ZackS

LOL. Absolutely conclusive proof that MTx>PV1
Whether statistically significant or outlier, clearly the Tour X worked very well for you for those nine holes! Great back nine and overall score.
I'm looking forward to giving the Tour and X a good run out.

... Good call. Here is some quantitative, qualitative, taking into consideration a central limit theorem with no extraneous variables and completely objective evidence resulting in e.g., p < 0.05 concerning the Maxfli Tour X.
... I played the front 9 today with a ProV1 and had 9 pars. I played the back 9 with a Maxfli Tour X and had 1 eagle, 2 birdies and 6 pars shooting 4 under. You literally and figuratively cannot get any more conclusively scientific than this! 🤥

I wasn't referring to the shaft in my Sacks Parente.   I have tried the Accra, TPT, BGT, UST, PXG, Kinetixx, KBS, LA Golf, and VA Composite graphite shafts.  They each have different feels.  I guess it depends on what you call "dramatic change";  on Puttlab, there were noticeable differences but  you couldn't necessarily feel the difference.   Usually when people post performance differences they are  very close and they come when looking at longer putts.  

I hope it helps.   My short game has been improving since reading the book and watching all his videos....watching enough to start getting recommendations when he appears on other channels.  

The thinner sole has always worked best for me. I used to chip in an unusual amount of times with the Hogan Ft Worth 15’s. My best wedges were the original Spin Mills before they had a bunch of different grinds. My last wedges were the M Grind and didn’t really know any better. 
I gamed these today and had 4 tap-ins and 2 hole-outs. Sure I hit some too hard or soft but perfect contact every time. I don’t play the Ft Worth 15’s anymore because they have the sweet spot of a gnat. But they were great around the green. 

Bought The Three Releases by Dan Grieve after a few horrendous rounds of chipping. I've been watching his videos after being encouraged to buy @cnosil during the Kingsmill trip. 

So much easier and quicker than traditional.  

I agree. But I see you have a Sacks Parente. I have used their blade model with the ultra light low torque graphite shaft and there was no lack of feedback there. One of the best feeling putters Ive used. I think its a head/shaft combo in my case as I am usually a blade putter and this is the first time Im using a mallet, a very soft mallet. but I may be able to adapt. Ill give it some more time. This is not a dramatic change as its a putter shaft and the tour has a similar balance point to a typical steel putter shaft. I can always remove the shaft by the head and try a typical steel both just to see if its placebo

I think the feel aspect is shaft related.   I have tried a bunch of the graphite putter shafts and the one have on order is low torque, stiff, but I could tell where I was hitting the face.  Off Center provides tactile and audible feedback so the shaft doesn't completely eliminate.  

Bought myself that is a used, kind of like new condition SQAIRZ Arrow shoes for $41 off PoshMark. They don't look too used at all. I think this was a steal. Always wanted to try them and with my current shoes having duct tape on the back since the heels are worn (and tore up my Achillies) had to bite. Excited to try them on the range this weekend and hopefully a round on Tuesday.

Yeah I don’t doubt the technology behind it. It more of what you are getting at, is it enough of a benefit for the money. They keeP tempting me with the masters additions as green is my favorite color.  Were you able to use the counter weight with it? That’s been another thing for me is I have a Edel putter and have 2, one at the bottom and one at the top of the grip. 

I have been toying with the idea of the stability but since I have been putting well it's hard to justify other then my. own curiosity. When you say a bit less feel. Do you think this is just because it's stiffer/less torque or because there is less vibration? I would think both would make mishits less noticeable but I guess that comes with making the mishits better as well. 

Yeah I don’t doubt the technology behind it. It more of what you are getting at, is it enough of a benefit for the money. They keeP tempting me with the masters additions as green is my favorite color.  Were you able to use the counter weight with it? That’s been another thing for me is I have a Edel putter and have 2, one at the bottom and one at the top of the grip. 

I have been toying with the idea of the stability but since I have been putting well it's hard to justify other then my. own curiosity. When you say a bit less feel. Do you think this is just because it's stiffer/less torque or because there is less vibration? I would think both would make mishits less noticeable but I guess that comes with making the mishits better as well. 

I dont think so. The typical counterweights dont fit in the graphite on top as its almost solid graphite. Only thing I can think of is something like a gravity grip as the superstroke counterweights wont fit either. It may be different with the non-tour model. Again, they def look cool, and Im sure there are benefits, but I cant justify the actual cost. Get a good deal and why not. If you have a double bend or a single bend, you have to cut your shaft and fit it into the graphite section as they only sell straight tips as well. So, you can def add weight to your cut shaft before installing it, but not in the typical way. More like cork n tungston powder.  

Some recent drives on the finishing hole.
It’s been a great shaft for me.   This is a tricky driving hole, so accuracy is key with a straight or slight fade to get to the right part of the fairway.

 

 

Yeah I don’t doubt the technology behind it. It more of what you are getting at, is it enough of a benefit for the money. They keeP tempting me with the masters additions as green is my favorite color.  Were you able to use the counter weight with it? That’s been another thing for me is I have a Edel putter and have 2, one at the bottom and one at the top of the grip. 

I have been toying with the idea of the stability but since I have been putting well it's hard to justify other then my. own curiosity. When you say a bit less feel. Do you think this is just because it's stiffer/less torque or because there is less vibration? I would think both would make mishits less noticeable but I guess that comes with making the mishits better as well. 

They came in a few days ago and I got them re-shafted with some ferrel's I like, decided to not finish the ferrels with acetone since I though a matte slightly rough look fits. I had a little fun with the pain fill and went ahead and did a little rusting solution. They are looking great, but since we have has scattered rain all morning not sure if I will get to go hit them at the range so they probably won't go into play for tomorrows round since it should be wet and I don't have feel for turf interaction or anything. 

I have been toying with the idea of the stability but since I have been putting well it's hard to justify other then my. own curiosity. When you say a bit less feel. Do you think this is just because it's stiffer/less torque or because there is less vibration? I would think both would make mishits less noticeable but I guess that comes with making the mishits better as well. 

Yes, the whole top of the stabilty shaft is like solid graphite and thick with 1 degree of torque and this all aluminum milled face putter was so soft to begin with, it hard to tell when you hit it off center. In theory less torque would lead to more feedback because the face is twisting less in impact  and the energy goes up the shaft. Not so with the BGT as the graphite is also a vibration damper.  I def had more feedback using the stock stepless shaft. I didnt notice it with the cleveland head which was a typical milled steel. So, if your putter face is very soft or like a white hot insert and youre a feel putter, may not be worth it. If you have a milled face scotty or Bettinardi, I can see it being a better fit or pairing, In fact if youre paying over $100, its just not worth it at all IMO. It is the tour model so its lighter than a steel shaft as well as their original model. So I also like the weighting less.
I have no idea how theyre getting away with the $200-375 I see them selling for. Speaking of Idea, these BGT shafts were invented by Barney Adams of original Adams golf fame and I am an adams fan so I like that. But If I didnt pay under 80 shipped for this shaft and new putter head, I wouldnt really reccomend it. I played 18 just this morning and while I played well, my putting was the poorest aspect and this is an incredibly forgiving mallet design so I dont know where the credit goes. Actually I do and its not the BGT cus I putted better without it, but lets give it more than 2 outings. As of now, I have the BGT and the UST frequency filtered on 2 putters and neither do anything noticably better than a regular shaft with a 50g counterweight that I typically install. Id have no problem selling it and putting an apollo stepless or KBS CT on it as it stands. See if you can demo it. What works for me may not for you however and I do seem to be slightly more consistant regarding squareness but having a harder time figuring out distance. I think I need a few more outings before I decide.

I have been toying with the idea of the stability but since I have been putting well it's hard to justify other then my. own curiosity. When you say a bit less feel. Do you think this is just because it's stiffer/less torque or because there is less vibration? I would think both would make mishits less noticeable but I guess that comes with making the mishits better as well. 

I have been toying with the idea of the stability but since I have been putting well it's hard to justify other then my. own curiosity. When you say a bit less feel. Do you think this is just because it's stiffer/less torque or because there is less vibration? I would think both would make mishits less noticeable but I guess that comes with making the mishits better as well. 

I was out ho-in’ around today. I recently bought (traded) an almost new Stealth 2 Plus driver. After a brief honeymoon period I gave the G430LST another try and there was no difference in distance, but the Ping was more forgiving and a touch higher. So I still had plenty of time to take back to 2nd Swing for full credit. 
Hummmmm. I’m not going to find a driver that saves me strokes off the tee. I did notice that my older wedges weren’t spinning enough. So off I went this morning for a wedge fitting. I determined I wanted a 54&58 and the S Grind. The SM10’s fairly expensive. But I was prepared to pay that until I found some new in the plastic SM9’s that were $100-160 cheaper for the pair. So I traded the Stealth and still have credit. 
MGA Championship this weekend so off to the short game practice area tomorrow morning. 

Fnished the Indi Putter project and love it. I dropped lots of long putts yesterday. Shaft does seem more stable. Little less feel but still very good.