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Looks near perfect. Great job. I have done this as well many times over the years. Made some notes over the years from my trial and errors. My best results are when I take my time like you did here. Also the measurement part (i.e. depth of .355 hosel, ensuring there is enough parallel tip area to sand, etc, etc). Not my favorite or preferred process for installing a shaft but sometimes it works great....sometimes .

I am very grateful/happy my sons surgery ( scapula osteochondroma ) went well this morning. Being the parent that worries too much I just wanted to post this because reading MGS forums & prayer settled my nerves while waiting. Appreciate MGS community. Sent from my SM-N960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app

From my own experience I have experienced a correlation regarding total club weights and my late round endurance. So I use to play a course like you reference (hilly) and I walked (carried my bag). It took several months but my body adjusted. Actually got to where I could occasionally play 36 walking. It was during this time that I switched from heavier True Temper Dynamic Gold's to lighter graphite shafts. One of the first things I remember is I felt stronger late in my rounds. The shaft weight was a secondary concern for me going into a fitting or club demo test. The primary concern for me was total club feel/weight. Feel is subjective. I like a balanced club feel, not club head heavy and not back weight/counterbalance -- just a smooth feel. And desire a soft flex feel in lower part of my irons. In other words I like to feel a slight kick with my irons at impact. To achieve everything I like I play iron shafts anywhere in the 65 gm to 85 gm range. Driver swing speed at moment is averaging 100-103. Another thing I have learned the last several years is how to practice smarter, work out and rest properly and stretch. I only mention this as for me it makes a huge difference for me holding up during walking/playing extremely hilly courses today and/or suffering through long slow play rounds. In the past I spent too many hours on the range before playing a round and definitely did not do what I consider the little things that add up (work out properly, stretch, practice/train smarter) to health/recovery. May not apply to you but I wanted to share.

Most OEM's are not going to pay extra for a boutique premium golf shaft in a stock set offering. The primary business model is still off the rack. That drives a need for a range of flexes, type shafts that fit most golfers that walk in off the street to buy. Any premium upgrade is most likely passed on to the consumer through up charge and involves detailed fitting. There are companies like Ping that actually work to develop stock shafts that mate well to their club head designs. The general fittings at the retail level are designed to fit one into a "range" that can cover most golfers (i.e. swing speed driven through shaft flex A/R/S) that walk in off street. More in-depth fittings (i.e. AOA, spin rates in addition to swing speed, etc) provide the opportunity to dial in ones shaft needs a little further. But for retail it would not make sense to only have club heads with no shafts or carry extremely high priced sets of inventory so they carry a general set make up from a company that has already made a deal for a low price shaft that fits a general range. Many feel the mid to high handicap golfers just need a quality club head with loft/lie that fits and a good quality shaft that the golfer can load in their swing. IMO most of today's off the shelf stock shafts suffice for mid-high handicappers that don't want detailed fittings. Anything more is next level fitting and can be more expensive shaft offerings. Many OEM's have no charge shaft upgrades but even those are not really the more expensive boutique offerings. Many are close and/or a previous high end model that is in its 2nd/3rd cycle. Years ago I figured out that you give me a seven iron there will most likely be at least +10 shaft models I could truthfully game but you give me a four iron and I definitely require a need for further fitting information to dial in the proper shaft that I can load and achieve trajectories/distances. I have changed my thinking on this subject after many years and for me it just comes down to what club set makeup I want and then I evaluate the clubs I may need a little extra help with (i.e shaft upgrade). For me its the 5 iron up to driver. Anything more and I really spending extra $$ I could save. So I don't buy new off the rack anymore unless its a previous years model and I plan to re shaft/tweak the clubs myself.

I am long time TP Mills fan. Collect and play them. Favorite all time design is the #12 . And I have one original #with the pencil/fluted shaft that I absolutely love. I have a modern hand #12 version that David Mills made for me. Pics attached of the modern #12 which has kick back hosel and bullet sole. When I play pristine fast greens this is my gamer.

Been following this thread for awhile and would like to offer some comments. I do agree with some previous posts or the intent what the poster was stating and I respectfully disagree with some statements regarding center of gravity but will speak to that in a separate future post. Having a background with club fitting, club making I think there is some confusion regarding center of gravity and what that truly is. The comments below are in reference to why/why not professionals use blades. **Disclaimer I define a blade as a muscle back style small club head. I do not define a small forged semi cavity back style a true blade -- some people do and I get that. I just want everyone to understand my descriptions below and possibly better understand what I am attempting to articulate. I welcome feedback/discussion. This is a great subject to discuss. Regarding professionals. Well my best advice is sign up and volunteer at a PGA/Champions Tour event and work the driving range. I have volunteered over 10 years for Champions Tour, a Women's US Open at Shoal Creek, and get to see what the professionals hit. I can tell you there is a mixed bag for most but some still game traditional muscle back blades and imo it might be based on the golfers age or era they came up in. (These comments are about irons and regarding professional not amateurs) Several of the LPGA players had true smaller muscle back blades. The commonalities among the LPGA's that I saw with small true muscle back irons were most were tall (i.e. appeared to be taller than me / 5'8) and I am sure they have +100 mph swing speed. But like the Champion Tour players I have seen, all the LPGA's had latest greatest hybrids, fairway woods and drivers. Absolutely enjoyed watching them tee off and practice on range. Most of the younger Champions Tour players I have seen have more modern forged cavity backs. Most of the older Champions Tour players I have seen had mixed bag of irons with some small forged cavity backs combined with true muscle back blades. All of them have the best fluid motion with every club they swing. It is mesmerizing watching them hit balls on the range. I have never seen a bad bad shot. They each have a rhythm, tempo and ball flight that is picture perfect regarding consistency swing to swing. They hit straight, move the ball left to right, etc, etc at will. I have watched Tom Watson and Bernhard Langer hit lasers with true muscle back blades and its a thing of beauty. Right beside them I have witnessed golfers ten years younger than them with more of a modern APEX style (reference model) forged cavity back like iron but same thing, picture perfect ball striking. I really believe the iron of choice is a lot about what you learned the game with possibly and influences from the era you started in. I will admit all the professionals I have seen up close and in person have the latest and greatest hybrid, fairway woods and drivers. But irons, I can almost predict based on their age/era they learned the game if they game a true muscle back forged style vs a semi blade -- forged albeit smaller cavity back (i.e. Callaway APEX).

Don't know for sure if this could be your issue but some older Wilson irons have what is called "interference" fit at base of hosel. And some have opposite thread/turn in hosel, so you have to twist opposite to loosen. I have seen discussions regarding this on other forums. Hopefully some MGS guys with knowledge can chime in and/or Internet search may provide more information. Good luck. Sent from my SM-N960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app

Good recommendations from previous posts. From personal experiences with iron inconsistencies and/or one length testing, while I very much liked mid irons at one length I did not do well with short iron one length & long iron/hybrid one length. So I did a couple of things. First had a good fitting regarding lie angle for my non single length set. Second I had my swing video taped and received instructions for several things that contributed to ball striking inconsistencies. I ended up staying with non single length irons. Sent from my SM-N960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app

So my NCAA b-ball bracket is shot (to many upsets--I should have known) and changed to watching rewind of Golf tournament. Kinda cool seeing Phil's tee shot on 18 today (~342 yards). The tee height was interesting (extremely high) to say the least. Funny thing, he carried last bunker and the drive was straight (funny part to me) .....

After a two rounds of watching this tournament the only thing predictable is how unpredictable the scores/different leaders will be at end of each round . Every day appears a new person goes low.... No idea who will be in final group Sunday or if it even matters. Winner may very well come from behind with a crazy low score.

I liked Jones comments regarding goals for the week > "calmness" & "to walk slower". A 61 in that wind with relatively fast greens, no bogies- very impressive. Also his comments remind me of the story regarding advice that Byron Nelson gave a young Tom Watson - walk slower, do everything slower ..... to help stay in rhythm and not get to rushed. I am kinda paraphrasing here. Sent from my SM-N960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app

Do you build clubs by chance? If so https:valuegolf.com look for synchron II fairwaywood components. I have built many of the higher lofted 9,11,13 woods over the years. The heads are not draw bias. Hireko golf also has a model but I believe its a newer model that is a draw bias. I am not sure if they have other high loft fairway woods. IMO Good club heads to experiment with. Only high lofted woods (metal) I liked better were original Callaway Warbirds (steel). These synchron higher lofted steel club heads (non hot face) get high flight and one can actually hold a green with. Many of the newer modern hot metals are mostly draw biased and/or seem to me to release and roll out due to hot faces. Ok in 4,5,7 maybe but guys that want higher lofts (9,11,13) in fairways usually tell me they want specific distance (inside 200 yds) that can hold a green. Imo, this is a cheap / cost effective means to achieve. May not be of interest but thought I would share. Additionally I do know several guys that still play old Ping Eye/Zing wood high loft fairway woods. Sent from my SM-N960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app

I have been looking research/for a lower cost training aid/system that is portable (i.e. I can take to range/course). Appreciate the above posts regarding critiques/link to website. Might have to try this product.

I have one club-a putter that I play on certain type fast greens/bent grass and its a hand made T.P. MILLS #12 by David Mills that I would never sell. Other than that one putter all other clubs i game are subject to be benched or sold. I do collect clubs that I won't sell and my son's first junior sets I would never sell. Also I buy many used clubs to reshaft, experiment with that eventually I sell or give to some that are just learning to play or that may not be able to afford a set of clubs. Sent from my SM-N960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app

Impressive. Congrats! Sent from my SM-N960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app

Early instinct pics: Doug Ghim Tom Hoge Chris Kirk Would be happy if picks: Phil, Ricky, Lee W. Sent from my SM-N960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app

Looks like tomorrow's final round could be interesting. I mean my first instinct says Westwood/Bryson and then I see highlights for Justin Thomas & others and maybe someone else gets hot and laps the leaders. I could never be a gambler :) Sent from my SM-N960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app

Couple of thoughts from today's scores. Happy Spieth battled back to even par. Charley Hoffman impressive run to -4. I so wish I could be unfocused and card six birdies in a round, Phil Mickelson... Ok, honestly wish I could make six birdies in a round focused or not.

Pretty neat stats discussed regarding Sergio and his top 3 performances in this tournament and the respect for his ball striking. "Best shoulder turn through ball" comment by golf channel guys.... geeez I got got a pretty good over the top shoulder move at times that I bet rivals anyone . Seriously though I wish I had Sergio's swing.

so this is a Japanese page with Anser 4. I did the google translate thing so I could at least read model names. Good pics. And a cool video but....its in Japanese so I just turned sound on mute since I don't know the language. But the website is top notch with great pics. Maybe the US Ping site will get the putter line updated on its site. here is a JP site: https://clubping.jp/product/product2021_putter.html I copied the above into translate.google.com so I could at least read model names.

Agree most definitely with Ping . Especially attention to club fitting (color codes for lie angle), perimeter weighting cast clubs and the Anser. Maybe not a game changer, Maybe not well known with current generation golfers that only buy OEM off the rack but As a long time club builder/fitting hobbyist I appreciate Tom Wishon and his research regarding golf shafts. Major influence within clubmaking/fitters community and in my opinion impacted many golf shaft designers. To me he demonstrated truth testing in his research/efforts to help fit golfers to a proper golf shaft. To me that body of work is a lot like the MGS drive & commitment to gathering quality measurable data sets to find truth in which clubs, products work/fit best to a golfer. Sent from my SM-N960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app

Lots of options, good info from previous responses. I would consider dropping 3 iron for 3/4 hybrid for purposes of better contact/less thin shots. Combined w/quality fitting you might change/upgrade shafts and get loft/lie angles tweaked. Lots of options before going all in on new set of clubs. Good luck. Sent from my SM-N960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app

Two of best things I have done for my wedge game regarding center strike consistencies was going to 3/8" vs 1/2" for differences in lengths and 2 degree flat lie angles for my wedges (specifically 62 lie angle vs common 64 std lie in most OEM wedges). Sent from my SM-N960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app

Great now one more toy to dream about & scheme about :) Seriously awesome. Sent from my SM-N960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app

Watching replay and looks like several guys had difficulty putting today. Were the greens "Augusta" like regarding speed or just the windy conditions that contributed to the high scoring? Sure the wind was main factor but greens looked fast from what I have seen so far.