tony@CIC Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Interesting article this morning about a cheating scandal at Michigan High Schools. The theme of the article is around using technology to eliminate that in the future. I wish the article also included how they dealt with the coaches and the players! https://www.golfdigest.com/story/a-major-high-school-golf-cheating-scandal-leads-to-implementation-of-new-scoring-system-for-2019 Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 This article caused me to research the original controversy. https://www.freep.com/story/sports/high-school/2018/06/07/anchor-bay-lanse-creuse-qualify-state-golf-amid-controversy/682722002/ Looking over some scores on Birdie Fire, the kids on these two teams, with the exception of one, struggled all season to break 90. Somehow, in the regional finals, they are posting individual scoring averages of 71. Hummmmm!?!?!? One of the schools has taken down the golf portion of the school athletic website while the other school has taken the entire athletic website down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I read the Free Press online every day, so I saw this awhile back. I played HS golf in Michigan, and I’ve coached golf for years, so this ROYALLY ticked me off. The coaches ought to be prevented from coaching ANY sport in Michigan again, and the kids who cheated prevented from playing in matches ever again. I’m old school. Teach them ALL a lesson so it never happens again. No “excuses”, as this was premeditated....Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Just now, PMookie said: I read the Free Press online every day, so I saw this awhile back. I played HS golf in Michigan, and I’ve coached golf for years, so this ROYALLY ticked me off. The coaches ought to be prevented from coaching ANY sport in Michigan again, and the kids who cheated prevented from playing in matches ever again. I’m old school. Teach them ALL a lesson so it never happens again. No “excuses”, as this was premeditated.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro If I understand correctly, the two schools suspected of cheating are within close proximity to one another and share the same home course. Is this correct? If so, it's very hard to imagine this not being premeditated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfcoach.jp Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I'm a high school golf coach in Colorado where we are required to use iWannamaker for scoring our events. For those not familiar, iWannamaker is an online scoring app that can record real time hole-by-hole scores and allow parents not on site to see how their players are doing. It could also be used by coaches to monitor scores during a round. It does not necessarily prevent cheating of the sort that occurred in this case because if whoever is entering the scores has agreed to enter false scores for all the players, there is nothing to stop that. However, it would allow someone who is watching to possibly recognize that something fishy is going on and send someone to monitor any players with questionable looking scores. They wouldn't necessarily be able to do anything about scores on already completed holes, but their presence might prevent any additional cheating from happening. At the regional events (where players qualify for the state championship) that my team participates in, we make sure the host school recruits volunteer markers so that a marker walks with each group to verify and enter their scores into iWannamaker. Prior to us using iWannamaker, we also had markers who walked with the groups. iWannamaker has its pluses and minuses. I personally am not a fan of making the players enter scores to the app between holes. I feel it is a distraction to what they should be focusing on (the upcoming shot). When our team hosts an event, we try to get volunteers (usually players from the girl's team during boys season, or players from the boy's team during girls season) to be stationed every few holes to collect and post scores from the passing groups. Sometimes we ask the coaches to do it for the groups that contain their players. As a coach who has experience observing kids who have tried to cheat, I don't think iWannamaker is really much of a solution. Oversight at important events for each group through all 18 holes is much more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Thanks for the insights @golfcoach.jp! It's pretty darn sad that an adult would find the need to win so important they would do this. G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaussman1 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 There is no chance these coaches did not know what was going on. Kids are immature and will get away with whatever they can get away with. The coaches should have been dismissed for accepting those scores. They had to know better. Rogue SZ 10.5 *NEW* Fujikura Pro Green 65 X Rogue 15 degree Evnflow Blue 6.5 Back in the Bag Z765 4-G Nippon Modus 120 Stiff 54 and 60 Amazing Grace Ass Kicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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