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I didn't miss the joke, but it looks like it got embellished even more in your quote

@golfspy_mpr. Good start, will be interesting to read you progress to see how if leads to improvement or if you just end up Chasing numbers by doing the DIY approach. I am pull for the improvements

Scanned the articles and the are not banning green reading books. They are banning the detailed topographical maps. They even mention someone like Phil being in a better position since he has more significant notes on the greens than Brysons 4 years worth. It will potentially be a topic, but I don’t think it will be much of an influence. Take the players notes away and force them to read the putt on the spot and then there might be something.

Try to go the opposite and don’t worry about going long and consider going less lofted that the 54.

Don’t ignore the used market to save some money.

Why do you think Bryson won’t have a green book? They will spend time practicing, walking the greens, and probably practice rounds prior to the tournament.

When you are making good contact and the ball ends up short, did you make the swing you wanted and did the ball do what you expected? What club are you using for those shots? I know I am working hard to make longer swings for my distance wedges to get the ball to go farther. I have also switched to lower lofted clubs to get more rollout.

Glad to hear that the news has been good

Interesting reading everyone’s strategy. Basically a few ways to control distance - change the length of the club, change the length of the swing, or change the speed using a full swing. My follow on would be do you control distance with you full swing and distance wedges the same way?

I do too; I reference it for all shots. Just measure the distance, make adjustments based on conditions, pull the chart out of my pocket, and then select a club. I’ve changed my approach to the partial wedges based on lesson so I need to build a new one. I’ll probably do more partial shots when I redo the chart I’m the next month or so.

In my honest opinion the product will do everything it advertises. The issues isn’t about whether the product works but whether you can saw the lines and interpret what is going on. If you work with a coach it may be a good tool to help you check positions they have told you to get in or to capture video to send them. I didn’t read the details but generally these cameras have an advantage over phones in that you can capture single swings without having to walk to the phone or that you don’t have to build a stand to get them in the right position. Positioning is key and if in the wrong spot it throws if the perspective and lines that you draw.

It will still take a while to get over the time change.[emoji2957]. I personally think that early November is too optimistic to believe it will be better.

Not off topic at all. I am doing the same thing. My doubles come from having multiple pitch/chips on the same hole. This is why I was told to use 9 iron as much as possible when around the green; the exception being when it really isn’t practical. Basically if I hit a bad shot the hope is that it isn’t too bad. The strategy has worked the past couple of rounds as I have avoided the double pitch. Still hitting some bad ones but I am getting on the green.

Knowing your distances is key as well as knowing dispersion patterns and being able to make good contact. I know and understand these things and can do them in controlled environments. The problem is the bad shot that happens on the course. When we hit that shot when getting fitted or calculating distances we call It an outlier and delete it. On the course it still counts. I carry this in my pocket for distance references. I need to update it based on swing improvements and new clubs.

And this is another issue...terminology. The ping app doesn’t measure the path on which the putter travels which is the normal definition for arc. The ping app measures putter head rotation.

The simple answer is Covid and that nothing is like it has been in the past. Suppliers of raw components provide dates and based on those dates other dates are generated. When the first date shifts all the others do. The potential issue with not offering things for sale if they aren’t available is that people will go elsewhere or it come back and purchase. You bought and are not asking for a refund; win for supplier. They hope most people do that. Not saying that I agree but companies need sales to stay in business and shutting down won’t be an option.

I don’t think that is what@Haro is describing. The method you describe still has a single aimpoint that happens to be on the zero break or fall line. Unlike aimpoint the point you are aiming to is on that line. This is what Geoff magnum taught and was the method used in Vector Green Reading. Aimpoint users a point left or right of the hole that generally doesn’t like on the fall line. Subtle differences but different approaches. @Haro is indicating he wants to see curved lines and does on right to left putts. On left to right he has to visualize 2 straight lines; one that goes from ball to apex and one that goes from apex to hole. These are two different green reading approaches.

Been a bit slack in my practice; lazy and weather. I need to get some video of my short game swing to send to my coach. Been getting a little full swing work in as part of most wanted testing. I have adjusted my setup to get my path a bit more neutral. Have moved from the 6 degree range to about 3 degrees. Face control is better as well. Seems to be paying off as I have hit a few more greens and have had less offline approaches the past couple of weeks. The nice thing about better approach shots it that it takes pressure off the short game. Instead of the 30y pitches due to fat shots, I am hitting shots from more around the green and can use 9 irons to have a shorter more controlled swing. Wrapping up most wanted testing for the year on Wednesday so I will try and go in and do some intense short game work.

Probably a lot. putter fitting is a strange thing and people get really tied to putters. They will agree that full swing and wedges need fitting but disagree with the putter. I just like you have the face a bit open at impact. Some great putters are feel players and knowing the details of their stroke would mess with their head. Ben Crenshaw never wanted to be fit for a putter or know his "numbers" and he was a decent putter.

Heard about this and yes, I do this occasionally but not always as effective as I would like. I am also choking down on my short irons for pitches and chips to try and get more control.

Okay then just switch to one of the others in your closet.

People who say they are SBST most likely have a slight arc since SBST is almost impossible without manipulation. I have a left biased stroke (what you call a “cut”) and it has an arc. You can also be biased to the right. Additionally I would bet that some of those not fitted follow the mentality that the are “feel” players and that a fitting would mess them up.

If it were just spending time playing/talking golf and not lessons then playing/talking everytime. I love volunteering as a standard bearer or walking scorer at professional tournaments which has allowed me to spend lots of time on the course with the pros (Symetra, LPGA, and Senior PGA) and just talking to them and their caddies is a blast. During on the the Symetra rounds we drove carts and one of the players instructors rode with me and i got to hear amazing insight into the golf swing and what he saw from the pros in the group I was scoring. The concern about an hour lesson would be how much would I actually get out if the lesson. Probably wouldn’t change much of anything other than a small Tweak.

I am going with the coach. I would say they are better equipped to communicate with you. Just because you are good at something doesn’t mean you can teach some how to do that thing.

I’ll go a little down the mike Adams teaching route on this. Power is generated via a combination of vertical, lateral, and rotation forces. Depending on which on you use more is based on your swing dynamics. Bryson and JT/Bubba simply swing the club differently. Just guessing but JT would rely on vertical forces more that Bryson who is more rotational.