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5 hours ago, Donn lost in San Diego said:
Spend a few minutes and dollars with a pro. If you got this far, you say you are a 12, without a teacher, then that's great. I don't want to criticize, especially as I see you just joined Spy. But I am amazed at times that golfers with good scores ask people they have never met for swing advice.
Well going to an instructor you never met is the samething.
Depsite your disbelief there are people on forums who are either teachers, working in becoming a teacher, and some who understand the the swing and want to help people get better.
All are usually better options than the ones who try to go it alone with little to no understanding of the swing and end up creating different bad habits and prolonging th journey to getting better
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Without seeing a swing there’s no way to say what to improve on or fix. The numbers say you at TT generating enough spin even if we assumed this was indoors on mats.
The smash factor tells us your swing isn’t efficient.
If you want to improve find a good instructor locally or virtually and work with them
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39 minutes ago, bigperm said:
Seems like I am just off line, most times a little more left than normal.
So just don't learn??
Offline could be alignment and not the club or it could be the swing and not the club.
or it could be the club doesn’t fit your swing and is causing and issue with your delivery.
Learn what?
If it’s learn to make the clubs work for me then no. The clubs should be working with me, not me learning something to make them work.
Im also not learning what they do. I learned that in my fitting whether I self fit or had a fitter do it.
If learning means to get better at golf then I am learning but I’m doing it with clubs that again work with me not me working to make them work
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It looks like a titleist driver. I don’t think it looks that bad and I typically don’t care what the sole of the driver looks like unless it some of the weird stuff Wilson put out.
I almost put a j815 driver in the bag and wasn’t a fan of the look.
I pay more attention to the look of irons than I do drivers
- William P, Josh Parker, tigerpill and 4 others
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51 minutes ago, KINGWinston said:
What stroke gained stats exactly? For what handicap player? While I don't completely disagree (I'll take 40+ yards all day) but the yardage difference isn't generally that drastic so let's assume a 20-25 yard difference. There are more variables from playing out of the rough, starting with the rough itself. Those stats, just like any other sport I've played, only tell one side of the story. An extra 25 yards is amazing but does it help when you're right behind a tree and have to chip out or forced to lay up? If we're talking pro's than absolutely being a little off line in the rough isn't a problem but i was say the shot dispersion on this thread is a tad bit different that tour pros. Data helps but I've never been driven by data in any sport i played, if you are it can become a fault. Sometimes you have to go with feel/flow of the game.
Nothing helps behind a tree regardless of where you’re at or if you are in the woods.
But all strokes gained stats show it’s better to be closer to the hole than further away regardless of handicap. Course management strategies incorporate strokes gained into picking targets and distance. The closer one is the better their proximity to the hole is. The closer you are in proximity the better the make perecdntage goes.
Feel free to go read broadies work and see for yourself or not and stay stuck in methods that data doesn’t support.
some data for you
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Why do you need to adjust anything?
Are you having some issue on the course?
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That’s the best part of life. If you don’t like something you don’t have to participate in it. Theres always streaming services to use to watch coverage. Muting the tv so you don’t have to hear the commentators or treat them as white noise.
I don’t watch the nba anymore because I don’t like the current game and the rule changes. I don’t watch much mlb anymore for similar reasons. Haven’t watched a football game outside of the Super Bowl in 4 years.
For golf I tend to have other things going on during the weekend so I only catch a few holes here and there or just don’t watch. Sports on tv arent that important for me to sit in front of the tv for hours to watch. Would rather do productive things that improve other people’s lives or mine
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19 minutes ago, jolter1 said:
I am hoping this is not the trend for the future where these young pro athletes want to get out of their sport before they hit 30. As to Lexi, this doesn't really surprise me as to the way she has been playing and her body language the past couple years which have been challenging for her. Perhaps playing a limited schedule, at her age, will rekindle the passion and drive to return full time.
It’s not that uncommon in female sports especially those who started as young as she did. Lorena Ochoa is a good example. Unlike Lexi she was at the top when she left.
There’s others that have left at a young age
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22 minutes ago, Preeway said:
I guarantee the same thing will happen of you made the top 25 PGA guys try to qualify as well. Can’t always have your best stuff every week.
the top 25 on the pga tour have to play against the top golfers every time they step on the course. Most of the guys on LIV haven’t seen top 25 on the pga tour when they were playin there.
US open qualifying yesterday’s was 36 holes. You don’t have to worry about a whole week.
The hottest player on LIV only had one year inside the top 25 while on tour. Hes good but far from one of the best
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For supposedly being some of the best golfers in the world 17 LIV members failed to qualify for the U.S. Open. Guess they aren’t some of the best
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2 hours ago, matt_puttercup said:
I did do the wedge fitting, twice, and each time I got different recommendations. I'm curious how much of a difference the grinds actually make, or if 90% of the forgiveness / performance off different lies & conditions is really just the bounce.
17 minutes ago, matt_puttercup said:I sort of breezed through the recommender questions the first time and took my time the second time, which resulted in both the 56* and 60* recommendations being the D-grind. And I love your recommendation about a fitting day, because that will be way more useful than anything else! Where I'm at the sand tends to be wet / firm, so I'm already of a mind that I have no business with 14* with either of my higher lofted wedges.
Curious--why did you opt for more bounce with SW and less with LW? I ask because I was thinking about going with the opposite -- i.e. LW is for fewer "emergency" situations like a flop, SW is for a broader variety of situations where more bounce might not be helpful.
Well this explains the reason for different output.
For some the grind and bounce difference will make a huge difference with one being worse than the other.
If you were honest in your replies to the questions then the recommendations are usually pretty accurate. Will a 14° be bad for wet/firm sand? Maybe but maybe not. Some of it will depend on your technique and how you setup the club in that situation. Playing the club more square it might not be a problem.
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2 hours ago, KINGWinston said:
I seen an earlier comment about rather being 20-40 yards further in the rough than back and in the fairway... while that may work for a hole or two, long term, you need to be in the short stuff to score. you sacrifice accuracy out of the rough before you even hit your shot. I've got a buddy who will bomb the ball all over the place and when he connects on a good one it looks awesome but I always hit him with the "I'll see ya whenever you get up there"
Accuracy is king
Strokes gain says the exact opposite. Being closer to the hole even in the rough than further back in the fairway. Proximity to the hole goes up, green hit goes up, putting stats improve.
if one can get out of normal rough with a wedge hitting from the fairway with a 7i isn’t going to make them score better.
Then when you combine strokes gained with course management you get systems like decade which accounts for when there maybe trouble or not enough room for ones dispersion pattern, then you make a smarter choice but you don’t go going up 20+ yards just to score better.
The difference in fairways between handicaps isn’t that large so more fairway hits don’t lead to a better score or strokes gained .that data is posted in this thread if you care to read it.
Data>feelings
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6 hours ago, Jim Shaw said:
interesting, so mid to high handicaps struggle with getting the sole completely on the ground, I did not know that. will have to watch a few guys on the range.
No mid big caps sole the club and in many cases as we see with people here trying to get the toe to sit on the ground. This makes it harder to get the club moving and leads to an inside takeaway and usually causes a steeper backswing that’s needs. Plus it creates bad tension.
if these golfers hovered the club and had the toe up 1-2mm they would have less tension and a better and smoother takeaway
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1 hour ago, Jim Shaw said:
I have never "hoovered" the club, I find it wiggles around too much for me before I take it away, probably due to hitting so many balls I have a comfort zone. and certainly don't think about it...
it’s not a requirement to play good golf but it eliminates a lot of problems that many mid to high handicaps have including trying to get the sole completely flat on the ground at setup and this causing other issues or making the current ones worse
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That’s somewhat old news. Fitters like Ian from TXG/CC and others have talked about swing speed being an input number and the output numbers tell a better story. Because as mentioned monitors read different heads differently but also ball speed is far more important.
Scroll thru golf forums and golf groups and see how many people have low ball speeds but high swing speeds. Face contact point and using foot powder spray and then using things like swing path, face to path and face angle, along with dynamic loft, launch, spin and apex are things good fitters look at along with ball flight
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35 minutes ago, Jim Shaw said:
wow, good for you to realize that.
I think all golfers should place their irons on a mat so the sole is completely intact with the mat, then if you feel the club is too upright or too flat for you just get the angle proper for you...
Or learn proper setup, have lie angle determined by the sharpie test and then setup with hovering the club rather than put soleing it
- Jim Shaw, cksurfdude and William P
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8 hours ago, Rob Person said:
Not trying to banter or cause friction, but as part of the discussion, what would be acceptable pace to you for someone learning how to play, that may hit 4 or 5 shots from Tee to green? What about if they were all new in a foursome. Just trying to provide some perspective is all. Do you go up to them and tell them they need to just pick up and go to the next hole? How do they gain knowledge and experience if nobody has given them any guidance?
I’ve been there as the new guy. My buddy who got me into the game was also new having only played a few times as a kid with his dad. We topped shots, took 10s on a lot of holes. We played with guys every Saturday who wrangled from low handicaps to high handicaps like us.
So yes even taking 4-5 shots to get to the green, another 3-4 around the green can still be played fast and not cause a pace of play issue. Our group was never behind the group in front of us.
Sure there are rounds where a bad hole happens for several people and you get behind the group in front. It’s happened playing with three other 10 and below handicaps where a lost ball or something caused a small delay. But even as a high handicap it’s not hard to catch back up.
And again I’ve seen guys shoot even par that played slower than the guy shooting high 90a in the same group.
Ive been around this game for nearly 30 years and have played with all types of golfers in random pairings to close friends. In scrambles with lots of alcohol consumed to no alcohol at all. Easy mini courses to hard courses that are used for high level competitions including US open qualifying. Its the attitude, approach, self awareness or whatever you want to call it of the golfer and not the skillset.
Read the tour threads and people complaining about slow play on the tour. Those guys are shooting low scores and are slow
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2 hours ago, tomekkplk said:
Not going to say I have a limited budget but also not going to say budget is no option since I do not want to "waste" any money. I'm looking to go more than a few times a year. Definitely want to get my game up and improve. The only brands I remember from back in the day are Taylormade and Callaway which are the only ones I posted. Not going to say I have a limited budget but also not going to say budget is no option since I do not want to "waste" any money. I'm looking to go more than a few times a year. Definitely want to get my game up and improve. The only brands I remember from back in the day are Taylormade and Callaway which are the only ones I posted. I use my friends old set of clubs when we go out but he doesn't go out as much as I'd like so that's why I'd like a legit set for myself. Even range days to get more familiar with my future set.
If you are trying to play more frequently then go to a fitter and find out what works for you. Then use that to buy a used set that will at least get you into a bag that fits you better than just randomly buying some box set or some random used set from a used club website
- Rob Person and bama no 1
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More info is needed.
how long have you been playing?
how serious are you about the game? Ie how offed do you practice, how often do you play.
Do you just go out to have fun or are you trying to get better?
- bama no 1 and Rob Person
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17 hours ago, AverageSizedDog said:
Is Richard Bland going back to back on the Champions tour good for LIV or neutral for golf league?
It’s the champions tour, not that significant of a story.
Unless it’s a Hale Irwin/Bernard Langher type thing it’s not that newsworthy.
LIV golf is an exhibition tour, this does nothing to give credit the tour
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3 hours ago, Rob Person said:
Can you elaborate more on this? Appreciate any info you can offer.
Instead of soleing the club on the ground hold it just above. It makes the take easier and typically less inside that we see from a lot of golfers. Creates constant grip pressure and less tension. Easier to create the moment into the takeaway. I know good golfers who sole it, but know far more who don’t.
Greats like Nicklaus and Norman have talked about this .
- Rob Person and cksurfdude
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2 hours ago, Rob Person said:
So, I have mentioned this before in other topics, but it's not an excuse, it's the reason, for 75% of slow play.
No the reason for slow play is slow golfers of all skill levels. I know just as many low handicap players that are slow as I do high handicaps. Slow golfers regardless of skill level is the reason.
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18 hours ago, Prodigal Duffer said:
I think you should let the sole rest, including the heel. My issue is I was pushing the heel down so that the toe was off the ground at address.
Well the good golfers tend to hover the club and not sole it. And some for us is recommended
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On 4/12/2024 at 8:14 PM, DonBridgeway said:
I’m interested to see if the AI Smoke is all that I’ve heard and read. I build drivers and focus on MOI optimization for maximum forgiveness to decrease dispersion on off-center hits. I’d like to see how they compare to Calloway.
Well it’s Callaway not Calloway.
You could take whatever driver you build and go to a store with demo clubs and compare them to the ai smoke or whatever driver you want that’s available at the store
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So a bad fit and it’s the club/manufacturers fault.
fyi Ping because of their head designs and moi are some of the highest spinning heads on the market, even their lst model spins higher than other lst models