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    L.A.B Putters

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    Curious how all our testers are still getting along with their L.A.B. Putters?  Personally, I’m starting to have a stretch of distance control issues with my DF 2.1. I just can’t seem to feel distance with it.  Either miles short or miles long.  Probably more me than the putter, as there are some days I drain lots of putts from 8-12ft with it. 

    Posted

    Played an afternoon 9 holes with some of my students yesterday.  I didn’t know but they were watching me on the practice green as they were walking up.  I heard from behind me, “So what do you just make everything now or something?”

    The on course putting was good. No three putts and a few good 8ft putts to save a stroke.  Very close on a few other long birdie putts as well. 

    Posted

    Alright, my totally awesome super cool complete with music, sound effects, and slow motion is finally ready!!!  This is a summary of my review and thoughts on the L.A.B. DF 2.1 putter along with a practice session.   The HD video quality might not be ready for a little while longer as it uploads through the YouTube matrix.

     

    Posted

    Played a vacation round in Florida.  Four of us played a match, scramble format.  I teamed up with with my brother in law who never plays and he putted first. Problem was, I’d tell him where to hit the putt and it was never on the line I wanted to see. So I ended up second guessing my read over and over over.  Didn’t really make many putts of significance except for one 25ft birdie.  One putt from 40ft lipped out.

    I did have 6 putts that were dead center and finished one roll short.  The greens were sandy and I think I just couldn’t get used to the speed on them.

    I did have a chance to tie the match and finish even with an 8ft putt on the 18th hole….  My partner pulled it (so I thought) and I played my originally thought line.  It missed low side.  I think putting second in a scramble is one of the hardest things if your partner can’t hit the line. 

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    2 hours ago, Samsonite said:

    Had a pretty spectacular green-session yesterday - spent about 90 minutes practicing set-up, alignment, green-reading, and everything from 60' to 5' putts. Only stopped because I was getting light-headed from the heat, actually. I've never spent this much time working on my putting, which is probably why it's never felt like a strength, but man! This thing just makes me want to practice. I actually feel like I might be a pretty ok putter now that I can confidently say that the ball is going where I intend it to. I still need to work on my green-reading and subsequent alignment of the ball, but that feels like a lifelong journey. 

    One thing I noticed yesterday, after the session (and subsequent range session), was that I'm clenching (for lack of a better word) my legs - my quads in particular, to ensure I'm not swaying at all and only using a pendulum motion. Last night and especially today, my legs feel like I worked out at the gym - which, for those of you who've not seen my doughy body out and about (praying that's most of you), is not a thing that happens all that often these days. 

    Anyone else doing this? Am I WAY too tense over the ball? Is this something I should work on? Again, I've never spent this much time on my putting (shocker that I don't consider myself a great putter, right?), so it could be a thing I always do and have just never noticed it until now. 

    Anyway, that's it for now. Can't say enough how amazed I am everytime I get one out of the toe to see it not lose any pace/line at all. 

    -S

    Same experience I’m having.  I love practicing putting now.  Never felt that way before!

    Posted

    Happened again on the practice green today.  I start putting, make the first two 10 footers in a row.  An seasoned man comes up to me and says, “Is that a Scotty Cameron?”  I say, “No sir.” He says, “What is that?”  I give the whole shebang. 

    I tell him how the thing just makes putts.  I drain two more 10 footers in a row.  He starts laughing and says, “Well maybe in need to cancel my Scotty order.”  We had a good laugh. 

    He goes back to practice on his own.  I keep draining putts.  He watches from a distance and says, “Do you ever miss one from 10 feet and in?” 

    Posted

    14 minutes ago, Samsonite said:

    Were you able to connect with our friend?  Curious if he'd have any particular advice about what you're experiencing - that must be super frustrating to feel like everything's working EXCEPT this one thing (and kind of an important one at that).  

    This might be a dumb question, but it's worked for me in the past, so I'll give it a shot:  have you tried heads-up putting with this thing?  Lining up, picking your point, but then not looking away from the point and just firing at it?  With my gamer, that was the ONLY way for me to get into a "ohhh...it's THIS far away" mentality, as as soon as I looked away from the hole/aim point, I couldn't exactly remember how hard I needed to hit it, and would either leave it hilariously short or painfully long.  For about 3 months, all I did was heads-up, and my pace control is kind of shockingly good these days.  No idea if this would help you, mind you, but it was a really good exercise that I still use on the practice green when warming up before a round.  

    And as @Grand Strandedsaid so eloquently, it ultimately might not be a match - hitting your line (new to me) isn't enough if you can't get it to the hole consistently.  Good luck! Keep letting us know how it goes!

    I'm glad you brought this up.  I was thinking that the DF2.1 is the PERFECT putter for heads up style putting.  With other putters, you miss the sweet spot and the distance control almost becomes a moot point.  This one is much more forgiving on miss-hits and distance control.  It would seem to be much more freeing to do heads up putting with it than a blade or traditional mallet. 

    Posted

    Another ~30min practice session.  I don’t have anything negative to report.  I’ve never enjoyed practicing putting this much in my life.  I used to hate/avoid it because I was so bad at it. 
     

    I ended by making 10 putts in a row (all different breaks and distances) over 8ft.  After laughing at hearing and seeing the ball go in time after time, I rolled one in from 25ft.  Dead center.  
     

    Some people even started watching because they kept hearing the ball go in over and over.  
     

    I don’t know what else to say.  I probably sound like a infomercial, but it is what it is at this point. 
     

    Is there a chance that I made so many because I know this putting green well.  Yes, but I’ve never done that before with any of my other putters on this green.  Is there a chance that it is due to nothing being on the line?  Yes, but again, I’ve never done that before.  Is it because I’m practicing my putting semi-regularly?  Perhaps, but again, it is making me enjoy practicing putting, so that’s overall a positive thing.

    Posted

    More putting green practice this morning (~15mins).  All I can say is this thing makes putts.  I feel like inside of 10ft I’ve got a really solid chance of draining it.  This was not the case before.  Even 3 footers gave me trouble.  
     

    I am also learning more about how I read putts.  I really like left to right breaking putts, but over read break on right to left breaking putts.  I miss high side on those about 90% of the time I miss them. 
     

    I almost holed two putts from 40 and 50 feet as well.  Like finished on the lip close. 
     

    I seriously don’t see anything taking this out of the bag.  As of now, I’d say I’m selling my old putters.  I like the sight line I chose.  I love the matte black color scheme.  The forward press putter grip doesn’t give me any issues.  It’s all around a good fit for me.

    Posted

    I played another 18 hole round with the DF2.1 today.  Same as the other day where we jumped out of the car and straight to the first tee box.  First hole I had about 30ft downhill.  No clue how fast the greens were and I hit it too firm.  Left a 10ft come back for par.  Drained it.  I had lots of 30ft putts all day long.  Just wasn’t hitting the ball very close.  Made one 30ft putt for birdie.  Only had one 3 putt on the day, which, for me, is historically a big issue.  Especially if I’m around 20-30ft for the birdie putt all day long. 
     

    I did miss about 4 putts inside of 8ft that I just over-read the break.  I just couldn’t seem to get the read down today.  But again, I know I hit my line, they just didn’t break.  My playing partners did admit that I’m putting night and day better with this DF2.1 than prior putters. 

    Posted

    I’m wondering more specifically what the issue is for those of you who are having trouble getting used to the putters?  Is it the forward ball position that is recommended?  I got lucky in that I already have a more forward ball position.  I also approached it with a “let’s just see what happens and go with it” mentality.  Curious to hear the feedback.

    Posted

    Alright MGS Members.  I just had a ~30min phone call with Sam Han, CEO of L.A.B. 

    Man what an awesome phone call that was!  He is very passionate about putting, helping golfers improve, and the company.  I have no doubt that they will continue to grow.

    I gave him some honest feedback about our testers' thoughts on the online fitting process.  I mentioned how many of us would have rather done a face to face fitting.

    He said that the rationale behind the online fitting is that golfer are much more consistent with their stroke than they think they are.  If they can get the golfer comfortable, they have a better chance of letting the putter technology do what it is supposed to do and get better.  He said that he's seen too many times with the live fitting process that people will tinker way too much.  Rather than settling in a getting comfortable, they'll start saying, "Should my hands be higher/lower?  What about this or  that? XYZ?"  At the end, they are in their heads way too much and leave with something that is far removed from what they do naturally and consistently.

    I have found something similar in my own game/experience and teaching and coaching experience.  In the full swing, for example, golfers are often very very very consistent with their club path.  On TrackMan, if someone has a -5* club path at impact, they'll repeat that very consistently.  As long as it is within a functional range and not something like -14*, it is often best suited to manage the clubface better to fit that path.  Most golfers don't have hours each day to make massive swing changes to alter their path closer to zero, so depending on the goals of the player, you go a certain route.  Not saying this fits all scenarios, but I understand the logic.

    As we were discussing my experience with the putter, he said over and over, "You are like the poster child for what we want to see happen with our putters!  You have approached this with an open mind and just let the putter do its thing." 

    So I'll say that from my experience, at least, I have not touched my old putters since getting the L.A.B.  It was very refreshing to set the L.A.B. down at address and see it sit flat.  With all of my other putters, they want to be way toe up because of my 65* lie angle.  Now I just set it up and stroke it.

    There is still more testing to be done, obviously, but all I can say is that from my experience, it has been top notch. 

    Posted

    Another successful 9 hole outing with the Mega Mind aka Mad Hatter aka Panacea.

    I didn’t miss a putt inside of 8ft except for a stupid 5 footer that I didn’t even line up.  So dumb. Some good testers over 5ft that went in center cup each time.  I’m really liking it so far.  I have way more confidence in those putts!

    Posted

    1 hour ago, dlow206 said:

    Their online fitting process isn't really a true fitting process. Without them telling me how they do it, back when I was selling LAB putters, i was able to basically match their online fitting specs using the videos that customers send in and using an online compass. They ask you to take your own putter and record the video with something in the background that can be used as a reference straight line. I've used the online compass to use that reference straight line to measure the lie angle of what would make the sole sit flat. I've been pretty much spot on with what LAB comes back with or within one degree. 

    I gathered that was pretty much the extent of it.

    I just took a screenshot of my fitting video at impact and I used the ruler on my iPhone.  Came out to exactly 65*, just like they said.  Took 2 seconds.

    Posted

    On 6/22/2022 at 7:04 PM, Grand Stranded said:

    Yeah, it’s not that big a deal, obviously, and the only reason I brought him up was because I was told he wanted to do my fitting personally.
    I really like the idea behind this putter. I want to make it work well enough to become my gamer, and it has a chance to do that. I just think we could’ve been given a lot more info from the company throughout the ordering and online fitting process, especially since they would only allow us to order online. 
    BTW  Sorry if I’m coming off as a negative Nancy here, it’s not my intention, I’m just trying to be as honest as possible.

     

    100% agree.  It was a very minimal online fitting process for sure.  I think I would’ve much rather fit in person.  Try out the three models, play around with lie angles, etc. 

    No need to apologize and I don’t think you stating the facts of your experience is at all negative.  It is what you experienced.  Nothing more, nothing less.


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