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  1. Thanks for the input, I have watched the Aimpoint express videos and use the system on most putts over 6 feet. I am waiting for a training session to be offered in my area this summer to refine it further. I have taken this to the point of using cell phone apps to measure slope to try and "calibrate" my feet when first learning the system. I usually try to calibrate on the practice green before a round by guessing slope and then adjusting for stimp/slope by trial and error on a basic 10 - 15 footer that only breaks 1 way. In terms of aim, I aim for a spot right or left hole high depending on break to putt towards. Sometimes that spot will be 2-3 feet in front or behind the hole if it is a steep incline/decline. Pacing off my putts to measure distance has helped with speed, I am a measure/calculate player vs a feel player. So this has become part of my putting routine which also helps to feel the break over the length of the putt with my feet. Switching to a strong arc putter has increased the amount I miss long as well. I have spent a lot of time this winter working on 3-8 foot putts indoors, so I am confident in my ability to hit my line and practice this outdoors by placing a dime 2 feet ahead of the ball on my chosen line which I hit about 90% of the time. My problem is around read and speed. Made a right to left, downhill 15 footer for birdie to start my round yesterday. Then proceeded to miss most putts on the front 9 low resulting in 4x 3 putts. I did have a 50, 65 and 70 footer in those next 8 holes, but the wedges were not getting me close enough in general to convert up and downs. Ended up with a disappointing 38 putts after proceeding to miss most putts high on the back 9 with no 3 putts. Along the way managed to lip out 3 and burnt 2 edges.
  2. Lots of stats coming out now about the amount of putts missed short or to the low side of the hole. What are some strategies you use to read break on greens and adjust if you notice missing low? I seem to under estimate the amount of break often. Do any of you notice this during the course of a round, if so what adjustments do you make to add more break to your putts if you have under read a couple to start your round?
  3. I added some lead tape heel side and at the back of my driver and all I did was hit draws and hooks, did not miss one right all day including during warm up on the range with the stats to show. Took it off the next day and the two way miss was back. I would definitely play with it and see if it helps.
  4. The Iping app and cradle is a handy tool, but very high level and if you want to use analytics to fit a putter I would steer towards SAM or one of the other methods you have used. I think it is a good tool to point you toward some general putter types. I used Iping this winter to compare a #9 style odyssey putter (strong arc) with an EVNROLL ER2 (slight arc) and my old gamer - a face balanced mid mallet Taylormade MC72 (straight back and through, which still holds the record for best ever 9 hole performance of 13 putts which led to 3 birdies and a 38). My usual putting stroke is slight arc but quite close to strong arc. Using the #9 pushed the stroke type right on the line that divides strong and slight arc in the ping app. While using the face balanced putter yielded results that were closer to straight back straight through. So the individual putter can affect these parameters a noticeable amount if you select from opposite ends of the spectrum. (I had an in person putter fitting, the instructor used the ping app as well as selected an O Works #9 based on my budget and the visual appearance of my stroke on an indoor putting green, i didnt think it was very thorough after hitting maybe 10 balls with 6 different putters and a few more with the 2 or 3 putters i preferred.) The other things i learned through the Iping app are: the shape of the putter bottom noticeably affected the consistency of my lie angle at address which has some affect on face angle. The EVNROLL had the roundest bottom of the 3. Certain hosel shapes seemed to increase the amount of forward press I defaulted to at address. The EVNROLL gave me best average putting handicaps in the app, so i was confident in my choice and put the ER2 into play at the end of last season and beginning of this season after hitting hundreds of putts indoors in random order over a 1-2 month period. I drained a few 20-25 footers with the ER2, including my first eagle which kept me coming back. On a whim (after a 40 putt round with the ER2), I put the #9 in play and my distance control improved which I attribute to better release and freer swing with the #9. Also, the number of putts missed long increased which is better than short in my opinion. The alignment T on the odyssey also fits my eye better than the single line and dots on the ER2. How much of this was due to arc type, head weight differences (25-30g) 370g with ER2, grip type and size, alignment lines, etc.? All putters were 34" and 70 deg lie, the ER2 was eventually adjusted to 68 lie as a result of my fitting in my quest for the ultimate putting machine. Grips used were SS mid slim 3.0, tour snsr pistol 140 and 104, stock EVNROLL red grip. At the end of the day, on course performance is the only thing that matters which the Iping numbers cannot tell you. Trying to hit a 50 foot uphill putt with the amount of material milled out of the ER2 face resulted in more of a baseball swing than a putt. This is why I would favor SAM numbers since they are more accurate and you can vary the length of putts to better reflect on course performance then hitting a bunch of the recommended 10 footers with Ping. I have since sold the ER2 and in my constant quest to become a bigger ho will now start looking at slant neck putters (#7, other rounded mid mallets) - maybe a stroke lab or an EXO. I can't handle the look or alignment lines of a TM spider even though the statistical side of my brain is telling me to boost the MOI to aid mishits. The Tour SNSR pistol grips are becoming one of my favourite grips in either of the sizes as well. TL;DR - Iping can point you towards a putter family or type IMO, you need a fitting for length, loft and lie and would then try to use more sophisticated tools like SAM to see which in that family gives you best stats. On course is likely the only way to determine the head weight and swing weight that will perform and score best not which is best at flat 10 footers.
  5. Brandon Martindale - Calgary, Alberta, Canada Swing Speed: Range 100-105 mph, Average 102 mph Primary: Bridgestone E6 (have dozen new TP5 and RX330 for a comparison test also) Have never played any Snell balls.
  6. I used a gorilla glue 2 part epoxy from home depot. Just looked for something in the 2000-3000 psi strength range.
  7. A bit off topic, but I am going to put in my 2 cents anyway. - Looks like OP is tracking stats, compare your putts/round, GIR%, fairway%, driver distance, and up&down% based on handicap range in each area to identify your weaknesses to focus more practice on. (I did this and found that averaging 250 yards with a driver and 56% FIR is equivalent to a 6-10 handicap according to some data sets and was actually my strongest area. While 10-15% up & down% is a 25-30 hdcp.) - The farther below 50% GIR you hit on average, the more important your short game to have any par chances on missed greens. - You can develop you short game (carry distances) in an open field, or maybe even your own back yard/basement/garage space permitting. It also requires less skills/coordination than full swing because quality contact is much easier on 1/4 shots. Doing this with full swing shots while accurately measuring the output to see if you are improving is difficult if not impossible. - develop some backswing lengths for lag putting: inside of back foot, outside of backfoot, widen stance and then to outside of foot again. Calibrate these distances on the putting green before a round, hopefully they work out to something like 15, 25, 40 feet or 20, 30, 50 feet. Then pace off your lag putts on the course prior to hitting them. Distance control is far more important at these distances. - get a Putt-out trainer and possibly their mat, become deadly from 4-6 feet to dial in face control for short putts. The curve of the putt out will allow you to hit it firm enough to simulate 8-10 footers on a 6' mat indoors all winter.
  8. Better faster - the modern golfers blueprint to getting more from less. It has an excellent system for evaluating your weaknesses in the areas of ball striking, chipping, and putting. It provides numerous Drills and games in each 3 areas as well as a scoring system to guide you on when to increase difficulty or change Drills. Great for people that want to improve without lessons to accurately assess their game.
  9. The TOURSNSR pistols are a great shape with a well defined flat top. The rubber texture is awesome as well.
  10. Read "your short game solution" by James sieckmann. Clearly breaks up techniques, troubleshooting, and Drills. Provides practice plans and games. Distance mapping and practice plans are two of the biggest benefits. Spend a few weeks or months doing short game practice instead of hitting a bucket off mats at the range. You need to define some 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 swing yardage with all wedges and get reps in to be confident and learn the rollout of all those shots with each Wedge.
  11. Just saw the HM Pros at Golf Town for the first time. Those C-Taper Lite brushed finish shafts with the stock grey grips on those heads are actually making me give some consideration to the appearance of the clubs I play.
  12. I am currently using a 345g putter with a 105g toursnsr pistol grip and have noticed better distance control with the lighter head. Tempted to try something in the 330-335g range to see if it is even better. Back to EVNROLL, Their alignment dots and line are also not my favourite which I feel impacts my ability to aim properly compared to other systems with multiple lines.
  13. One thing to consider with the purchase of EVNROLL putters is the speed of your greens. If you play on the local muni or other "Value" public courses with slow greens it takes a lot of effort to hit lag putts outside of 50'. This is due to the amount of material removed from the face to machine the grooves. I had a static putter fitting which I used to customize the ER2 but IMO the 370g head weight may be part of the issue. I love my ER2, the roll is great and it provides the best numbers on the PING putting app in terms of stroke consistency (on 10' putts indoors on a mat) compared to a face balanced mid mallet and a #9 style strong arc putter after extensive testing this winter. On course results have been mixed with distance control on long putts. The EVNROLL always seemed to drop 1 deep 20-25 foot putt every round to keep me coming back for more. But the number of 3 putts due to poor lags negated any benefit. Background on my game: average 34-36 putts/round, lowest was 30 putts with the face balanced mallet mentioned above. After a recent 41 putt round with seven 3 putts the EVNROLL has been put in the penalty box until it decides to behave again.
  14. Cobra F9 3-4W, turn it down to 15* or 16* loft. Worked better for me than a Rogue 4W at 18* off the deck plus 10-20 yard more distance.
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