how to best improve everyones chances of becoming a MGS Community tester. 
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First please do NOT apply in this thread. It won’t help and any and all signups are done through the individual testing signups throughout the season.
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Also a few quick house keeping notes before getting into it.
- have questions about the process or anything that may have been left out? Just ask!
- As mods we try to be as transparent as we are allowed to be and won’t hide things from the community as we are members just like you!
- We hope to have a lot of new opportunities this year and encourage everyone to take a look at these pretty basic steps in order to better your chances.
- Don’t want to read through the thread? Check out the FAQ page 
 
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Okay! So a lot of this may be repeat and many of you will already know this, but here we go!

You must be a MGS Forum Member in order to be selected.
- Sounds pretty straight forward, but I ran some of the numbers and on average 90% of our signups are what I would classify as one off signups with 1 or fewer posts. Then if we look at those with 50 or more posts that number is only 2% of the overall signups.

Complete your profile!
- This includes a profile picture - this is one of the first things we look for with tester selections.
- Although the new Player Profile is not a requirement, it is high encouraged and will not only help us, but you and other members. For you, signups will be quicker as much of the info is pulled from your profile and for members it helps them see how their game relates to their own.

Get involved!
- I want to state that we actively work to get a well rounded group for all testing selections. This includes attempting to get at least one brand new tester per test as well as include international members as well.
- That being said, being active on the forum, creating new content for the community is huge. We want to make sure the OEM and community gets the best possible review (I mean completed, not good as in praise) and having a body of work even if minimal is important.
- Only ever involved in sign up testing threads? Not likely going to increase your chances. Just being honest, likely not going to happen.

Really want to stand out?
- Do a unofficial review! We may have more on this coming soon which will hopefully help our review catalogue, but having unofficial review gives us a insight as to what you are able to do! 
- Want to make it a more official unofficial review? Send us a PM and we can provide you with the template that is used for all the official reviews.
Do you have to be a donor?
- No, although being a donor can be used as a tie breaker it is not a necessity to become a tester. Not only that but we cannot see how much anyone has donated.
- While we are on this, if you have donated and don’t have the tag send myself (tag) a PM with your transaction number for it to be added.

That is the basics to becoming a tester. Pretty simple right? We don’t ask for much, but we do want to see these things in order to make our selections more trustworthy.

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Now all the other nuances

I believe it is important for us (mods) to be transparent about all of this as again we are members like you as I said.

So for those that don’t know or want a bit of a sneak peak of what happens behind closed doors… or computer screens let me do a bit of a run down for everyone.

Once a test is created everyone signs up and during this process we actively take a look at who has applied and create a short list. We are fortunate to have a wealth of info at our disposal to make this a robust list.

Examples? We look at recent activity, been a tester before? We look at your review(s) grades (more on this later), yes donor status, number of posts, number of reactions, location, handedness, and more.

As well the mods add in notes for thoughts on each member who has made a short list. We also look at what members have tested in the past. If you tested a set of irons the previous year, chances are we won’t look to do another iron selection for this year.

There is no limit to how many members we can have on a short list, it can be 5 or it can be 40. All depends on how everyone feels about the members who have applied.

We aim to have the short list completed within 2-3 days after the signup has closed. It is then roughly a week later that we want our 4 or however many testers are required to be selected and then announced before moving onto the next test.

In order for us to select someone for testing it needs the go ahead from at least 3 mods. This way no one mod can control or have bias towards certain testers.

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What happens after being selected?

- A group PM is made with the selected testers asking if they agree to completed and participate in the review process. We expected good efforts on all reviews and for members to follow the guidelines/templates and instructions from the mods during the process. It is perfectly okay for someone to back out. It happens, life happens and maybe the commitment is too much which again is perfectly okay! In that case we go back to our short list and grab someone else.|

- Remember reviews are work and not just winning a prize.

- After everyone has agreed to completing the review and participating we move onto the order process for the product (if fittings are required this can take a little longer) the order is placed through the mods and we wait for the product to arrive.

- During this time intros are worked on and when the product arrives unboxing/first impression posts are completed.

- After everyone has their kit we (mods and testers) discuss a timeframe for when reviews are to be completed (this was a complicated one last year with product wait times…)

- Final reviews are posted then as mods we have more work to do as reviews are graded. This is outlined in the templates for testers to see as well as what makes for a 1 out of 5 and 5 out of 5 and everything inbetween.

- These grades are REALLY important. As if someone bails on a review, it is good luck getting in on another review. We take pride in these reviews and our selections and being ghosted or having someone take zero effort is really disappointing.

- For reference we understand life happens and there can be situations that cause someone to have a review completed late or something come up which make it harder to do the review and are of course lenient. I will send several follow up messages for those that are late in posting or gone mia, but after a few of those I will record it in our overall record that said member has gone mia and should not be considered for further reviews. 
Review grades are used for future selections. Good review scores better a testers chances at another review in a following year where poor reviews lesson those chances. So as a first time tester it is certainly best to do the work and get in a good review IF you want to better your chances next year.
We do our best as a mod team to promote and create engagement within each review thread (last year with the new system was tough we all know), but in the end it is a lot on the testers to put out updates during their review to bring eyes to the thread.

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Finally a few general rules of thumb

- Testers are generally only selected for one test per season. Exception being a Golf Ball test or lesser valued items.
- Brand new testers are often selected for lower valued items, like golf balls. However this is not exclusive. Example I was selected for Ping i210 irons with my first ever review. Again it is a general guideline and a first time tester who has put out good content to the community can of course be selected for a higher valued item.
- Testers are generally not selected for the same equipment type year over year. Meaning tested a driver last year? More likely you won’t get a driver test again this season. Again general rule as sometimes it is interesting to see someone test the progress of a product year over year. 
Apply for what you WANT to test. Of course you can apply for everything and anything, but truly it is best to apply for a product that excites you. It is pretty easy for us to notice the same name applying in testing for every single test even when they are currently testing a product! 
Most importantly, enjoy the experience, have fun with it and ask questions. Be creative and although there is a template do what you can within those guidelines and make a unique review that will be remembered.

Finally follow up is encouraged, whether it be with the mods or in the testing thread it is noticed and very much encouraged as members are often still curious about what is going on. 

For those that made it ALL the way down here, well done. Seriously. Have more questions just ask away!

Hi All, 
I recently got back to my golf after awhile away due to not having time to commit to my club membership. I recently (start of the year) decided to get the Shot Scope V3 watch and tracking tags. After using it for good few months now its been brilliant. Not for giving my yardage for each club (as I do that while i practice at the range) but for easy of use on the course and getting general range to the greens. Given that and considering how cheap it was i cant knock it. 
As some of you say being the average golfer and not a tour member its great for what we need and not extra subscription  makes its another fantastic purchase for myself.

Cheers for that help guys. more research to be done. I recently bought a tripod to record my practice at home in the net to see me swing and that alone has been a game changer for me, so i know tho plus a LM will be next level. 

Cheers for that help guys. more research to be done. I recently bought a tripod to record my practice at home in the net to see me swing and that alone has been a game changer for me, so i know tho plus a LM will be next level. 

Cheers for that help guys. more research to be done. I recently bought a tripod to record my practice at home in the net to see me swing and that alone has been a game changer for me, so i know tho plus a LM will be next level. 

Hi All, 
New to the forum. Still working out how this works.
I am in the market to invest in my first launch monitor, I wondered if you guys/girls have any recommendations on entry level that are fairly accurate in numbers to get practice in at home/range. 
I personal had the Voice caddie SC4 in mind but what your guys opinion? Also why is the optishot  version £200/$200 more?
Cheers all.

I have very limited space in my garage…..8ft ceilings single stall garage width (wife’s vehicle is in the other one).  Which does not allow me to swing all of my clubs. I can get up to my 5w but that’s about it. However I did not let that stop me from setting up a hitting area in that space. I have used both the Rapsodo MLM original and the Swing Caddie 300i. Loved the features that the Rapsodo had but sessions were limited to the battery life of the iSO device required to use it. The 300i has a 20+ hour battery life but does not carry as many features. The biggest downfall of the 300i for me is the lack of directional path. The Rapsodo uses an algorithm like most indoor budget LMs do but it at least gives you an idea of how far off the centerline your ball is traveling. I mainly use my set up to map my club distances and for developing a consistent swing, so both LMs worked perfectly for that. I normally work on directional issues outside on the range. Each also has a very good app associated that can give more swing data and data storage for future reference and to see trends. 
 
Both can be used indoor or outdoor. The 300i worked better in the outdoor category fore me simply because of ease of use. You simply turn it on set it up behind you and start to swing. The 300i also comes with a remote that lets you change clubs without having to mess with the device. I would have it in my pocket and cycle through my bag while never having to touch or walk back to the monitor. However, the shot tracer function on the Rapsodo was super cool!
But really it’s all about how much you are wanting to invest and what types of Dara you are looking to get. If you really want to dive into dissecting your swing data then the $$$ models are where you want to be looking. If you are more concerned about dialing in yardages then save yourself some money and look at the lower tier ones. 

I would recommend a used mevo plus, its a really accurate unit for the price and is great outdoors as well as indoors if setup correctly. There are also a TON of them out there and people upgrade from them all the time. I would think ebay might be your best bet, or there are a few on 2nd swing for a decent price: https://www.2ndswing.com/accessories/launch-monitors/flightscope-mevo-plus-launch-monitor
One thing to look out for... Mevo plus comes with a free limited E6 connect subscription with access to a range and a few courses you can play. If you are buying used, some people setup an email specifically to be used for their Mevo that they can give you the login for. If they don't include this, you will not have access to the E6 connect subscription. You would only have access to the flightscope specific apps that would include a range and some target games. 

My Swing Caddie is a factory refurbished model. Got a great deal on it and have no issues whatsoever so far after over a year and a half of using. Plus you could look at some sites that sale open box returns. Can usually snag those for a good price. 

Thanks Tony. Its great to be here 🙂 looking forward to hearing some great info you all have golf. 

I must admit, it hasnt crossed my mind to look at second hand ones so this is something I will have to look at. It would be a bonus to get my hands on a better unit if it comes in my price range. 
Here in the UK I havent heard of any second hand sellers. So I'll have to look into that. If you guys know of any websites that ship worldwide for second hand kits I would greatly appreciate it.
I can live without a putting option as for me I like to work on that on the course and over the winter months I tend to practice on my stroke at home.

I use mine mostly as an indoor simulator. The Mevo is very sensitive to how you have it setup and the ball tracking is not quite as accurate as the camera based Bushnell. The Bushnell setup take a couple seconds and is much more accurate. The biggest reason for the upgrade was short chipping and putting. With the Mevo you really can't putt at all and the short chipping was questionable at best. With that being said, the Mevo was very accurate on any full swing shots and is a VERY good launch monitor for the price.
Back to my first point as to spending a little bit more money from the start... I told myself I would be happy with full shots only with the Mevo, and I was for a while. I haven't looked into launch monitors in the price range of the SC4 for a little while, but if there is something that checks all the boxes for you that is maybe a couple hundred dollars more I would say go for it. If you had any interest in indoor simulation, my advice is that the most budget launch monitor someone should get is the Mevo plus or a Skytrak. I could start a whole topic on why I think the mevo is better than the skytrak, but I digress...

Buying a used unit is a great point as well. There are ALWAYS people upgrading to the next thing and you can often find an awesome unit for a decent price. If you want to use it outdoors, I'd steer clear of Skytrak units because I believe they are temperamental in the sunlight.