BJacks56 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 I’m working on hitting the range with a purpose and focus. I’ve spent some time on ChatGPT developing out a Range Session Program, but want to hear from y’all: What specific range drills helped you go from a casual golfer to mid-handicappers? cksurfdude 1 Quote Brian Jackson Driver: K-Sig & Taylormade AeroBurner 2.0 Irons: Mizuno 923 Hot Metal 4-GW Wedges: Titlest Vokey raw 52°, 54°, 60° Putter: SeeMore Pure Center Blade Milled SS303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayingForPar Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 I am more interested in how you used ChatGPT LOL cksurfdude 1 Quote Cobra Aerojet MAX 9* Cobra Air X 3 Wood Cobra BioCell 7 Wood Sub 70 699 Pro 4-AW Cleveland CG 56* Odyssey White Hot Rossie Ball: Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 minutes ago, WilliamYates said: I am more interested in how you used ChatGPT LOL you just type a prompt asking something like: develop a golf practice plan for the range. If there are specific things you just include those to continue refining what it responds with. cksurfdude 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayingForPar Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, cnosil said: you just type a prompt asking something like: develop a golf practice plan for the range. If there are specific things you just include those to continue refining what it responds with. I was just interested in the prompts you used, very cool. If you are into ai make sure to give perplexity a try.... To answer your actual question.....What helped me get lower in my handicap is "playing holes" on the range. Hit Driver-Iron-Wedge, or Driver-Wood-Wedge. Going back and forth with just a single shot of each club keeps you from just hitting another shot after a bad one and adds value to each shot just like on the course. Wakit300, cksurfdude and Shapotomous 3 Quote Cobra Aerojet MAX 9* Cobra Air X 3 Wood Cobra BioCell 7 Wood Sub 70 699 Pro 4-AW Cleveland CG 56* Odyssey White Hot Rossie Ball: Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanGi Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 I was actually pretty impressed with the practice plan ChatGPT laid out for “Develop a practice plan for the golf putting green” prompt. Several intelligent drills, progressively ordered in increasing challenge. I’m sure it’s nothing an experienced golfer whose taken lots of short game training wouldn’t know, but it’s great for those without that benefit! I’m gonna go try out the plan this afternoon! cksurfdude 1 Quote Driver: 849D Fuji ‘24 Ventus Blue 5R 3-5Hy: Pinemeadow Command BK 6-PW: 699 v2 Mitsu MMT 80g Wedges: MAX milled 50° (bent to 48°), 54°, 58° Mitsu Kuro Kage black 2G S/R Putter: King Supernova 20 ArmLock AL2 grip Ball: Pro Soft Bag: C130 Wine is sunlight held together by water - Galileo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJacks56 Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 William, I did a little “pre-work” before starting the Game Improvement Prompt. First I’m a paid user so the memory is a big help here (GPT4.o) Discussed my golf goals (going from no handicap to a mid handicap), what kind of swing I’ve been told I have and a little about me physically, then I told it what clubs I have. Asked it to do a full history and description for each of my clubs. Once I built my bag and had “CaddyGPT” learn all about my clubs and my swing type and goals, I started to give it swing influences like Tiger ball striking, Bryson DeChambeau power swings, John Daily’s creativity and grip it and rip style, and then did a Rick Shils coaching style. next I mentioned the range I go to and how much each size the range buckets are. My home range has a putting & chipping area included so that took a little work it break that out into long shots and short shot drills. Then through a few iterations of asking it to create a range drill for me and my clubs that sets me up to meet my goals. cksurfdude, PrayingForPar, cnosil and 1 other 4 Quote Brian Jackson Driver: K-Sig & Taylormade AeroBurner 2.0 Irons: Mizuno 923 Hot Metal 4-GW Wedges: Titlest Vokey raw 52°, 54°, 60° Putter: SeeMore Pure Center Blade Milled SS303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJacks56 Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 Opening Prompt: I’m trying to creat a range session plan to get me from not having a handicap to being a mid handicapped. Let’s start with a high level skill plan and progression. cksurfdude, PrayingForPar and cnosil 3 Quote Brian Jackson Driver: K-Sig & Taylormade AeroBurner 2.0 Irons: Mizuno 923 Hot Metal 4-GW Wedges: Titlest Vokey raw 52°, 54°, 60° Putter: SeeMore Pure Center Blade Milled SS303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJacks56 Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 Opening Prompt: I’m trying to creat a range session plan to get me from not having a handicap to being a mid handicapped. Let’s start with a high level skill plan and progression. Your golf improvement plan is structured around a comprehensive and progressive approach, incorporating elements from professional golfers' routines, swing coaches' tips, and your personal preferences. Here's a high-level overview: ### 1. **Range Sessions** - **Frequency**: Every Sunday night at Leonard's Golf Links. - **Session Structure**: - **Warm-Up**: Focus on short wedge shots (50-75 yards) to get loose. - **Precision Drills**: Pitch shots (30-50 yards), Tiger Woods-style iron drills (8, 6, 4 irons), and Bryson DeChambeau-style speed drills with a 7-iron. - **Hybrid/Fairway Wood Practice**: Target-focused shots with your 4-hybrid and 3-wood. - **Driver Work**: Bryson Power Drills for speed and control, plus John Daly-style creative drives for max distance. - **Short Game Practice**: Chipping and putting with specific goals. Short Shots Drill Structure adapts to the time available (short, medium, or long sessions). - **Cool Down**: Stretching. - **Ball Count**: A conservative number of balls is allocated per drill, and range baskets are ordered based on session goals. - **Focus**: You emphasize swing goals, shot shaping, and using all your clubs. Your drills adapt to the available range amenities. ### 2. **Swing Influences** - **Initial 18 Sessions**: Incorporate Rick Shiels' swing tips and coaching style. - **Next 18 Sessions**: Blend Rick Shiels' teachings with influences from Tiger Woods, Bryson DeChambeau, John Daly, and other pros. ### 3. **Progress Tracking** - **Yardage Tracking**: Record and track shot yardages for each club to develop a "pocket caddy" system over time. - **Session Recaps**: Review the number of balls per drill to stay on track and analyze progress. ### 4. **Equipment Focus** - **Club Setup**: Continue refining your bag setup with a mix of precision and versatility, aiming to improve performance from all lies and conditions. - **Wedge and Grip Maintenance**: Regularly check and replace grips, especially on wedges, to maintain consistency. ### 5. **Short and Long-Term Goals** - **Short-Term**: Improve accuracy, consistency, and control across all clubs, especially focusing on reducing slices and bettering driver performance. - **Long-Term**: Lower your handicap by building on the foundations established during the initial sessions, transitioning into more advanced shot shaping and creative play. Your plan is dynamic and allows for adjustments based on progress, preferences, and specific goals as you continue to improve. --- **Q1:** How should I adjust my range sessions if I find that I am struggling with a specific club? **Q2:** What specific swing tips should I incorporate from Rick Shiels, Tiger Woods, and others during my practice? **Q3:** How can I refine my short game practice to ensure consistent improvement over time? And that’s my range session plan HOPE THIS HELPS! PrayingForPar, cksurfdude and cnosil 3 Quote Brian Jackson Driver: K-Sig & Taylormade AeroBurner 2.0 Irons: Mizuno 923 Hot Metal 4-GW Wedges: Titlest Vokey raw 52°, 54°, 60° Putter: SeeMore Pure Center Blade Milled SS303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetiredBoomer Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Our practice tee has been unexplored territory for me since April, but recently I went to try hitting my driving iron off the deck. The goal was to see if I could hit it 2, 3, 4, and 5-iron distances from the deck. I couldn't, so that question didn't take log to answer. From the tee box, with my tee pushed in almost all the way down to its cup as with any iron tee shot, I can it it a straight , solid 200 yards, even at my age, That's about as far as I can hit a fairway metal--any fairway metal--regardless of number stamped on it-- from the fairway. Maybe a smidge longer but not much. Therefore, it's now established that I need only three clubs longer than a 5-iron at the top of the bag-- a well lofted driver, a driving iron, and one fairway wood--whichever is my favorite. Doing the math, driver makes one club. driving iron makes two clubs, fairway wood makes three clubs, 5-9 irons make eight clubs, and putter makes nine clubs. I don't need a five-piece set of wedges, probably, but I have room for one and I don't like empty slots. Or I can go three turf wedges, a specialty sand club, and a chipper....if I choose. More importantly, however, this experiment punches a lot of holes in my theory that I need more than fourteen clubs on the course. They may have helped once, but not this late in the game. Fourteen will work, but I'm not giving the USGA any credit. The clowns just hit it by accident!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pobrien13662 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 On 8/27/2024 at 9:27 PM, PrayingForPar said: I was just interested in the prompts you used, very cool. If you are into ai make sure to give perplexity a try.... To answer your actual question.....What helped me get lower in my handicap is "playing holes" on the range. Hit Driver-Iron-Wedge, or Driver-Wood-Wedge. Going back and forth with just a single shot of each club keeps you from just hitting another shot after a bad one and adds value to each shot just like on the course. I have to agree with playing holes. I am trying to dial in my practice routine and was getting frustrated because I was hitting pure on the range but it would all fall apart while playing a range. And then I wondered if maybe part of my issue was that I could consistently hit a club well if I was hitting it a dozen times in a row but not when hitting it once and then moving to another club. So, I do the same thing. I start by hitting my driver or 3W, then move on to a fairway wood...down to a hybrid or long iron, then a wedge to improve in transitioning between clubs. PrayingForPar and cksurfdude 2 Quote Patrick O’Brien Massena, NY Home Course: Cedar View Golf Club Bag: TM Qi10 Max Driver, TM Qi10 3W, TM Stealth 2 3H, Qi10 5H, TM Sim 2 MAx 6i-PW, Calloway Raw Jaws 50/56/60 Wedges, Odyssey Ai-One 7S Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 (edited) I think you need to treat each session as (goal) oriented.One session I will focus on managing low point.Spending time in a bunker without a ball trying to hit forward of a mark I put in the sand. next session I will add contact.Which for me is starting off with Lob wedge ending in drivers.Goal is solid contact, not speed.Amazing how after this session i will play solid golf for a week or more just keeping a solid tempo versus trying to nuke the ball.But my ball first contact in a practice bunker adds to helping this as well Third session of the week is feeling like I’m playing a round on the course using my first two sessions feels.Aim at targets and such by pretending there are fairways and greens. At the end of the session finish by putting, chipping and pitching. For me, if I’m struggling with my game, it is usually low point and face contact. Which boils down to tempo and when I apply speed or too much speed.Im more into making the club do what it was intended for.Versus forcing it.I rarely work on positions. Ive always judged my game by score versus looking good doing it I figure 30-1 hr range sessions a week (3 times) . Will allow me to play enjoyable golf. This formula has allowed me to shoot under 80 consistently since the late 1980’s Edited September 9 by Goober BJacks56 and cksurfdude 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 2 hours ago, Goober said: I think you need to treat each session as (goal) oriented.One session I will focus on managing low point.Spending time in a bunker without a ball trying to hit forward of a mark I put in the sand. Many ranges don’t have bunkers, you can just use some foot spray to make a line in the grass. You can also buy a mat and use tape or foot spray to make the line for at home practice. . Goober and cksurfdude 1 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pobrien13662 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 3 hours ago, Goober said: I think you need to treat each session as (goal) oriented.One session I will focus on managing low point.Spending time in a bunker without a ball trying to hit forward of a mark I put in the sand. next session I will add contact.Which for me is starting off with Lob wedge ending in drivers.Goal is solid contact, not speed.Amazing how after this session i will play solid golf for a week or more just keeping a solid tempo versus trying to nuke the ball.But my ball first contact in a practice bunker adds to helping this as well Third session of the week is feeling like I’m playing a round on the course using my first two sessions feels.Aim at targets and such by pretending there are fairways and greens. At the end of the session finish by putting, chipping and pitching. For me, if I’m struggling with my game, it is usually low point and face contact. Which boils down to tempo and when I apply speed or too much speed.Im more into making the club do what it was intended for.Versus forcing it.I rarely work on positions. Ive always judged my game by score versus looking good doing it I figure 30-1 hr range sessions a week (3 times) . Will allow me to play enjoyable golf. This formula has allowed me to shoot under 80 consistently since the late 1980’s Great feedback, thanks! Tempo is inconsistent so this would help. When I feel like my tempo is where it needs to be my ball striking feels almost effortless. Trying to get into that rhythm all the time is the struggle. cksurfdude 1 Quote Patrick O’Brien Massena, NY Home Course: Cedar View Golf Club Bag: TM Qi10 Max Driver, TM Qi10 3W, TM Stealth 2 3H, Qi10 5H, TM Sim 2 MAx 6i-PW, Calloway Raw Jaws 50/56/60 Wedges, Odyssey Ai-One 7S Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 On 9/9/2024 at 6:59 AM, cnosil said: Many ranges don’t have bunkers, you can just use some foot spray to make a line in the grass. You can also buy a mat and use tape or foot spray to make the line for at home practice. . Agree, improving low point and face contact is a real game changer cnosil and Shapotomous 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GforeNick Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 On 9/9/2024 at 7:59 AM, cnosil said: Many ranges don’t have bunkers, you can just use some foot spray to make a line in the grass. You can also buy a mat and use tape or foot spray to make the line for at home practice. . Painters tape on the range mat is a go to for me, or the good old standby towel cnosil and PrayingForPar 2 Quote Driver: M6 irons: sim2 max wedge: TM rsi sand wedge 55 putter: odyssey pro type 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico_de_Gallo Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Regardless of what you do, you need to make sure it works for you and it's enjoyable. My typical range session will look like this right now: about 15 small swings(half to 3/4) with an 8 iron to focus on strike and low point .... big roll of masking tape is in the bag About another 15 balls working on strike location, hitting a shot, then moving the strike point one way or another Pending what I'm trying to do, this is some of the stuff I may do out there Block style practice 5 balls with 1 club and 1 target, same style shot (i.e. shape and trajectory) 1st and 5th ball is worth 2 pts to add a little pressure 2nd, 3rd, and 4th balls are worth 1 point Award points if successful hit target or area Goal is to get 4pts of a possible 7 Change clubs, do it again This stuff could easily be altered to what ever suites you . I like having a couple pressure shots in there to try and replicate course settings. I want the practice to push me, but be attainable as well I'll do this for all clubs and different scenarios. Driver, short wedges, punch out shots, stock shots, etc. Even for some of the "extreme" stuff like intentionally slicing, or snap hooks, etc. Random Practice Not quite as well defined as my Block stuff but basically these Simulate playing specific holes from courses I know So maybe it's a driver, then see how that goes ... next shot might be a wedge if drive went well .... maybe it's a recovery shot that I have to now punch out Track and see how many shots it takes to "get on the green" for each hole Pure random club, 1 swing and switch switch target each time as well I use to roll dice to determine what club ... made it fun, but then I lost the dice Would award a point every successful club and see how many points I could get out of 10 cnosil 1 Quote Love some good Breakfast Tacos and Biscuits Driver: 0311BlackOps Wood: 0311 Gen 6, 3 wood and 5 wood Irons: 0311P Gen6, 4 iron - Gap Wedge Wedges: Sugar Daddy II, 52* and 56* Putter: Battle Ready II, Bat Attack Ball: TP5x Technology: and 2024 Caddy Daddy Claw Glove Test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFgolfer3 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Driver: Ping 400 LST - Alta CB55 3 Wood: King Cobra 5Z - UST Mamiya 5F2 5 Wood: TM Stealth - Fuji Ventus FW Hybrids (4,5,6): Cleveland Halo Launcher XL - Project X Cypher 50 Irons (7-A): Srixon ZX4 -UST Mamiya Recoil 95 SW: Cleveland 54 Zipcore CBX4 - Mamiya Recoil Dart LW: Cleveland 58 Zipcore RTX Full Face - Rotex Wedge Flex Putter: LAB DF3 Quote Founding member (1993) and current Senior Trip Captain of the Royal Union of the Choking Dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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