elight Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Now that I've put together my basic garage sim setup, I am thinking about also putting together a basement putting practice setup, which might actually be more useful over the winter than working on my full swing. I am looking at the Birdieball indoor mats. They come in a myriad of sizes, from 2 to 6' wide, and from 10 to 30' long. I am definitely looking at either 3 or 4' wide, and between 10 and 14' long. The prices vary wildly, though, when you add just one or two feet. So I'm curious if others have feedback on what size is really necessary for a useful setup. My sense is that, as a high handicapper, I'd be very happy sinking more 8-10' foots, so that may be enough for now! Shapotomous 1 Quote PXG 0211 driver, 5w, 6i-PW, GW, SW; Titleist H1 4h; Odyssey White Hot mallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 The question is what do you want to accomplish? If you just want to work on technique and start line you don't need a mat or a short mat will work. IMO, the problem with the mats in the 8-10' range is that you can basically work on one putt that you will seldom see on the course. Ideally you want to be able to work on speed control; which is probably the most important skill in putting, so you need as long of a space as possible....30' would be good. Shapotomous and Kenny B 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elight Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 Since a 30' mat is out of the question for most people, do you think there's value to practicing such putting on standard house carpet? Obviously the speed and quality of the roll will be entirely different than on the course, but is this sort of training useful still by teaching you how to adapt to different putt lengths? Quote PXG 0211 driver, 5w, 6i-PW, GW, SW; Titleist H1 4h; Odyssey White Hot mallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, elight said: Since a 30' mat is out of the question for most people, do you think there's value to practicing such putting on standard house carpet? Obviously the speed and quality of the roll will be entirely different than on the course, but is this sort of training useful still by teaching you how to adapt to different putt lengths? as long as it isn't too fast or slow I think there is value. As you build your putting skills, speed quickly becomes the most important aspect to focus on. Setup and startline can be practiced without a mat. Edited November 2, 2023 by cnosil Kenny B 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 On 11/1/2023 at 4:29 PM, elight said: Now that I've put together my basic garage sim setup, I am thinking about also putting together a basement putting practice setup, which might actually be more useful over the winter than working on my full swing. I am looking at the Birdieball indoor mats. They come in a myriad of sizes, from 2 to 6' wide, and from 10 to 30' long. I am definitely looking at either 3 or 4' wide, and between 10 and 14' long. The prices vary wildly, though, when you add just one or two feet. So I'm curious if others have feedback on what size is really necessary for a useful setup. My sense is that, as a high handicapper, I'd be very happy sinking more 8-10' foots, so that may be enough for now! @cnosil is correct. Setup, alignment, start line and stroke consistency can be performed on any mat or smooth surface. A longer mat is needed for getting the feel for lagging distances. Unfortunately, most of us don't have the space for a long mat. I have a 4'x12' putting mat in my hitting bay, and it's nice to spend time there. The speed is very similar to the greens at my course, so that's a plus but I do wish I had a little more distance to work with. You have to remember that just because my mat is 12', I don't have a 12' putt. I have a cup on each end of the mat and there is 15" past each hole for runout before the ball hits a wall, and I need space at the other end to make a stroke. So, in effect the longest putt I can make to a cup is 9'6". On practice days at my course and before every round, I spend most of my putting green time focusing on various length putts from 10-25 feet. I only use two balls and vary the distance on every attempt. I don't like making the same putt over and over to the same hole... unless I'm working on alignment. By varying distances I get a better feel for judging speed. Once, you are confident that you can start the ball on your intended line and repeat your stroke, then being able to control speed becomes critical. cnosil 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gusset Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 I'd love to have room for a 15-20' mat, but my experience suggests there are still benefits to be had with something shorter. I've been using a smallish mat, max putt distance ~7.5', most of this season. It's one of those kidney bean shaped surfaces with three holes, so you can come at things from different angles. I walk past it multiple times/day, and I often stop for a minute or two and hit a few putts. My main goals have been to 1) build a consistent smooth stroke with quiet wrists and a good follow through, 2) get so I can better hit my intended line, and 3) mix in some non-block practice benefits with the sporadic mini-sessions. It definitely has paid off. I'm missing a lot less from 5 feet and in, and making more in the 5-12 foot range and beyond. It clearly can't help me read greens better , but a smoother stroke/follow through, and less pulling/pushing, have paid dividends. I also think a more consistent stroke and follow through help at least a little on the distance control, but I wouldn't argue that one too vigorously. Kenny B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffleHouseTour Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 On 11/1/2023 at 6:29 PM, elight said: I am looking at the Birdieball indoor mats. They come in a myriad of sizes, from 2 to 6' wide, and from 10 to 30' long. I am definitely looking at either 3 or 4' wide, and between 10 and 14' long. The prices vary wildly, though, when you add just one or two feet. So I'm curious if others have feedback on what size is really necessary for a useful setup. My sense is that, as a high handicapper, I'd be very happy sinking more 8-10' foots, so that may be enough for now! Try the BirdieBall PuttUp - forum review here. It is the best of both worlds - more distance in less space. I’m unrolling mine now for its fourth winter season. I noticed it’s no longer on their web site. If it’s of interest drop them an email and ask about it - you never know if there may be one sitting in the warehouse even if they discontinued the product. BB has fantastic customer service. Quote Walking ahead of my BagBoy QuadXL w Alphard eWheels Driver: Callaway Mavrik SubZero 9* Neutral w stock Evenflow Riptide R flex shaft 3W Titelist TS2 15* Draw w Tensei Blue R flex 3H, 4H Cobra One Length F9 Speedback hybrids (1”short) w Fujikura Atmos R flex shaft 5I-GW Cobra Forged TEC Black One Length (1”short, 2* flat) KBS 90 R flex shafts 56, 60 Cobra King MIM One Length Black (1” short) KBS HiRev2.0 125 S flex shafts ER7 or Scotty Futura X - 35” OnCore Elixr (lemon or lime) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elight Posted November 4, 2023 Author Share Posted November 4, 2023 Do they still make the PuttUp? I can't find any references to it anywhere other than MGS, including on the BirdieBall website. Quote PXG 0211 driver, 5w, 6i-PW, GW, SW; Titleist H1 4h; Odyssey White Hot mallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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