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Forgot to turn mine off this afternoon. My wife needed me to help her, came back and everything was off I was at 371 and going strong.

You have some valid points, but that is also why we are testing the system. Yes, you have to calibrate yourself to a green prior to playing but that calibration is typically done on flat putts against a known baseline. Given the right tools, I think people underestimate the value of indoor training and claim that practice must be done outdoors.

Actually The answer to that is no. The two pings I got about 2 weeks ago; they were my father in-laws. Will probably only use them for this testing. Not really worth much for trade in. The Bobby Grace was purchased because I really wanted to make it easier to hold the face open to eliminate left my miss. The Taylormade spent a lot of time in my bag; it was an inexpensive putter that matched the parameters my putting instructor said I needed. The Evnroll was acquired because I wanted to see how it would perform. Doesn’t really match my stroke and has just been sitting in the bag for a while. The Odyssey is my current gamer and I plan to keep it in the bag. I wanted a mallet with toe hang. After rolling the putters in this years most wanted testing it was one of my favorites. Not really a lot of putters, but they were all obtained for a particular design characteristic and to match up what I was trying to do with my stroke.

I have a variety of putters that I plan on running through to see how the system responds. I don't have anything that is 100% black (has a face insert) but the Ping Cushin is dark. Also going to test various ball colors.

You are correct, calculating it for putting Isn’t that difficult and my saying to forget about it was probably too extreme. What it does provide is realism to the data. To many people think they should make all their 10’ putts and claim they are terrible putters.

I think that this is because people aren’t upfront during the initial questioning. If you tell them you don’t want to venture into the exotic shaft realm you don’t have too. I was fit into KBS Tour 120 Shafts which is a no cost upgrade for basically every manufacturer.

This mat has been getting a lot of attention recently. Please follow up with your thoughts and how it translates to the course.

Putting is one area of the game that amateurs can equal a pros performance. We should strive to never miss inside if 3 feet, maximize opportunities between 3 and 15 feet, and never be outside a 6 foot diameter circle for anything outside of that. If you can accomplish those things you WILL gain strokes I’ve seen this video a couple of times but shows that being short of the hole isn’t bad, even pros don’t really state facts, and they gain and lose stroke putting. When comparing SG numbers, the farther you are from the hole the “easier” it is to gain strokes. From 1” no one will likely ever gain anything. From 10’ you might gain a small amount. If You are 450 yards away and can out drive you opponent by 100 yards the SG potential is huge. Basically, you can’t neglect any area of you game, but you can easily lose strokes on the green with poor putting. I would suggest forgetting about SG for putting and working on speed control and startline to ensure you do no worse than 2 putt on any green.

I am not sure about these specific shafts but based on my current research manufacturers are making graphite shafts that match steel SW at the same length.

Yes, changing lie angle does have a small influence on SW. flattery will increase SW.

That is what I was going to mess around with next time I set it up. I am guessing that it isn't about how much light is in the room but how much is on the mat. Having enough light on the mat enables the camera can see the various marks.

I am sure @Golfspy_CG2 will be mad at me because I didn't include any photos in this intro, but its purpose is to get to know me and my initial impressions. Trust me there will be lots of photos and videos in the near future. About Me: To get started, my name is Chris and I am a recovering putter ho. I’ve been playing golf off and on since my early teens and weekly since the 90s. When I got serious about golf the putter became my favorite club. I never had a large collection of putters (10 is probably the most I have owned at one time) but have gone through a variety of putters through the years. In 2011 I found a putting specific instructor on another golf forum and have been working with him since that point in time. He taught me all about the putting stroke and how it works and I use the guidance he provided to target specific putter specifications when I am purchasing new putters. For those that don’t know I have been one of the testers for MyGolfSpy’s Most Wanted testing. I typically participate in almost all of the club tests but I really like the blade and mallet putter tests. Outside of my interest in golf, one of the things that I think qualifies me for this testing is my occupation; I am involved in software testing. My Golf Game: At my best I was playing to a 4 handicap but over the past few years my handicap has been going the wrong way. I do consider putting one of my strengths but can have some bad streaks. I practice putting a lot. Most evenings when watching television, I setup some gates or putt down a yardstick to work on matching up path and face angle. Since I can’t roll long putts in the house and Most Wanted Testing only goes to 20’ my weakness is lag putting; specifically, 30’+ is my problem area. I haven’t tracked my putting in a while, but when I did, I averaged about 31 putts per round. I will be evaluating my improvement based on 3 putt avoidance and how I perform in the 5-15 foot range. My current putter is an Odyssey Ten S but as part of this test I will include an EvnRoll 2.2, Bobby Grace 6330, and a couple of old ping putters. First Impressions: This is typically where you start to see photos of the product but since a new review template was developed we have already started dropping some info about the product and photos….so no photos or videos here (:, but there will be lots more as we go through test. I had heard of the product prior to its being offered for testing and since I love putting, I knew I wanted to apply. After being selected, we received the product within days of providing our mailing information. Packaging: The product came in an ExPutt branded cardboard box containing 2 boxes for the product. The first being the putting mat and carry bag. The second contained the camera, cables, mounting accessories, remote, face stickers, and user manual. Overall a professionally packaged product that would survive some bouncing around Setup: Setup is very straight forward, hook up some cables, roll out the mat, turn it on and start practicing. Time from box to working is less than 5 minutes. The quick setup is advantageous since I put the product away after use. I have tried various size TVs and all generally work; the only issue is that you may have to change the HDMI mode to get the extreme left and right screen edges to be visible. Some of my TVs don’t have this feature and while a minor inconvenience my OCD makes it bothersome. The camera can be attached to the TV or can use the included stand. I personally needed to move a second TV into my Den since I like to watch TV while I practice putting. Product Quality: All the components appear to be high quality. The mat is thick and is a rubber type material One minor complaint is that it seems to attract pet hair as mine stays covered. Fortunately, lint rollers work well to remove. Portability: While I would say the product is portable (the shipping box is 11.5x16x6) is isn’t something you just put in your carry-on to take with you on an airplane. Measured Data: when putting on the mat, there is an outlined area to place the ball. Once the ball has been struck the system will provide putter path, face angle, ball speed, and launch direction. Pretty basic information but should be adequate enough to personally analyze your putting stroke. Modes of Operation: there are three modes of operation that will be covered as we progress through the testing process Practice – straight putts to holes of between 5 and 50 feet. I foresee this will be where I would spend most of my time. Challenge – scored performance on greens with various slopes. Play – Play against your friends. Unfortunately, no online play mode. General Comments: We have had the product for about a week and while I haven’t gotten too deep into testing my initial impressions are favorable. Some things of note: Lighting – this aspect of the product appears to be crucial and in low lighting conditions, the system will struggle to capture ball data and club data even with the provided face stickers. I need to do more investigation to determine if providing direct lighting to the mat will improve this. Balls – Ball selection does have an impact especially color. The user manual states that you should use a clean white ball; but some of us don’t read the manual so I tried a variety of colors and finishes. Dark matte balls and truvis balls seem to be susceptible to not being read after being hit. Measurements – While the measurements seem to be accurate, I believe there is too much weight for face angle. From what I have read in documentation from putting gurus is that the face angle at impact has and 80-85% include on direction and the putters path the remainder. When I did the calculations of launch angle, it looks like the face angle has a 95% influence on direction. For a player that struggles to have consistent path, this may impact on course performance.

I ma probably in a little different situation than most with the equipment that I have access to. Being one of the most wanted testers, I have access (pre COVID and now just a bit more limited) to all the equipment that is sent in for testing as well as a GC Quad. This allows me to compare equipment and ensure my gapping is correct. I believe I am capable of fitting myself but not the way the real manufacturer agnostic companies can since I can't swap shafts as easily especially in irons. That said, I can probably fit myself through an entire bag as a DIY .

more than likely it will impact performance.

Been testing out graphite iron shafts. Have found a few to try while I was doing most wanted testing; still want to try a few more but have learned 95gr-105gr is probably a good spot to target weight wise. So far I have tried: Mitsubishi MMT KBS TGI Fujikura Ventus Fujikura Pro Honma Vizard Fujikura Pro's are my favorite so far but the others were a in the 70 gr range while the Fujikura Pro's were 95 gr. Graphite will eventually be in my irons but I am not in a hurry and will be enjoying the quest to find the right ones.

I like digging into the data so the Puttlab reports are nice. If You don’t want to know all the data that is fine as well. The general idea that most putting gurus state is that if you can start your ball on your intended line and can control speed then your putter is fine.

Adding to the above comment above. Even if you don’t leave it setup all the time; I don’t, you can be up and running in minutes.

Stroke type is overhyped as a fitting variable. All strokes arc and the arc is dependent on things like how far you stand from the ball and how you power the putting stroke. The ping app measures rotation so even it doesn’t report on your path/arc Your setup determines length. Loft is best with a measurement done on Quintic or Puttlab. If you want a good fitting you can also look at Edel. Their approach is comprehensive but it fits you into their brand and. It all their options are available with other OEMs. In summary find a person knowledgeable in putter fittings that uses something like puttlab, Quintic or Capto

You have to train yourself to establish the correct targets. You need to establish distances where you aim for center or aim for front/back, or aim for pin. If that strategy is how the best in the world play then it should be good enough for you. Koepka won some Tournaments with this approach.

Your best option for higher flight is more loft at impact. Club loft and angle of attack are primary areas to look. Depending on swing speed ball spin helps. Shafts are a different animal and just because a shaft is low/low doesnt mean it won’t produce a high flight. It comes down to how you react to the feel of the club.

The mat never really concerned me since most of my at home practice is withing that distance anyway (yardstick, and gates for startline). The whole concept just makes sense; the camera measures that roll on the mat and calculates speed, direction, watches the putter and captures path. It really is just a big math problem; I'll post some more about that later.

HIT TO THE CENTER OF THE GREEN!!!!

Just posted in the ExPutt thread, but they had a bit of work left.

Well, I am sure one of the questions on everyone's mind is does the ExPutt practice translate to the course. Here are some initial thoughts on my on course putting over my normal weekend round and 9 hole league round. Right now my summary would be that I am in the middle of taking lessons and some things with my putting just aren't working right but I am trying to get through them. My typical struggle is longer putts 30'+ and leaving the ball short and over those 27 holes I have had a few putts greater than 30'. With the Exputt I have been practicing using a green speed of 9 which seems to translate pretty well on the practice green. Today I was rolling all kinds of long breaking putts within 3 feet of the hole. Unfortunately I haven't been able to get that to translate to the course. Over those 27 holes I have had 9 putts of 27' or more and have 3 putted 6 of them. While that sounds horrible, I am still encouraged because the putts are going past the hole by 5 or more feet and most have been downhill. The reason that I feel like I am in the middle of lessons is because I am training new distance feels which has impacted tempo and stroke. Right now I am optimistic that the distance putting will get better. Another think that I want to do is go measure the practice greens on a few local courses to see what speed they are rolling. Obviously, we are just at the beginning of this experiment so come back for more updates.

I haven't yet, but it is part of my plan to run through all of my putters. Partially to compare how they work and partially because they are different colors and I want to see how well the system handles the colors and inserts. the system provided ball speed/distance, path, face angle at impact, and launch direction.