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New to the website and was seeing if anyone had some good insight on the new Ai Smoke driver from Callaway. I currently have the Paradym and like It a lot but have heard some great things about the Ai smoke. Wondering if it’s worth the trade up or just stick with what works? I know they are doing some product testing with the Ai smoke, but seeing if anyone switch from paradym to the Ai smoke recently?

Whole bag is Callaway minus my wedges that are titliest.  

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Hey!  Welcome to the forum.  There are a few on here that have hit both and could chime in.  

@Javs @GolfSpy_APH

Here is the current testing for the AI Smoke TEST

:callaway-small: Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S

:ping-small: 3W

:srixon-small: MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V

:srixon-small: MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V

:titleist-small: Vokey Wedges 50* 54* 58*

:L.A.B.: DF2.1 Putter

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I have hit both TD’s and the Smoke was more fade biased for me. They look identical minus the gloss black vs gloss navy. 

 

 

 

What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag

Driver:    :cobra-small: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45”

Fairway: :srixon-small: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5”

 :srixon-small: F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5"

Driving Iron: :ping-small: Rapture 2-Iron 

Irons: :edel-golf-1: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s 

Wedges: :edel-golf-1: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s

               :ping-small: Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft

               :ping-small: Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft

Putters: :L.A.B.: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie

              :EVNROLL: EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie

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4 hours ago, Lockwood33 said:

New to the website and was seeing if anyone had some good insight on the new Ai Smoke driver from Callaway. I currently have the Paradym and like It a lot but have heard some great things about the Ai smoke. Wondering if it’s worth the trade up or just stick with what works? I know they are doing some product testing with the Ai smoke, but seeing if anyone switch from paradym to the Ai smoke recently?

As Josh stated, I actually have both. I have the Paradym TD in 8 degree and the AI Smoke TD in 9 degree. I like them both. The AI Smoke TD with Hzrdus smoke yellow is in my bag. Both easy to hit. The AI launches slightly higher and goes about 5 yards longer. I can work them both left and right. I hit them pretty long. Great clubs. 

Play like a champion today!

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@Lockwood33  Good timing on this post!

Just received the Callaway Paradym Ai Smoke Max D - have not yet unboxed it (if you can believe that) will probably do that tomorrow and on we go from there.  My link in my signature will give you the easy jump over to the just started testing thread. 

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56 minutes ago, GolfSpy_BNG said:

I have hit both TD’s and the Smoke was more fade biased for me. They look identical minus the gloss black vs gloss navy. 

Did you make any adjustments from standard that opened the face? I play both the Paradym TD and AI Smoke TD in standard and neutral 

Play like a champion today!

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1 minute ago, Javs said:

Did you make any adjustments from standard that opened the face? I play both the Paradym TD and AI Smoke TD in standard and neutral 

I played them with all fit adapters and both in the -1.5* setting to keep spin down. The Paradym is the one I should have never sold. Currently searching big time with the driver and getting frustrated lol

 

 

 

What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag

Driver:    :cobra-small: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45”

Fairway: :srixon-small: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5”

 :srixon-small: F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5"

Driving Iron: :ping-small: Rapture 2-Iron 

Irons: :edel-golf-1: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s 

Wedges: :edel-golf-1: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s

               :ping-small: Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft

               :ping-small: Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft

Putters: :L.A.B.: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie

              :EVNROLL: EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie

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13 minutes ago, GolfSpy_BNG said:

I played them with all fit adapters and both in the -1.5* setting to keep spin down. The Paradym is the one I should have never sold. Currently searching big time with the driver and getting frustrated lol

Got you and maybe the minus setting is causing the face to feel open

Play like a champion today!

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Oh the face doesn’t look open. Both set to the exact same setting, same loft, same head weight, same shaft, and similar strikes the Smoke was slightly more fade bias. It’s not an earth shattering amount but it was evident for me. 

 

 

 

What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag

Driver:    :cobra-small: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45”

Fairway: :srixon-small: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5”

 :srixon-small: F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5"

Driving Iron: :ping-small: Rapture 2-Iron 

Irons: :edel-golf-1: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s 

Wedges: :edel-golf-1: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s

               :ping-small: Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft

               :ping-small: Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft

Putters: :L.A.B.: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie

              :EVNROLL: EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie

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38 minutes ago, GolfSpy_BNG said:

Oh the face doesn’t look open. Both set to the exact same setting, same loft, same head weight, same shaft, and similar strikes the Smoke was slightly more fade bias. It’s not an earth shattering amount but it was evident for me. 

Which Smoke AI? I have the TD and since I play a neutral to open as I can draw it without help so, maybe I never noticed. 

Play like a champion today!

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3 minutes ago, Javs said:

Which Smoke AI? I have the TD and since I play a neutral to open as I can draw it without help so, maybe I never noticed. 

Both were 8* TD’s. To be fair manufacturer tolerances could play a roll  but as I said they looked identical at address for me

 

 

 

What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag

Driver:    :cobra-small: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45”

Fairway: :srixon-small: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5”

 :srixon-small: F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5"

Driving Iron: :ping-small: Rapture 2-Iron 

Irons: :edel-golf-1: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s 

Wedges: :edel-golf-1: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s

               :ping-small: Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft

               :ping-small: Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft

Putters: :L.A.B.: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie

              :EVNROLL: EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie

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Just now, GolfSpy_BNG said:

 

Both were 8* TD’s. To be fair manufacturer tolerances could play a roll  but as I said they looked identical at address for me

Makes sense to me. I will say that I did hit the Paradym TD with a more pronounced draw than the Smoke AI. So, you might be onto something

Play like a champion today!

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9 hours ago, Lockwood33 said:

New to the website and was seeing if anyone had some good insight on the new Ai Smoke driver from Callaway. I currently have the Paradym and like It a lot but have heard some great things about the Ai smoke. Wondering if it’s worth the trade up or just stick with what works? I know they are doing some product testing with the Ai smoke, but seeing if anyone switch from paradym to the Ai smoke recently?

I tried both and preferred the Paradym TD. The smoke was great, but it wasn't so much better that it made me want to switch and I prefer the look of the Paradym TD. Both had near equal numbers, just came down to looks and preference for that during my testing. 

⛳🛄 as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB
Driver:  :callaway-small: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! 

Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft

Irons:   :titleist-small: T Series - T200 5 Iron
                                          T150 6-9 Iron
                                          T100 PW/GW

Wedge:  Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree 

Putter:  Screenshot 2023-06-02 13.10.30.png Mezz Max!

Balls:     Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange)

 

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