cciciora13 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Say there is 7-8 degress toe up on a malled double bend putter. How would that affect performance if any? Quote In my bag: Driver: Ben Hogan GS53 10.5* Stiff Mitsubishi tensei blue Stiff 3 Wood: 939 x 15 deg. UST Proforce Black V2 7F4 stiff Hybrid: 939x Hybrid UST 680 recoil shaft stiff Irons: 699 irons 4-PW KBS tour 90 v Stiff 50 Deg: TAIII Satin 54 deg: TAIII Satin 58 Deg: TAIII Satin Putter: 004 Single Bend Masters Edition Rangefinder: Caddytek V2 Check out my MyGolfSpy 2020 Forum Official Tester: Ben Hogan GS53 Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, cciciora13 said: Say there is 7-8 degress toe up on a malled double bend putter. How would that affect performance if any? I would say minimal if any; that is basically face balanced. Shaft is just a little off so would intersect toe side of center causing it to be a little toe up. cciciora13 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cciciora13 Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 8:47 PM, cnosil said: I would say minimal if any; that is basically face balanced. Shaft is just a little off so would intersect toe side of center causing it to be a little toe up. So would it cause pushes then or would it not make a huge difference? Quote In my bag: Driver: Ben Hogan GS53 10.5* Stiff Mitsubishi tensei blue Stiff 3 Wood: 939 x 15 deg. UST Proforce Black V2 7F4 stiff Hybrid: 939x Hybrid UST 680 recoil shaft stiff Irons: 699 irons 4-PW KBS tour 90 v Stiff 50 Deg: TAIII Satin 54 deg: TAIII Satin 58 Deg: TAIII Satin Putter: 004 Single Bend Masters Edition Rangefinder: Caddytek V2 Check out my MyGolfSpy 2020 Forum Official Tester: Ben Hogan GS53 Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 8 hours ago, cciciora13 said: So would it cause pushes then or would it not make a huge difference? IMO, that is more stroke dependent and how you react to the putter. For example, Edel putters are all significantly toe up but that doesn’t mean they cause pushes just like putters that are toe down doesn’t cause pulls. PMookie and cciciora13 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPJR Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Does it affect alignment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbers Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 30 minutes ago, RPJR said: Does it affect alignment? It shoudn't affect alignment, that's a static part of the process once completed. Quote Ping G430 Max 10.5* Ping G430 SFT 3 wood and Ping G430 HL 7 wood SR flex Ping G430 4,5,6,7 hybrids SR flex Cleveland Launcher XL Halo 8,9,P,G, SW irons A Flex Cleveland Smart Sole S wedge A Flex Cobra Nova putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 9:28 PM, cciciora13 said: So would it cause pushes then or would it not make a huge difference? The generic advice on fitting would say it is easier to close the face of a toe up putter than a toe hang model. Making it easier to shut would promote a pull. But it's all about how the individual responds to the putter. If you hit a bunch of putt with a plumbers neck or other toe hang putter, then immediately switch to a face balanced or toe up putter there is a good chance of hitting some pulls until you adjust. Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakman92 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Just now, BMart519 said: The generic advice on fitting would say it is easier to close the face of a toe up putter than a toe hang model. Making it easier to shut would promote a pull. But it's all about how the individual responds to the putter. If you hit a bunch of putt with a plumbers neck or other toe hang putter, then immediately switch to a face balanced or toe up putter there is a good chance of hitting some pulls until you adjust. FYI, "Toe Hang" is something completely different. See pic below. I has nothing to do with whether the putter has toe sitting up or not at address. Completely unrelated. Quote Epic Max LS 11.5° (10.5°+1) w/ Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 6 stiff Epic Flash 3 Wood 17° (15°+2) w/ Project X Even Flow Green 60 stiff Super Hybrid 21° (20°+1) w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 80 stiff Rogue Hybrid 5 (24°) w/ Aldila Synergy 60 HYB Graphite stiff 2021 P790 Irons 5-AW (1° flat, weakened lofts) w/ Aerotech Steelfiber i95 cw regular CBX2 Wedges 54°, 58° w/ True Temper DG 115 Wedge flex Odyssey White Hot OG #1 Stroke Lab, 33 in Pro V1 Bushnell Launch Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, pakman92 said: FYI, "Toe Hang" is something completely different. See pic below. I has nothing to do with whether the putter has toe sitting up or not at address. Completely unrelated. I am aware of the difference between toe hang and toe up. I own and have been fit for both styles of putter. My comments above differentiate between the two models. pakman92 and NM01 2 Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakman92 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, BMart519 said: I am aware of the difference between toe hang and toe up. I own and have been fit for both styles of putter. My comments above differentiate between the two models. My mistake. I didn't even realize "Toe up" putters even existed. I mistakenly thought the poster was talking about putter that is sitting upright at address. Eager to learn more about what that kind of 'negative' toe hang does. Thanks. Quote Epic Max LS 11.5° (10.5°+1) w/ Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 6 stiff Epic Flash 3 Wood 17° (15°+2) w/ Project X Even Flow Green 60 stiff Super Hybrid 21° (20°+1) w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 80 stiff Rogue Hybrid 5 (24°) w/ Aldila Synergy 60 HYB Graphite stiff 2021 P790 Irons 5-AW (1° flat, weakened lofts) w/ Aerotech Steelfiber i95 cw regular CBX2 Wedges 54°, 58° w/ True Temper DG 115 Wedge flex Odyssey White Hot OG #1 Stroke Lab, 33 in Pro V1 Bushnell Launch Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPJR Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 On 4/5/2022 at 10:28 AM, pakman92 said: My mistake. I didn't even realize "Toe up" putters even existed. I mistakenly thought the poster was talking about putter that is sitting upright at address. Eager to learn more about what that kind of 'negative' toe hang does. Thanks. I guess I was confused about this too. I also thought "toe up" referred to lie angle or having low hands at address such that the toe is off the ground at address. pakman92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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