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I played another 18 today(weather was 58* but a little windy..got to play when you can). I won't belabor with a blow by blow just that everything I have said before about these shafts still hold true, especially the high launch. The fairways were almost worthless to hit off of(bare dormant ground) so hitting them from the rough is a plus and that's where I got the high launch from. These launch every bit and then some as compared to my MMT shafts. At 68.5 grams, to launch this high and be stable is an accomplishment. Even for slow swingers like myself, these shafts deliver the flex and kick while still maintaining the timing and accuracy of my shots. If anyone is looking to re-shaft irons and want a high stable launch, it would be a mistake not to look at the Zelos 6 shafts. I checked Golfworks and the Zelos prices are in line with Nippon's other NS Pro shafts.

I'm going to turn this around a bit and not make it about stronger lofts, but is it HARDER to hit stronger lofted irons than the standard loft? I'm thinking that it is. If my loft for a 7i is 31* it's almost a club drop for a game improvement stronger lofted iron, and no matter how much I like the irons if my weakness is long irons then certainly a lot of the newer game improvements irons would not be a benefit. I do though understand the benefit and tech of game improvement irons but is the tech enough to overcome my long iron weakness?

I wound up playing 27 holes within the past 2 days. One was a scramble and the other was just 9 holes. During the scramble, the majority of shots were 7i on down. I hit maybe one 6i and and 2 5i shots. I'm still amazed on how stable the long irons are. Ever though I play to an R flex, I was really swinging hard just to see if they would flex too much and caused me to slice, they didn't! With the short irons, it was just high and straight. Now I'm not a big worker of the ball so I don't know how they will be if your trying to fade or draw the ball. If you prize your shots to be straight and high launch, I would without a doubt recommend these shafts. These work great in the CF16 head, but I don't know if they will respond the same in another head, I guess a fitter would know a whole more. One other thing that I've noticed is that you can actually feel the head as you swing through the ball. I know that with graphite shafts it feels like your swinging a shaft and that's about it. With the Zelos 6, the shafts is light enough but you can still feel what's on the end of the stick and through the shot. The only thing that I can be critical of is whether or not how these shafts would be towards my elbow. I went to graphite from steel because of elbow issues but I haven't played these long enough to gauge any type of difference. Since I don't have access to a good launch monitor like a Foresight, I will continue to play these clubs on our dormant course with bare spots, and give you as much information as I can as to the performance of these shafts. I will also be letting my playing buddies use my clubs and I will pass on down their likes and dislikes. One last thing, if these are as good as they are now, I can imagine what they would feel like hitting off of actual grass. I'll find out in Florida in March!

Played 9 again today...very crowded and had commitments so no 18 today but will get 18 in tomorrow. This is kind of like a rinse and repeat from my first testing. These shafts play solid almost to the point of me asking myself why did I go with steelfibers if these are so easy to hit? Just getting a nice high flight, no distance lost maybe even a slight gain, along with a good feel. It was very windy today so I didn't have my best swing or accuracy with them. I let my buddie hit a couple. He plays to a 20 hdcp. I thought that he would have issues hitting my irons(CF16) which were smaller than his Mavrik Max with graphite shafts. To my surprise he hit them dead square turned around and said hey, these feel just like my clubs! He said that other than the different looks of the club heads, he couldn't tell the different between the feel/flight between his clubs and mine. On to 18 tomorrow.

I can't speak for ZMendle10, but as for me it was a one to one replacement. My steelfiber shafts that were taken out of my CF16's were SW at D1. The Zelos 6 irons were installed by Nippon without grips, I had a buddy install grips (GP MCC+4) he had no way of checking the SW so they are as they are.

For me, I could tell during the transition that the shaft had some flex compared to my steelfibers, but in all honesty, swinging through the ball I really couldn't tell that much difference between the Zelos 6 and my steelfibers.

That would be driver SS. I didn't mention this in my write up, but one of the guys I played with hit my 9i and he plays a R+ shaft in his irons and he said that he loved the feel of the shafts. Hit them a few times all dead straight and high. To be honest, I really don't know that much about shafts, the different profiles and such. I mean if you game me an X flex vs a R flex I would know, but I'm not that sensitive to all of the different changes and profiles because my game is not that consistent. I took out my steelfiber shafts and put the Zelos 6 in their place and I won't change them out after my first outing, that's how sure I am about these. Now will these shafts he better than the Zelos 8, I don't know, but what I do know is that the Zelos 6 shafts like to be hit firmly. One other thing, I hit a few thin shots the other day and never got any shaft vibrations...definitely felt it in the head but not the shaft.

Well I couldn't wait any longer. Yes it was cold (44*) but the sun was shinning bright and the fairways were dormant and bare in a few spots, but I really didn't care. Played a quick 9 holes with my buddies, I told them I was testing out some new shafts and gave them a brief rundown on them. I came from steelfiber shafts 70i, and liked how they felt. My first few shots with the new shafts installed in place f my steelfiber, were not very good. I was a new feel and a very light feel, something I wasn't used too. I will say that towards the end of the round I was getting used to the feel and lightness of the shafts. I was slowing down my swing to match the shafts but in reality I didn't have too. So the final three holes, I swung like I had my steelfiber shafts in and these things didn't miss a beat. They are a high launching shaft but they are also very stable. My SS in in the low 80's, but I didn't have any slice issues with the shafts like you would with flexible graphite shafts. These shafts love to be swung hard and direct at the pin. I didn't loose any balls or hit any OB shots. We're going to get out Sunday for a full round, and then I'll be able to give more information. So far, they are a BIG surprise. They feel good, you don't have slow your swing down to get these to work, and they're accurate. We'll see what Sunday brings.

I Had my CF16 steelfiber shafts replaced with the Zelos 6 shaft. The steelfiber i70 shafts fit my swing better because I like a higher ball flight and the other steelfiber shafts didn't give me the height that I wanted. I had Recoils in before the steelfibers, and they were OK, but I wanted a little more firmness in the tip without going stiffer in flex. My SS is in the low 80's (82-83). So I thought that the Zelos 6 would be a perfect choice to test. Unfortunately, we are having a cold freeze setting in so my time to play is limited for a week or so. I will be checking in with my thoughts on the performance of these shafts. Doing a quick swing just to get the feeling, I'm thinking that these will be right in my wheelhouse. I will also be lending my clubs to a few of my buddies who have a higher SS than I do to see how they feel about the shafts. Those who have a SS close to mine, stay tuned for my takes on the Zelos 6 shaft, it will be interesting. I will be posting when weather permits for a few months and will be taking these with me when I play in Florida during March. I would like to thank Nippon and My Golf Spy(MGS) for giving me the opportunity to test these shafts out.

I am the tester for the Zelos 6 shaft. The guy from Green Grass Clubfitting on Roosevelt Rd. did mine and I assume it's the Nippon shaftology center. The person I worked with who did my shaft replacement was Mark, great guy and very knowledgeable. He replaced my steelfiber shafts in my Callaway CF16 irons and put in the Zelos 6...did a great job in keeping the replacements in one piece and sending them back.

Yep, those are the worst kind of guys to play against. We had a 3 some once on a out of town course and a fourth was put in with us...a senior!! Never drove the ball past 170, hit his irons arrow straight and he could putt. I got tired of saying nice shot!!

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I always found that MGS was a call them like you see them type of test. Too many time I have seen nothing but glowing remarks about a product only to know that they were the "featured" OEM of the month. When their time passes, the next OEM will get all of the glowing comments and how fantastic the product is. I for one feel the the reviews here are informative as well as complimentary.

[placeholder] First off I want to thank MGS and Nippon for giving me the opportunity to test the Zelos 6, the worlds lightest steel golf shaft. This shaft fit into my wheelhouse and frankly I’ve learned a lot about these shafts in the time I’ve had them out on the course. I really can’t believe how light they are and how they are so stable. These shafts are very comparable to graphite but with a lot more stability. I will try and give you my best possible review of these shafts. As usual, if there are any questions about the Zelos 6 shaft please ask. I had high hopes in getting a full review in with some launch monitor data, but around here they are closed, so instead of delaying this repost any longer, I thought I would post it as is and put in any data from actual golf experiences. On course data will also be somewhat limited because of the dormant grass and quit a few bare areas where you really can’t get the full benefit of an iron just because of the lie. My clubs that were re-shafted were Callaway CF16. I was fit in them with the Steelfiber i70 shafts. My driver SS is in the low 80’s(82-83) so I don’t generate much speed as compared to some on here. My HDCP. is a little over 14 at the current time and it generally stays there. It might shift a little lower during the summer months. My typical ball flight is high and I usually don’t work the ball. Looks: (9 out of 10) It’s a steel shaft with blue lettering that I had installed down so I wouldn’t have to look at it during address. The shafts don’t have a label like TT puts on their shaft but the blue is painted on like their NS Pro models and looks really good Feel: (9 out of 10) When you waggle the club, there is flex, a lot more than my steelfiber had so at first I was concerned. I thought wow this is not what I was looking for. It felt kind of whippy, but I could still feel the clubhead during my swing. Maybe the Zelos 6 wasn’t made for me, but oh well, I had them re-shafted so let’s see what happens. Basic Characteristics (INC) I could not get use of a launch monitor due to closures. On Course (10-10) To my surprise, on course my first swing produced a high shot that went straight (I actually launched a junk ball because I was curious). My first full swing with the irons was a 160 yd 7 iron shot that went straight and high. I was surprised again. Subsequent swings produced essentially the same type of shot, high and straight. That didn’t surprised me as much as the fact the with that much flex in the club, I didn’t slice. I expected it to slice, but it just produced a straight shot that I could harder at. This shaft fit me better than my Steelfiber which surprised me more than me not slicing the ball. I did take these out on the course(if you want to call it that since everything was dormant and bare). You will find my results written up in these review pages. Play it or Trade it (10-10) PLAY IT. These are in my CF16’s and will stay there. Again I was lucky enough to be picked to test the Zelos 6 shafts and I’m very glad I was picked. I will be providing reviews as the season progresses, and also how gentle they are on the elbow which was the main reason I went with graphite. Conclusion: I don’t know how Nippon markets these shafts, but whatever, a disservice is being done here. These Zelos shafts could be the missing link for a lot of golfers who are in graphite but are having mixed results. I’m not a fitter by any stretch, but if anyone is doing a fitting, I would definitely include these, at least give them a shot. Maybe these(Zelos 6) aren’t for you but I can’t help but wonder the rest of the Zelos line for those who have a higher SS than I do or are in graphite and want more stability, height, distance.

Yep, that sounds very familiar on some boards.....depending on who the OEM that the forum wants to promote. BTW, those trips for fitting and "free" gear I've always was curious about that. In speaking to a long time member, he didn't come out and exactly say it but he did say "you don't want to call this forum the friends and family forum to certain people".

Nah, I understand the distance thing, it's when you talk to them about a topic and inevitability some how distance get into the picture and when you tell them that your max is 230-240...it's like ohhhh, meaning what does a guy who can't reach at least 250 doing in our discussions.

Just to let you guys know, GolfWRX isn't the only golf site(not MGS) that has people bragging about how far they hit a club, just sayin....

This certainly applies to me also. I'm so bad with my irons lately that my wedges are probably my most played irons.

I've tried FJ and Finger TEN, and both seem to work good. FJ being somewhat more durable but Finger TEN is a whole lot cheaper.

I'm looking at several now, See More is on my list. Since I'm a face balanced type of guy, I'm going to look at those first before I look at others. The SB20 offset is on the list which is face balanced. Thanks!

Another option would be the MMT shafts, they have a mesh tip for stability.

Distanza is an excellent driver shaft!

Like the idea of a developmental type club but if I'm going to spend $500 per club, I would like to know more details about it like construction/materials, etc., and probably even then it's out of my $$ range for clubs.

Interested in thoughts as compared to some of the mainstream wedges out there.

I was thinking about it, but now you've got me un-thinking.........Thanks!!