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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from Ben_Howell34 in Sweetens Cove Passes   
    Was able to get a 4some pass for a Sunday in August, I have heard nothing but great things and already looking forward to it more than I should!
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from BallsLeon in Sweetens Cove Passes   
    Looking to see if anyone has any experience getting passes at Sweeten Coves and can share any tips?  The process online feels entirely more complicated than it needs to be so I want to make sure I am doing what I need to secure the passes, I believe they go fairly quick.
     
    Thanks in advance.
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from BallsLeon in Sweetens Cove Passes   
    Was able to get a 4some pass for a Sunday in August, I have heard nothing but great things and already looking forward to it more than I should!
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from IndyBonzo in What Have You Built Recently?   
    A small screw into the holes of the applicator works as well.
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from IndyBonzo in What Have You Built Recently?   
    I have probably done 6-7 clubs on this dispenser and have ~30% remaining in the tubes.  That also comes with a few learning experiences so take that for what its worth.
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from IndyBonzo in What Have You Built Recently?   
    https://www.rockbottomgolf.com/golf-clubs/club-making-gear/accessories/attachment-golf-adhesives-30-ml-quick-set-epoxy-kit/
    I have used this a handful of times with no issues.  It is nice that it dispenses an equal 1:1 ratio for you.
     
    It can get messy in a hurry though, I strongly advise having some alcohol wipes on hand.
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from IndyBonzo in What Have You Built Recently?   
    This is very helpful! and I have all the necessary items except for the Junior Grips.  Thanks for sending this over.
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from IndyBonzo in What Have You Built Recently?   
    I love this thread!

    I wouldnt call myself a "club maker" mostly because I have never done so before, but I am interested in starting up.  I found an old set of Cobra irons at Goodwill that were the same kind of irons I learned how to golf with.  They arent valuable at all but sentimental and I would love to clean them up and have them be a set my kids can learn to play with.
    Has anyone done any sort of club refurbishing?  Or any tips of setting up clubs for 8-12 years from an adult set?  Thanks in advance.
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    DeBartola_B reacted to Ben_Howell34 in Sweetens Cove Passes   
    I know @Mtbryant01 has, he might could help 
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from GolfSpy_APH in SwingU Golf App - 2023 Forum Review   
    Unfortunately the Fall time is the hardest for me to get on the course, haven't played a round since early October.  But football season is winding down and I have a trip scheduled for New Years in Florida, I will fire it back up and send in an update post in early January. 
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from Wrong_Fairway in SwingU Golf App - 2023 Forum Review   
    Yep totally understand this.  As with most metrics they are better when there is a larger set of data included, looking forward to getting more data in there.  Just trying to figure out how the sausage is made.
     
    Thanks for the quick responses!
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from tdc1 in SwingU Golf App - 2023 Forum Review   
    Hello MGS Members!
    INTRODUCTION
    I am excited to finally get an opportunity to be a tester. I truly love reading all the reviews of various products and, like most of you, use those reviews to make purchases. Although I have not commented as much in the past, I have been reading this forum for years and hoping that this process will get me more comfortable posting and getting into a rhythm of how this forum runs.
    As for me, my name is Blake DeBartola. I am 33 years old, a father of 4 (ages 8 to 1 year old). We live in the suburbs of Atlanta, Georgia, in a friendly little community that is covered in golf cart paths and golf courses. I literally drive my golf cart out to eat, to the grocery store, to my kids' schools, and everywhere in between. It is a great place to be a golfer and an even better place to raise a family.  I have been golfing since I was a kid, maybe 10 years old, but didn't really start to get into it until I was in college. I always grew up playing a bunch of different sports and played college football at Georgia Southern University (Picture below of me attempting to block SEC DLineman). 

    When I was done playing football, I needed a way to "express my competitive spirit" (aka I was driving my wife crazy), so I naturally started playing golf. I had always played a little before, but this is when I started trying to practice and get better. It was an interesting time for me because I didn't really have anyone to play with; my friends had never really played before. So it was a great combination of getting them to pick up the game and making new friends who already golfed. With that, I have been able to organize and lead a yearly golf tournament that has grown from 4 guys to over 32 this past year. I am sure, like many people, this is the event that is circled on my calendar every year, and my performance, equipment decisions, and every little advantage I can try to get revolves around whether it will help me win that tournament. (Picture below of me winning the tournament in 2022, no comment on 2023 results).

    The strength of my game is certainly off the tee. I can hit it far, and for most courses I play, it sets me up to have short iron or wedges on basically all Par 4s and the chance to get home in 2 on all Par 5s. As it stands today, I am a 7.8 handicap, which to me is kind of a tipping point between a really good golfer and just a pretty good golfer. I have good rounds and bad rounds but am fighting to make my good rounds much more consistent. In that fight, I have tried to shave fractions of strokes off by looking at everything for an advantage: course strategy, equipment setup, practice methods, etc. I believe SwingU can provide me with some data to better understand where I need to improve and, more importantly, how to improve. I am excited to get started and looking forward to being able to provide all the members insight into my journey and how I think this product can help me be a better golfer.
    As far as my plan for testing goes, I plan to use this app in a different way every time I play to see how much it benefits me. Currently, I use the Grint app, but only for score tracking and the small amount of free stats it provides. I typically don't love using my phone all the time on the course, and I do not wear a watch while playing. So, throughout this process, I want to play rounds and use this app in varying levels of involvement in my rounds: inputting data after the round, only using it for distances, using it for scorekeeping, and then using it 100% for everything, including club selection. This will give me a good gauge of how valuable this information is for me, and hopefully, I will be able to communicate it to you guys to determine if it is something you are interested in learning more about. If at any point during this review there is something specific you would like me to show or do on the app, please reach out on this thread or via DM, and I will be more than happy to include it in my next weekly review.
    Looking forward to getting this started, I've got a round scheduled at TPC Sawgrass Stadium Course in 3 weeks. If I hit the ball in the water on 17, then I will blame SwingU for the wrong club selection!
     
    First Impressions
    Turns out that I previously downloaded and created an account for this app but just have not used it for a few years.  I am sure this is the period when I was trying to find an app that worked for score/stat tracking and handicap tracking.  Anyways loading and opening up the app is as simple as any app on an iPhone, and quickly navigating thru the home screen and some of the other offerings was smooth and simple. Below is the home screen when you first log into the app, it has your basic stats listed in the middle, a link toward all your played rounds and then a button to start a new round.  The black bar on the bottom is how you navigate thru different areas of the app.

    On the play tab you can search 1,000 courses they have available (seriously I typed in every course I can remember playing and they had everything).  I was quickly able to find a few that I play regularly and saved them as my favorite courses.

    The drills tab was a bit overwhelming, there are a TON of drills available for you to review.  I will admit that after I carded my round of 88 with 38 putts I felt slightly attacked how much they insisted I use a couple putting drills.  But that is how the app works, it determines all your data and provides input on how to improve.

    I was finally able to get on the course and use it this weekend and wanted to share a few things that I really enjoyed about it.  The first one is this map that shows varying distances when approaching the green.  It really allowed me to have some thought of club selection and not just take the closest club to the pin.

    This was a great visual to me to see the distance to the “fat” part of the green and giving yourself more wiggle room with a miss left or right.  Very helpful and something that is difficult to do from 160 yards in the fairway.  As for the club suggestion next to the distance you’ll have to disregard that for now.  The app asks you to track every shot and every club before your swing and then stop tracking when you get to the ball.  To be honest, this is just too much for me.  It is difficult for me to remember to do this when I’m walking up to a putt or a chip shot and focusing on my next shot.  This is a feature that would be better suited for someone with a smart watch.  Also, I tried to manually input my distances as I know them, but it does not seem it allows me to do so.  The last in game feature I wanted to show was the green maps and to that note please know this is the last green map I will be able to share because when I screen shot it it sent me a notification that screen shots are not allowed and doing so again will lock me out of the green map feature.  But because I like you guys so much I am going to share this one with you.

    This is a really cool feature but to me it just seems like information overload.  I can see how this can be extremely valuable, but I would need to really get into the weeds on this for it to be a tool for me.  I suppose that’s why I had 38 putts on Saturday…
    Next, I want to show some of the strokes gained stats that were generated from just this one round.  All these stats are all set against a scratch player, which is different than the strokes gained stats you see on the PGA Tour.  The PGA Tour sets theirs against the Tour average.  The way SwingU does it is obviously the best way for amateurs and casual golfers to compare themselves.  Below are some the stats that don’t completely embarrass myself that I am willing to share.


    Lastly I wanted to share the email that SwingU sends you when your round is completed.  I know this is not much but I love these, it’s a way for me review my round quickly and get a refresher of what went well and what went wrong.  Overall this app has way more data and information available than anything I have used in the past (Grint, 18Birdies, GHIN) I am excited to figure out exactly what data will help me both on the course and off the course as I continue to put more rounds in.  I am scheduled for 2 more rounds this week so I should get to 3 round minimum to determine a handicap and start to build these strokes gained stats up a little more.

     
    First Impressions (9 out of 10)
    This app offers a refreshingly intuitive experience, in my opinion. Navigating the app store to find it was a breeze, thanks to the absence of confusingly similar names. Downloading and logging in were equally straightforward processes. Upon launching the app and bypassing the login screen, everything you need is right at your fingertips. The interface is thoughtfully designed, with clear labels and easy navigation.
    I'm not giving it a perfect 10 out of 10 because the app's simplicity sometimes hides its full potential. For instance, it took me a while to discover the course explorer section, a hidden gem in their catalog. This feature deserves more prominent placement on the home screen, as it's one of the app's standout offerings.
    Overall, this app prioritizes simplicity while delivering a wealth of data for users to draw their own conclusions. As a data enthusiast, it provides precisely what I crave—minimal fluff and pure, unadulterated facts.
     
    The Numbers (20 out of 20)
    This is where this app truly sets itself apart from other golf tracking apps, and its standout feature is its unparalleled ability to provide valuable insights based on the data you input. Beyond offering precise distance measurements for every imaginable spot on the course (the green distance chart, as mentioned in my earlier review, is particularly impressive), SwingU excels in delivering two major metrics that offer distinct perspectives: Strokes Gained and Relative Handicap. These metrics are further divided into subcategories, including Drive, Approach, Chip/Pitch, Sand, and Putting, which contribute to an overall score or rating.
    Strokes Gained utilizes your data to assess how many strokes you gain or lose compared to a scratch player. On the other hand, Relative Handicap evaluates your performance in each subcategory relative to golfers of a similar handicap. For instance, if your driving was stellar but your putting struggled on a day when you shot an 80, you might be rated as a 2 handicap for driving and a 25 handicap for putting. Despite a round differential of approximately 8-10 strokes, this analysis provides a clear breakdown of your performance in different aspects of the game.
    While I've logged only about 10 rounds into this app, I haven't delved fully into the intricacies of these metrics yet. However, my initial usage, coupled with the suggested drills and practice plans the app offers, has already yielded positive results for me.
     
    On-Course (18 out of 20)
    The more I committed to utilizing this product, the more I appreciated its capabilities. It truly shines when it comes to intermediate distances and providing hole-by-hole layouts. I discovered its immense value on courses I hadn't played before, where gaining a better understanding of hole layouts and strategic aiming points helped me save multiple strokes. Initially, I cross-referenced the distances with my rangefinder, but as the app consistently landed within 1-2 yards of accuracy, I grew to trust it completely.
    The app also boasts a wind feature, which I admittedly overlooked. While it could offer a glimpse into general wind speeds in the area, I'm not inclined to rely on any weather type apps. The only aspect of the app's on-course performance that didn't entirely win me over is the process of inputting scores after each hole. This required a round or two of trial and error to get the hang of, but once mastered, it only takes about 20-30 seconds in the cart before your next tee shot. It's not that the process is overly complex, but I've found it necessary to input all data while it's still fresh in your mind, especially regarding the first putt distance.  This is just something I don’t always love to do while playing and found the data can suffer when I try to input after the round.
     
    The Good, the bad, the inbetween (17 out of 20)
    I'd like to touch on a few aspects of the app that haven't been covered extensively in other sections, without reiterating points already made.
    First, the practice drill section is impressively extensive, offering a wide array of drills tailored to areas of your game that need improvement. While this is undoubtedly valuable, my personal philosophy on golf instruction differs slightly. I'm somewhat cautious about relying too heavily on instructional videos to learn. Many of these drills are simple and don't require major swing changes, but I mention my hesitancy to dive too deep into golf training videos and potentially get lost in the information overload. Personally, I tend to avoid this approach.
    I previously highlighted the course explorer section's benefits, which allowed me to familiarize myself with a course before playing it. This feature gave me insights into the optimal distances and club choices for aiming at the most forgiving parts of the fairway or green. It essentially helps you establish a game plan for your round, which, in my experience, often leads to improved scoring.
    However, I must deduct three points for a relatively minor issue: the app's lack of integration with GHIN handicaps. While this may seem trivial, it's somewhat frustrating to have to manually input scores, especially when striving for simplicity and minimizing the number of apps and devices. It's worth noting that the app developers may be working to address this, but it's an inconvenience that warrants consideration. Perhaps the real question is whether the deduction should be aimed at the folks at USGA and GHIN instead.
     
    Play it or Trade it?  (18 out of 20)
    In the realm of golf data, this app stands out as one of the best offerings I've encountered in a user-friendly format. As I've mentioned, I've logged only 10 rounds so far, but I'm eagerly anticipating the opportunity to explore how these metrics evolve over the course of a full golf season or two, especially when paired with various practice plans and strategies.
    The only drawback, in my opinion, is the need to have your phone with you on the course at all times to fully harness the app's capabilities. The golf course, for me, is a sanctuary where I often seek a break from technology. Embracing this app to its fullest extent requires constant phone presence, which can be a minor inconvenience.
    Nevertheless, this is a product I intend to continue using. When I commit to using it on the course, I genuinely appreciate its performance and the valuable insights it provides.
     
    Conclusion
    SwingU sets itself apart from other golf apps by delivering personalized data tailored to enhance your game like no other. At its core, it's a superb GPS tool, offering easy access,  intermediate distances and comprehensive green maps. However, it has the potential to become your virtual caddie, providing invaluable guidance throughout your rounds.
    The app's value hinges on how extensively you embrace its offerings. If you fully commit to utilizing its features, it undoubtedly justifies its cost and then some. However, if you only intend to use it for scorekeeping and basic GPS functionality, you might not find it as worthwhile.
    I've personally experienced some of my best rounds when I've leveraged the app's full capabilities. It helps keep you locked in and focused before and during your round, contributing significantly to your performance. I intend to continue using and experimenting with this app for the foreseeable future, as it has proven to be a valuable asset in my golf journey.
     
    Final Score (92 out of 100)
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    DeBartola_B reacted to Wrong_Fairway in SwingU Golf App - 2023 Forum Review   
    Great questions, @DeBartola_B. I'll answer them in the order you asked:
     
    1. Your SwingU handicap/target handicap is irrelevant to the relative handicap numbers shown above. We are generating these numbers based purely off the results of your shots vs. our database of over a million rounds, and assigning them an individual relative handicap for each facet. 
    To give a singular example using Driving, an easy way to understand these numbers is to think of each facet as a standalone. In other words, if there were no other parts of the game other than driving, your handicap would be around a 17. This is based off your average strokes gained vs. scratch.
    To go further, looking at your round shared from The Chimneys in #3, your SG: Driving vs. Scratch was -3.1. For that round, your relative handicap for driving was 15. That's to say that if you lose 3.1 strokes to scratch every round driving the ball, if driving were the only part of the game, you would be a 15 handicap. Let me know if that makes sense.
     
    2. This is the correct assumption. The "handicap levels" are what we refer to often as "relative handicaps," or what was discussed in #1. Your SwingU handicap or handicap index - however you'd like to refer to it - is a facsimile to the GHIN handicap, using a formula based off course rating/slope and differential. These are two separate things.
     
    3. This one is an interesting one, and to be honest, one I needed a little schooling on to understand why these numbers aren't zeroing out, ie. you shot 4-over par, why isn't your SG vs. scratch -4.0. 
    The short answer is that every hole in our system starts with an assumed value of par, ie. a par-4 has a 4.0 value. However, as we know a 490-yard par-4 and a 315-yard par-4 are not created equally and 99 times out of 100 will play to a different stroke average. 
    To account for this, we use an algorithm that takes into account the course rating and slope. The strokes gained values we have in the system are similar to what you'll see from a GHIN handicap differential, but not apples to apples, which is why you're seeing a larger negative SG vs. scratch number than the 4.4 differential used for your handicap.
    Put differently, if you shot the same 76 at The Chimneys from a longer set of tees with a course rating and slope of, say 73.5/130 vs. the 71.1/125, your SG vs. scratch would likely be less than the 4-over par you shot.
    More often than not, the score to par, differential and SG vs. scratch will be relatively close, but likely not the exact same. 
     
    Let me know your thoughts on that or any further questions you may have. As always, happy to move to a DM or phone call if it would be more beneficial.
     
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from Wrong_Fairway in SwingU Golf App - 2023 Forum Review   
    I was able to play a few rounds this last week where I have mostly been just practicing or playing 2-3 holes in the evening.  With that came some app updates and another questions I had for @Wrong_Fairway.  Forgive me if this has already been covered but I am curious about a few things.
    1. Are the Handicap Level metrics weighted a certain way based on your handicap?  Trying to figure out how a blend like what is shown is calculated into the handicap that is shown?
     

     
    2. This brings me to my next question, I am assuming that the Handicap Levels are using all data that we provide, whereas the handicap index is only using the top 8 scores, or however many used to calculate less than 20 rounds?
    3. And finally, similar questions but for the SG vs Scratch stats.  Below are screenshots showing the round as a differential of a 4.4 but the SG vs Scratch show me losing 6.2 strokes.  Is this to assume that a typical scratch player would be expected to have a +1.8 differential on this course?

     
     
    I know I am making a lot of assumptions here but just trying to get a better understanding of how these metrics are calculated.  Shot a PR 76 at this course on the first time I was playing it, I contribute a lot of that of being able to do some course research before thru the Course Explorer feature and using the GPS during the round to get some solid distances of spots to hit.  Loving this experience so far.
     
    Thanks in advance for the response.
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from cksurfdude in SwingU Golf App - 2023 Forum Review   
    I was able to play a few rounds this last week where I have mostly been just practicing or playing 2-3 holes in the evening.  With that came some app updates and another questions I had for @Wrong_Fairway.  Forgive me if this has already been covered but I am curious about a few things.
    1. Are the Handicap Level metrics weighted a certain way based on your handicap?  Trying to figure out how a blend like what is shown is calculated into the handicap that is shown?
     

     
    2. This brings me to my next question, I am assuming that the Handicap Levels are using all data that we provide, whereas the handicap index is only using the top 8 scores, or however many used to calculate less than 20 rounds?
    3. And finally, similar questions but for the SG vs Scratch stats.  Below are screenshots showing the round as a differential of a 4.4 but the SG vs Scratch show me losing 6.2 strokes.  Is this to assume that a typical scratch player would be expected to have a +1.8 differential on this course?

     
     
    I know I am making a lot of assumptions here but just trying to get a better understanding of how these metrics are calculated.  Shot a PR 76 at this course on the first time I was playing it, I contribute a lot of that of being able to do some course research before thru the Course Explorer feature and using the GPS during the round to get some solid distances of spots to hit.  Loving this experience so far.
     
    Thanks in advance for the response.
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from tdc1 in SwingU Golf App - 2023 Forum Review   
    I was able to play a few rounds this last week where I have mostly been just practicing or playing 2-3 holes in the evening.  With that came some app updates and another questions I had for @Wrong_Fairway.  Forgive me if this has already been covered but I am curious about a few things.
    1. Are the Handicap Level metrics weighted a certain way based on your handicap?  Trying to figure out how a blend like what is shown is calculated into the handicap that is shown?
     

     
    2. This brings me to my next question, I am assuming that the Handicap Levels are using all data that we provide, whereas the handicap index is only using the top 8 scores, or however many used to calculate less than 20 rounds?
    3. And finally, similar questions but for the SG vs Scratch stats.  Below are screenshots showing the round as a differential of a 4.4 but the SG vs Scratch show me losing 6.2 strokes.  Is this to assume that a typical scratch player would be expected to have a +1.8 differential on this course?

     
     
    I know I am making a lot of assumptions here but just trying to get a better understanding of how these metrics are calculated.  Shot a PR 76 at this course on the first time I was playing it, I contribute a lot of that of being able to do some course research before thru the Course Explorer feature and using the GPS during the round to get some solid distances of spots to hit.  Loving this experience so far.
     
    Thanks in advance for the response.
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from Josh Ross in SwingU Golf App - 2023 Forum Review   
    On course my favorite part is the green view showing distances every 3-5 yards on the green. This is much more in depth than just a front middle back distance and is a great visual to see where the fat part of the green is. 
     
    Off the course the SG metrics are a lot of fun to dig into, I am looking forward to continuing to input more and more scores to see how the stats adjust.
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from Fred Mitchell in What Have You Built Recently?   
    A small screw into the holes of the applicator works as well.
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from TSauer in What Have You Built Recently?   
    A small screw into the holes of the applicator works as well.
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from Fred Mitchell in What Have You Built Recently?   
    I have probably done 6-7 clubs on this dispenser and have ~30% remaining in the tubes.  That also comes with a few learning experiences so take that for what its worth.
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from GolfSpy_APH in What Have You Built Recently?   
    I love this thread!

    I wouldnt call myself a "club maker" mostly because I have never done so before, but I am interested in starting up.  I found an old set of Cobra irons at Goodwill that were the same kind of irons I learned how to golf with.  They arent valuable at all but sentimental and I would love to clean them up and have them be a set my kids can learn to play with.
    Has anyone done any sort of club refurbishing?  Or any tips of setting up clubs for 8-12 years from an adult set?  Thanks in advance.
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from Dave73nl in SwingU Golf App - 2023 Forum Review   
    On course my favorite part is the green view showing distances every 3-5 yards on the green. This is much more in depth than just a front middle back distance and is a great visual to see where the fat part of the green is. 
     
    Off the course the SG metrics are a lot of fun to dig into, I am looking forward to continuing to input more and more scores to see how the stats adjust.
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from Wrong_Fairway in SwingU Golf App - 2023 Forum Review   
    On course my favorite part is the green view showing distances every 3-5 yards on the green. This is much more in depth than just a front middle back distance and is a great visual to see where the fat part of the green is. 
     
    Off the course the SG metrics are a lot of fun to dig into, I am looking forward to continuing to input more and more scores to see how the stats adjust.
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    DeBartola_B got a reaction from GolfSpy_APH in SwingU Golf App - 2023 Forum Review   
    On course my favorite part is the green view showing distances every 3-5 yards on the green. This is much more in depth than just a front middle back distance and is a great visual to see where the fat part of the green is. 
     
    Off the course the SG metrics are a lot of fun to dig into, I am looking forward to continuing to input more and more scores to see how the stats adjust.
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    DeBartola_B reacted to acatalano32 in SwingU Golf App - 2023 Forum Review   
    So I had my first round with verses, I definitely thought it was something playing against others or I would have turned it on my first round lol.
    Definitely a learning curve for sure, took me a few holes to try and understand everything that it was asking. I do really like the stats it tracks. It was 102 degrees and I played after work, so I didn’t play my greatest round ever but hey, that’s golf.  
    my approach play is definitely my weakness, I will be keeping verses on for the remainder of forever on this app 👍🏼
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