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@SuperSpeed Golf After my last post, I re-read the FAQs on you site, and then decided to weigh the clubs as well as my driver to see how I match up against the -20%, -10%, and +5% differences versus the driver mentioned in the FAQs.
Turns out the SS clubs are somewhere around -13%, -3% and +12% compared to my driver (Taylormade M4 I got last July). I think having SS clubs skewing heavier like that is probably pretty negligible, or may even work in my favor, but am curious whether you have looked at any data on the relative weights skewing one way or the other.
Now I'm also telling myself my potential driver speed is closer to my blue numbers than the red numbers, as I had been thinking given the relative weights. So even if that's wrong, please don't tell me
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Week 2 of the second level is in the books. Had my best session yet today, which was a surprise because my right should has been a little stiff & sore the past few days (Why? Who knows, I'm 56
) and with the outdoor temperature about 7 right now, even the garage is pretty cold. Broke the 100 mph barrier in a couple of new columns, pretty psyched about that!
Like some others have mentioned, I was a little concerned early on about what trying to swing as fast as I can would do to my form, but I'm starting to feel that is actually is starting to help because my body needs to move more efficiently to swing faster and my brain is now starting to make adjustments which turn into better form. And I believe that is the whole basis underlying SuperSpeed Golf's system. I don't believe that specifically stated on SuperSpeed's website, unless I missed it, but it fits right in with Adam Young's training philosophy - and that's kind of how I got here: Adam Young's blog mentioned Jon Sherman's Practical Golf Site, where I read Jon's review of SSG, which had a comment from someone that linked to this review.
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3 hours ago, perseveringgolfer said:
Excellent- now that's an increase that's well worth it- now to find me some speed stick supplier.
Keep us posted on your progress once you get started.
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5 minutes ago, sirchunksalot said:
We can't handle snow here in the south.
It’s all about the snow removal equipment! You don’t need it enough to have to buy it, so you’re stuck when it does snow.
On the other hand, I really don’t like it when temp gets above about 88 or 90. We get maybe 10 or 12 days a year of 90 most summers and everyone gets real cranky
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32 minutes ago, Bucky CC said:
Nice Stage 2 Calypso. Interesting that the two cold winter guys have given the product the lowest reviews so far. I like the product but I’m seeing the exact same “stuck indoors” issues that you are.
Did you see it was colder in Wisconsin than the South Pole station in Antarctica today? Why do we live here again?
Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyWell, it is summer in Antarctica...
As someone who grew up in northern NY state, I have to say the balmy winters here in southeastern Massachusetts are pretty wimpy compared to the 100+ inches of snow and temps in the teens I was used to as a kid (they wouldn't call off school until wind chill hit 30 below). But we knew spring was really on the way when it warmed up enough to melt the cow manure around mid-April, if you catch my drift (like we used to on the bus ride home from school).
Anyway, having to swing in a garage or somewhere inside is definitely less than ideal for us cold-weather guys, but if it wasn't for SuperSpeed Golf, I'd be sitting on the couch watching NCAA hoops or skiing just knowing it would be mid-May before I started making progress on my swing.
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3 hours ago, GregB135 said:
Just finished Week 6/Day 2. This is the last week of the beginner/starter protocol for me. So far, I've seen my green club max speed increase from 110 to 116, and my recorded driver swings from 95 to 103.
I"m playing in a scramble event this weekend so should have the opportunity to see if I'm getting any distance gains from that. (Of course, the ball landing in the fairway more often would be just as welcome)
I will probably send another email to the SS folks to see if they will offer up the ASD protocols. Sounds like a good way to coordinate with my coach to target improvement and incorporate the SS training into my regular sessions.
Nice work!
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15 hours ago, sirchunksalot said:
They do have a self assessment you can do for people that don't have access to the technology that some would use to determine what protocols to use.
I know you live in an area where it's cold and you deal with snow, so the turf tear test might not be feasible for a little while, but I think you said you would be hitting week 20 when it warms up. Go outside and take a couple of swings in the grass and check to see if you damaged your yard. I did one yesterday and this is what I'm looking at:
If you don't see significant damage you'll need to do the ASD protocol for ground contact.
To see if you need to improve sequencing, take a regular swing and record the speed. Then take a half swing trying to match the previous swing and if it's more than seven percent off, you'll need to do the sequencing protocol.
The lag test will involve you recording your swing facing the camera. You'll want to check and see if you're keeping lag through the downswing. This is where I wish I had one of those high speed cameras like they use on Mythbusters. That's a little expensive for me. They do have 1/4 speed playback on YouTube that you might be able to take advantage of.
I'm sure someone with more technical knowledge might be able to explain better. If you need videos of the ASD protocols, I'll be happy to send them to you in a PM.
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Thanks for all that information! I definitely don't tear up the grass like that at all, so I don't need to wait for spring before knowing I can use the ground contact protocol
. I know I also need work on the sequencing & lag too, so I'll be able to use all three of these protocols over the spring and summer.
I recently ran across an app that allows you to do slow motion playback on your phone: https://www.hudl.com/products/technique - there's both a iPhone/iPad and Android version, and the basic app is free. I downloaded it but haven't really tried it out yet, just did a quick video of my hand moving to see how it works. You can play back at full speed, 1/2, 1/4, and 1/8 speed, and there is a drawing tool.
That would be great if you could send me the videos of the ASD protocols, I really appreciate that! Thanks sirchunksalot!
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15 hours ago, tchat07 said:
Could the superspeed folks hook us up with the ASD stuff I would love to see it?
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I sent an email to [email protected] asking about it, and they sent me a PDF with the protocols, and also suggested it would be best to find a certified TPI/Superspeed trainer, or possibly look at a certification program they will be rolling out in the near future, but that appears to be geared to instructors, not a novice like me. Looking at the descriptions, it looks like something I would need to work with someone on, at least for an assessment.
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5 hours ago, revkev said:
These are the focused protocols that we've been talking about. SuperSpeed has identified three common swing flaws that inhibit club head speed. When they are working with their professional clients they have high tech ways of testing for those flaws. They've actually developed simpler tests that we are able to perform at home.
There are three ASD (Advanced Speed Development) protocols each meant to address the swing flaws of poor turf interaction, swing sequencing issues or lag issues. With as gracious as SuperSpeed has been I'm sure that they would email the at home tests for you that or you could ask your teacher (if you have one.) My teacher had no problem telling me which one to do - he was very impressed by it actually - the drill that he gave me has me trying to hit fades from a feet together closed stance with a 7 iron to start - if I can do that I get to move up all the way to fairway wood - the divot and the ball most start left and curve right - no cheating by hitting a block fade allowed. I've gotten much better at that drill since the kneel down swings started - the ASD 2 that I'm going to start is kneel down on steroids.
Break out the Greek Yogurt for that!
BTW Daisy told me not to start until week 20 so she must like you Bucky!
Thanks revkev. I'll drop them a note to ask, I can use all the help I can get
For me, week 20 will be at the end of April, so just in time for me to be able to get outdoors again.
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16 hours ago, Bucky CC said:
Talked to Daisy and she said it’s perfectly fine to start the ASD sessions before week 20. Not sure how I’m going to do the turf test with a foot of snow coming tonight but I’ll figure something out.
Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyWhat are the ASD sessions?
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22 hours ago, sirchunksalot said:
Great numbers Mike! I don't think it'll be too long before you're seeing more triple digits making an appearance on the chart. Hopefully the thumb will feel better soon and you can get back to swinging without pain or worry.
It's nice to see another high handicapper giving SuperSpeed a go, mine is currently sitting at 26.3 on Arccos. I think the extra distance is going to make a difference for us all.
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Thanks man!
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Finished the first week with the kneeling protocol. Boy, am I glad I saw those posts about the kneeling pad, I got the SS pad last month so was ready to go. Very comfy!
A little slower this week since I accidentally nicked my left thumb cutting some veggies Sunday - luckily the thumbnail took the brunt, there's a nice clean slice across about 2/3 of it. It's fine, but it was hard to convince my body to swing full speed on my first session the next day and even today a little. Still not sure how I managed that, but it's probably related to having a 32 handicap
The first few kneeling swings were interesting, but I think I got used to them pretty quickly, although I've still only cracked 90 on one swing. My step swings have been slower than my regular swings all along, but they are almost caught up now. Probably overthinking the movement of the lead foot back and the little press forward to start the swing. Probably also related to both the thumb and the handicap...
Hoping to see some triple-digit numbers start showing up in a few more columns soon.
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17 hours ago, joen said:
I thought long and hard about getting the radar but I decided against it. My big concern is that I don’t want to get so wrapped up with hitting numbers so that I lose my form. I could very well be wrong in my thought process. I hit balls with my seven iron on my Skytrak before my swing speed session....and after I am finished I hit some more balls....and I have noticed a yardage increase already with what feels like the same effort and in balance swing.
I agree with what revkev said, don't worry about form, the idea is just to convince your brain and muscles that they can move a little faster than what they do now. You need the swing speeds to know whether or not you actual are progressing - I think that is part of showing your brain proof that it's possibly to swing faster.
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5 hours ago, revkev said:
Seriously it could be that you aren’t interacting with the ground properly. A hidden benefit of SuperSpeed is that they do provide some swing fix drills in level three - after week 20.
When you get there Mike you may wish to consider the ground interaction one - I think that’s the first one. It’s a special protocol that will replace your level 3 protocol one day a week. Pretty cool - huh!
We could really address that in our review because we were only going through week 14.
Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyThanks, that makes a lot of sense, I haven't really thought about ground interaction before. I bookmarked an article on about ground contact on (I think) Adam Young's site, but haven't read it yet.
Also, I'll definitely give the ground interaction drills a try when I get there, thanks for the tip!
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12 hours ago, tchat07 said:
For you guys doing the training inside what kind of shoes are you using? I have tried a pair of Nikes and New Balances but the repeated motion is making the sole come off on both. Tried a pair of golf shoes on a rug and had the same problem as rev with not getting good traction, took about 3-5 mph off.
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I just use a pair of old Nike sneakers, cross-trainers of some sort. Since I'm doing the training in the garage, I haven't had any issues with slipping, and also haven't had any trouble with the soles coming loose. Maybe that means I'm not swinging hard enough
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14 hours ago, Calypso55 said:
I'm out of commission for this week as well. Visiting my brother who is hospitalized. Even though I'll be down in Florida, I'm not going to be able to break away. I'll pick things up next week. (A little iffy as far as my flight taking off from Milwaukee tomorrow evening, as they're expecting a new round of snow.)
Hope your trip goes smoothly with the weather and your brother is OK.
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23 hours ago, tchat07 said:
Yeah I've been trying to stay consistent with my warmup. I do a 5 min walk on the treadmill then I do the superspeed warmup. Week 4 I had what I'm guessing was an outlier swing where I got it close to my ending number but the trend line doesn't recognize it. Maybe week 9 wil be my jump week
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I'm sure you'll get there. I try to keep my own numbers in perspective - this is a 70 week program, so the initial day-to-day ups and downs don't seem too bad on a slow day.
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On 1/18/2019 at 5:11 PM, sirchunksalot said:
@MikeLambert, keep up the great work! Those driver swing speeds without a ball are awesome! I don't think you'll have any problem reaching your target of 90 mph when there's a ball there. Everything I've heard and read has said that you're actually slower when swinging without a ball. I'm really curious to see where you're at.
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Thanks @sirchunksalot - much appreciated!
I think you are right about not having a problem getting to 90 with a ball there...I played a round of indoor golf yesterday, and the drives I hit well off the tee registered between 190 and 195 yards, which looks like around 90 mph on the club head speed graph that came with the radar. My swing is a bit all over the place, but that's OK for now since I'm just concentrating on speed.
I figure there are 3 things I need to do to improve my driving: (1) speed, which I'm doing here, (2) hitting the ball on the sweet spot, and (3) hit the ball more on the upswing to get a higher launch angle. I'll be able to start working on 2 and 3 in the spring, and maybe 2 or 3 rounds a month of indoor simulated golf over the next 2 months or so will help a little). My birthday is in March and I can order, uh...I mean ask my wife to get me a SC200 Voice Caddy (and a couple of cans of Dr Scholl's spray for my driver) just in time to be able to start getting outside. I noticed where @revkev mentioned he was getting around 210 - 220 yds at about 88 mph, so makes me think that if I can improve in all three of those areas, I should be able to get into that neighborhood if I work at it.
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OK, just finished level 1:
Those driver swings were without actually hitting a ball (but then again, so was the initial 84). It'll be interesting to see how that translates to real life, I imagine I'll have to remind myself to swing fast, not to mention practice to maintain control. If that translates to about 90, I'll be very happy. My goal when I started was to get to around 90 when I can start playing again in early to mid April, it seems like I'm about there already. On to phase 2 to start to lock in these gains!
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6 hours ago, revkev said:
I appreciate everyone's answers to Mike's question but I want to be sure that we also note that the authority, Daisy, said that it is okay to rest - in fact she is the one who suggested it when my speeds were lagging a bit at the start of level two. As I recall she mentioned a rest period of something like 20 seconds. Take that or leave it but it is what the expert suggested.
While I'd hate to see anyone make it their norm Kyle also stated that two workouts in a week are the minimum to increase and maintain speed, three is preferred however - this was when I had the head cold and also work was so hectic that it was a real struggle to fit workouts in. I did have two such two session weeks - not in succession but interspersed during the period between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I feel badly about that but life made it that way - SuperSpeed is a marathon - there will be slower miles caused by the obstacles that pop up along the way.
So @ Mike I think its very safe to take little breaks between clubs or even between swings, I followed the SuperSpeed trainers suggestion and my increases have been spot on what SuperSpeed touts. I don't know what the impact of a minute break would be however, none of us have tried that and that is not an interval that SuperSpeed mentioned. I know that they don't mind questions, why not reach out to them for an answer to that question? We'd all love to hear both the answer and your experience with their customer service.
I recently read a great comment from my fitness group through work. To get fit you don't have to be perfect - just better than what you were doing before - keep getting better at it and you will become more fit.
Most of us have lifestyles that make it impossible to be perfect in our SuperSpeed workouts - we have dogs (love that picture), and cats and kids and spouses and day jobs. Most of us never did anything to try and increase our swing speed so doing something like this as close to optimally as possible for us - will increase our driver SS.
Finally I will add that the SuperSpeed Golf team appears to be dedicated to bringing its program to golfers like us. Most of the players they've worked with in the past have had access to high tech means of testing golf swings - things like ground interaction, swing sequencing, etc. They recognize that we don't so they've developed simple tests for us to use in determining what special drills we will add into our level 3 protocols in order to help increase our SS's further. It's pretty cool to be working with a group that gets our limitations. It's very cool to realize that we are a test group not only for helping the consumer but for helping the OEM in improving it's product and service.
Thanks for your thoughtful response, that was really a great post RevKev! That makes a lot of sense, especially not having to be perfect, just better than before.
Thanks also to everyone else that replied too. I'm going to keep on doing what I have been, which it stopping just long enough to jot down my numbers, maybe take a few sips of water, and grab the next club. But if I notice a good size drop-off in speed, I'll take a 1 minute break and see if that makes a difference.
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4 hours ago, yungkory said:
Like others said, I stop to record max speed after each club protocol. Only other time is if the dogs get too close and start yelling at me and the speed radar
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That's awesome.
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8 hours ago, revkev said:
We have a variety of ages and fitness levels in the group so you may get a variety of answers here. The only rest that I took in our first level was to write numbers in the switch between clubs - obviously that wasn't much of a rest and I got to where I could complete the entire protocol in 20 minutes.
The kneeling swings really killed me. I didn't have anything but a towel the first couple of weeks and I was in a good deal of pain the day after workouts. Daisy and also Raven, my trainer for my fitness program, made several suggestions. I started using a Pad for the kneeling swings. I had a handful of almonds prior to working out and a portion of Greek Yogurt after the workout (was much better at reducing pain than advil or IBprofin and obviously healthier.) Daisy, the SuperSpeed expert also suggest small rests between club switches - small. There's no harm in regards to the program for we guys who are a bit longer in the tooth.
I hope that helps.
I remember reading a while back about the kneeling swings being tough on the knees and SS sending you guys the kneeling pads. I actually bought one last month so that I'm ready to go next week when I start the kneeling swings myself.
I haven't heard before that Greek yogurt is good at reducing pain, I'll have to give that a try (with some blueberries mixed in of course!). I keep the ibuprofin at a minimum since I understand it can be tough on the liver is you take it a lot.
I'll experiment a little with a 1 or 2 minute rest between clubs to see if that makes any difference. My teeth aren't too long just yet (coming up on 57), so that should be plenty.
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Thanks, this does answer my question. Based on similar answers from some of the other posters here, that’s what I’ve settled into. It’s good to get confirmation, but even better, the underlying concepts of getting my brain to learn faster speeds.