GolfSpy SAM Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Sweet Jeebus. You guys want a laugh at an AMAZINGLY bad video? I genuinely can't say whether the tech is good or bad (I mean, it sounds ridiculous on nearly every level - negative 8° putter face? But... Why?), but the video is so hilariously bad I needed to show someone who would understand why it's so bad. Also, I wonder if this putter is USGA-Approved? It's hard to tell from the video. Do yourself a favor and watch a thoroughly (if mistakenly) entertaining video Ps - someone PLEASE buy this and do a full write-up. Please. GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Driver - Callaway Ai Smoke Max - 9* - Draw setting; Maltby UL (Otto Phlex) 5/7 Wood - Takomo Ignis Utility - Caley X01 Driving Iron (3 = 18*) (currently benched) Irons (5-PW) - Caley 01T Wedges (48, 52, 56, 60) - Indi Wedges FLX 48 / ATK 52, 56, 60 Putter - L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 - 65*/DF3 65* Ball - Chrome Tour Triple-Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted December 7, 2022 SPY VIP Share Posted December 7, 2022 Lots going on there Oddly compelled to get one now. GolfSpy SAM and GolfSpy_APH 2 Quote Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Isn't this very similar to what Evnroll did with the really offset putter? Or at least the same concept in terms of trying to achieve getting your hands through the ball? Quote as of Oct 5, 2024 (Past WITB) Driver: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ - check out the Driver Shootout! Wood: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ shaft (still love my Cobra F7's) Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,57 or SM10 45,49,53,57 degree wedges Putter: LINK! Full putter shootout incoming Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Golf Bag: Ghost Anyday 5.0 Golf bag - Maverick colorway with MGS Logo Other: Vortex Anarch Rangefinder, searching for electric cart, Red Rooster The Root Glove and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 7 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said: Isn't this very similar to what Evnroll did with the really offset putter? Or at least the same concept in terms of trying to achieve getting your hands through the ball? This putter is about loft; the evnroll was about offset. The claim of this putter is that it rolls the ball better. GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, cnosil said: This putter is about loft; the evnroll was about offset. The claim of this putter is that it rolls the ball better. Agree, I guess what I am trying to say is that wouldn't the effect be similar with both or trying to achieve a similar result, just with two slight different methods? Quote as of Oct 5, 2024 (Past WITB) Driver: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ - check out the Driver Shootout! Wood: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ shaft (still love my Cobra F7's) Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,57 or SM10 45,49,53,57 degree wedges Putter: LINK! Full putter shootout incoming Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Golf Bag: Ghost Anyday 5.0 Golf bag - Maverick colorway with MGS Logo Other: Vortex Anarch Rangefinder, searching for electric cart, Red Rooster The Root Glove and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Well... that was 3 mins of my life I'll never get back. -8* of loft still can't read the greens for you... GolfSpy SAM and GolfSpy_APH 2 Quote In my Big Max hybrid bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Halo XL 5i-DW CBX 54* & 58* ER5 Tour S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, GolfSpy_APH said: Agree, I guess what I am trying to say is that wouldn't the effect be similar with both or trying to achieve a similar result, just with two slight different methods? From what I recall the evnroll trainer was more about path. When Guerin was at HQ and I happened to be there to talk to him, the discussion was more about how it also altered stroke length. the Piza discussion is more roll centric. GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy SAM Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 3 hours ago, russtopherb said: Well... that was 3 mins of my life I'll never get back. -8* of loft still can't read the greens for you... No, but it can push the ball into the green and make its own divot on contact, lol. Doesn't 8 degrees feel...like a LOT of downward angle? GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Driver - Callaway Ai Smoke Max - 9* - Draw setting; Maltby UL (Otto Phlex) 5/7 Wood - Takomo Ignis Utility - Caley X01 Driving Iron (3 = 18*) (currently benched) Irons (5-PW) - Caley 01T Wedges (48, 52, 56, 60) - Indi Wedges FLX 48 / ATK 52, 56, 60 Putter - L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 - 65*/DF3 65* Ball - Chrome Tour Triple-Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Samsonite said: No, but it can push the ball into the green and make its own divot on contact, lol. Doesn't 8 degrees feel...like a LOT of downward angle? Considering most putters are at 2-4 degrees yes, that is a lot! GolfSpy SAM 1 Quote as of Oct 5, 2024 (Past WITB) Driver: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ - check out the Driver Shootout! Wood: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ shaft (still love my Cobra F7's) Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,57 or SM10 45,49,53,57 degree wedges Putter: LINK! Full putter shootout incoming Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Golf Bag: Ghost Anyday 5.0 Golf bag - Maverick colorway with MGS Logo Other: Vortex Anarch Rangefinder, searching for electric cart, Red Rooster The Root Glove and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berg Ryman Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 I mean, it's fully funded so at least they'll get out into the wild. My putter has differing lofts at different points on the face due to SIK's DLT tech, but this is way way too extreme I think. GolfSpy_APH, russtopherb and GolfSpy SAM 3 Quote In a Hoofer Lite bag AI Smoke Max, 12*, set -1/D, Project X RDX Smoke Red 50, 6.0 Flex Stealth, 15 degrees, VA Composites Nemesys 70-S E722, 19 degrees, Oban Devotion 80-S JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-P, Nippon 950GH Stiff Flex CBX Zipcore 50* (bent to *49) and RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 54* (bent to *55), DG 115 Spinner, Tour Issue Staff Model TG 60*, Dynamic Gold 120 S300 SIK Golf Flo-C Prov V1X Left Dash... for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy SAM Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, Berg Ryman said: I mean, it's fully funded so at least they'll get out into the wild. My putter has differing lofts at different points on the face due to SIK's DLT tech, but this is way way too extreme I think. Yeah, but the DLT makes sense to me there, because it's 1-4 degrees. How far forward in your stance would you need to play the ball with -8 degrees in order to get the ball to not bounce directly into the ground? This just seems bonkers - very interested to see this thing demo'd by people who care more about putting than whether or not it's certified by the USGA (which, in case you didn't watch the video, it TOTALLY IS...lol) Quote Driver - Callaway Ai Smoke Max - 9* - Draw setting; Maltby UL (Otto Phlex) 5/7 Wood - Takomo Ignis Utility - Caley X01 Driving Iron (3 = 18*) (currently benched) Irons (5-PW) - Caley 01T Wedges (48, 52, 56, 60) - Indi Wedges FLX 48 / ATK 52, 56, 60 Putter - L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 - 65*/DF3 65* Ball - Chrome Tour Triple-Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpatrickriley Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 That said: as a driver training aid that forces you to hit up—way up—on the ball, I could go for one of these. EDIT: It's angle is sharper than the building it's named after: GolfSpy_APH and GolfSpy SAM 2 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX E722 16.5°, Tensei AV RAW Blue 65 S Epic Super Hybrid 19°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 22°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 Epic Forged 7 27° 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 7–PW Diamond Tour Inazone 3.0 50°, 54°, 58°, Aldila NV 95 Graphite DF3, Counterbalanced 37", TPT shaft, Garsen Quad Tour 17" Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag Ratt Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Keep your old putter…blame it on your caddie!!!! GolfSpy SAM 1 Quote New PXG Xcore ..irons and 0311 XF driver… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreddyTheBearCat Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 “The only USGA certified putter: Pisa” lol I guess you have to get one now. Quote Driver - Speedline F11 8.5° Wood - SLDR 16.5° Hybrid - Apex 23° Irons - 762 DCI 5 -PW Wedges - Tom Watson RC14 52°, 56°, 60° Putter - Valerie Balls - The Noodz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag Ratt Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 All else fails blame the caddy ! Quote New PXG Xcore ..irons and 0311 XF driver… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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