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I got my order last week, 5 dz MTBX. i still have a sleeve of the last years order to go through before breaking into the new ones. They feel and perform (distance, spin and flight) the same as Prov's for me. At the $25/dz sale price it is an easy call as to which ball i play. What is your normal gamer that gives more distance?

Good morning everyone from OC, MD where the rain has moved out but it is about 50* and 20mph winds. We play inland a couple miles so we hope the wind isnt as bad over there for our 12 tee time at War Admiral. Have a great day!

You can try to open your back foot to match how open your front foot is. That helps me during cold weather golf when my back is not nearly as loose as summer golf.

I got out to play thurs afternoon instead of heading to a project involving drywall mud. It was a good decision! I got in 17 and there was enough light that I could have played the hole I skipped past a family but I forgot to go back. I was 5 over for the 17 holes played and 3 of that was from a triple bogey (cart path bounce = lost ball in hazard). The 10.5* driver continues to be a fairway finder. The irons & wedges were on line although I was coming up a few yards short of the pin but still on the green. Not many reasonable birdie chances but lag putting was decent so there were many tap in pars. This was a tune up round for a weekend golf trip coming up and I feel good about the state of the game!

Good Morning Everyone... A wet day here in the mid atlantic with a few chores to do before heading off for a couple day golf trip to OC, MD. I am hoping the rain moves out before tomorrows round at War Admiral and Monday I am playing my favorite course, Rum Pointe. Have a great day everyone.

More than a few of the substances are banned because they are masking agents which hide the other more directly serious stuff from being detected.

I was wrong as well. I figured she would lose a lot of shots due to her putting but she did well. Congrats to her!

The anticipation is getting tough to handle! .

Have you watched the NBA recently????!!!!

I also watch rhe lpga for info purposes more than the pga. Swing tempo, path, posture, stance etc. One area i find hard to get meaningful info is around the green shots because so much depends on the lie. You can see the type shot they play but rarely do you get a detailed look or description of the lie.

If they play slow i will get frustrated and it will hurt my game not help. If their scoring advantage is length then i dont get much help from that. If they are about the same length as me and play quickly then i wont be frustrated and can learn something from them.

Back in HS i played a 9 hole match in a snow squall that lasted about 5 holes. We had to clear the snow off the greens on our putt line. It wasnt laying anywhere but the greens so we kept playing. I am a lot pickier about playing in bad weather now but i was stuck in a charity scramble on saturday in the wind & rain. That was the worst i hàve played in for many many years. Questionable scoring didnt disappoint as one team still managed to be -20 and win it by 4!

I knew there was a reason i like rickie!!! Lets get it ON!!!!!

Without the official email notification yet i am nervous they will use a captains pick and replace me with justin thomas!

Then i will be surprised if she isnt in the bottom 5.

And they are running a sale now too!

From the womens tees she is long enough off the tee. But her weakness has always been putting and i think the tour pin placements will give her a lot of trouble

With the loft adjusted to +1 or +1.5 degrees does the face look closed to you? I gamed a 9* until recently switching to a 10.5*. I wanted higher ball flight and tried lofting up the 9* for a while but it closed the face too much for my eye. I had very inconsistent misses with it. With the 10.5 set neutral it has been an automatic fairway finder.

I received an email from Snell tonight advertising a sale on balls. With the ball factory fire news threatening supply and maybe pushing prices up, I thought I would stock up since the price was good. The 5 dozen price for the Prime X was $125 including tax and shipping. That is a pretty good ball for $25 / dz!!

Yes, there is a sensor for the putter that you hold to the h4 at your ball so it knows its position. That is the same for all clubs. And if i remember to hit the button when i put the pin back in it will register the pin location and know the distances to the putts.

I dont ever wear a watch so i tried the Shotscope H4 and it performs very well. The shot tracking is all i want, the GPS is accurate, I have not had any issues with courses loading but I don't play too many different ones. I think the interface and button controls are very intuitive and I am pretty picky about that. You need to hold the club sensor to the unit to get it to note the club for each shot which took more than a few rounds for me to remember each time. But it is very easy to edit shots in after the round if I still forget sometimes. The only thing I still routinely forget is to use it on the green to register the pin position & # of putts before walking off to the next tee. And that only requires clicking 1 button because the screen is automatically displayed for you. I have tried to make it a habit of pulling the pin for putts and being the one to replace it making that my memory trigger to hit the button.

Awesome experiment and from the dispersion data it looks pretty successful so far! I have a never used Adams 3w head in the shop that was included with some club making equipment I picked up and I may try the same thing.

Introduction Time!! Hello….My name is Bob…. I am a wedge-aholic…putter-aholic…..& drivershaft-aholic. Thank you to Edison and MGS for selecting me as a reviewer and enabling my wedge addiction to flourish!!! I have been a member of MGS since 2020. I forget what brought me to the forum, I think it was research into drivers as that was about the time I was looking to retire the G10. Besides the equipment reviews I found the membership to be friendly and to have the same curiosity about golf gear that I do. The worlds least interesting man....but that's OK since the wedges will be the exciting part of the review!! I grew up in south east PA and currently live in the north east corner of MD where it can be convenient to get to courses in MD, DE & PA. I have been playing golf since the early 1970’s and am currently in my early 60’s. I had the best job ever for a kid that was a golf nut….working at a country club that was a short bike ride from home for 6 years through high school and part of college. I hit as many range balls as I wanted (a few hundred thousand), practiced putting whenever (dozens of hours), play any evening of the week (whenever I didn’t have a baseball game), get free lessons from the assistant pros (they got paid by taking some $ from me via golf bets and cards), try out new clubs, and learn how to do club repair (although refinishing and rewhipping wood heads had a short shelf life!). These days I usually get out to play a couple times per week usually 9 at a time. Elder care responsibilities at home make it difficult to be away for more than a couple hours so 18 hole rounds must be carefully coordinated. Advancing age and aches & pains make it a challenge to stay in the neighborhood of a 4 handicap. My driver swing speed has dropped to the high 90’s and I usually swing at about a 90% effort to limit the possibility of a back injury. I’ve had a putting green in the backyard for 14 years and the yard configuration allows for wedge shots up to 65 yards. So three or four times per week I am hitting 50 or so wedge shots and/or putting for a while. These sessions have helped dial in wedge yardage control & shot dispersion along with my putting stroke which has helped maintain my scoring as I have lost some distance. The backyard sanctuary.... I am always looking at wedges when in a pro shop or 2nd Swing or Golf Galaxy to see if something catches my eye. I have brought home countless wedges over the years and can’t wait to see how well the Edisons measure up to my all time favorites, the 588’s. I used Cleveland 588’s for over 20 years and they were extremely dependable. Due to that familiarity, I look for something that resembles their clubhead shape. Excessive groove wear finally had me swap them out last year for a Sub70 50*, SM9 54* & Cleveland RTX 58* (bent to 57*). I prefer a stiffer shaft in my wedges for a tighter shot pattern. I am vertically challenged and my hands tend to be lower in the swing path so a 2* flat lie performs best for me. These gamer wedges are not up to the confidence level I had with the 588’s. I have not figured out how to get a lower ball flight with them. I asked for the Edisons in similar loft, lie, shaft specs so I could make as direct a comparison as possible. These lofts give me the yardages I need up to the 110 yard mark where the set PW takes over. Two things in the club info on the website caught my eye when reading up on them before signing up for the review - the ‘penetrating ball flight’ and the sole design. I may be reading into it too much but penetrating ball flight to me means lower trajectory. I prefer a 75% swing for better control & want a lower ball flight with that less aggressive swing. The sole design is intriguing for me to try because I did some custom grinding to my 588 gamers over the years to dial in consistent turf interaction with my swing. This dual bounce angle design has me curious! I also expect from the product info on forgiveness they will be more consistent in distance and maybe target line performance on mishits than what I am playing. I will never turn down forgiveness if ‘feel’ hasn’t left the building. Looks will play a large part in the first impression part of the review. I can move past how a club looks if I hit it well but it takes a while to gain confidence and make that transition. I plan to get familiar with the clubs initially by hitting them in my usual backyard wedge sessions. My swing is dialed in to those distances and I can see what adjustments (if any) I need to make. I am also used to hitting the target line about 8/10 times so I can get an idea how they are with dispersion and what my aimpoint needs to be. It is a convenient and efficient way to get in a few hundred swings before taking them to the course for further review. The review will involve a good bit of course testing not only in regular play but with dropping balls at in between distances in varied lies. Our course is not busy this time of year so that will be easy to do. The regular play will test my confidence level in using the clubs with the pressure of real scoring while dropping balls will allow testing in some challenging spots regular play may not find. I also plan to include a couple other golfers in the on course testing as I am playing with them. SWMBO is a 10 ‘cap and a couple other golfing friends are single digit ‘cappers that know their swing and ball flights pretty well and can contribute some data and feel info to using the wedges. The more the merrier as they say! I will also be making use of a simulator to get spin data along with all the other provided parameters for comparison. But I am not a slave to the simulator numbers. I can see from the performance on course if the ball flight is what I want and if the bite when it hits the green is what I need. In my opinion real world confidence in a club to make the single shot when needed is a more complete gauge than repetitive simulator shots that allow for adjustments to dial in a shot to hit a number. Besides me just loving to hit a good wedge, I’d like to have consistency in my wedge set up rather than the 3 makes / models so this review was very appealing to me. If I can get confidence in the look, flight, distance and target line performance they will get a spot in the bag. And if that happens, being a 3 wedge player (in addition to the set PW), I would also buy the third wedge to fill out the arsenal with the same make / model. The 45 yard shot practice spot with the swing I have evolved into.... (58*) swingvid.mp4 First Impressions: 19/20 I had done a good bit of website reading about the Edisons prior to signing up for the test and studied it even more after being selected. So my initial focus at the unboxing was how the marketing claims of a more forgiving wedge with a higher center of gravity would impact the looks of the clubhead. More forgiving usually means a larger head combined with perimeter weighting in a cavity back design to help with off center hits. The higher center of gravity means taking weight away from the sole so an unappealing thick top line may be the result. The higher COG is to allow for a lower trajectory on the shots than other wedges. Lower shot height should result in better distance control. I wondered if the design features discussed in the marketing material would result in a huge clubhead that looks like it could double as a garden implement??? The pictures on the website didn’t look like it, but you really can’t tell until you get them in your hands. I took the clubs out of the box and removed the neoprene covers. Thankfully (for my preferences) to my eye the clubheads had neither of these over the top characteristics and was far from a garden implement! The top line was a little thicker than the SM9, but not too wide. The top line is about the same as my JPX 900 Forged irons. From the top in the pic below is the Edison 53*, JPX 900 Forged PW, SM9 54* & at the bottom is the Edison 57*. Three of the four look similar with the exception being the thinner top line of the SM9. And the back of the wedges is not a cavity or visible heel and toe weighting. It is a clean, solid look without anything gimmicky. As a bonus, included was an Edison hat. One of my two favorite things to get as a gift, the second being a coffee mug! Although I think the hat is sized for a head like Mr Met since to get it to fit properly I had 1/2 the velcro strip past the edge of its mate. The other feature in the design that is prominent in the marketing material is the dual grind sole. It is there to allow the player to have a low bounce option that is more like a regular iron along with a higher bounce using the rear bevel if the clubface is opened up a bit. The bevel between the two grinds is very subtle, arrows in the picture point it out. For a regular shot the leading edge of the sole sits very tight to the surface all across the length of the face. Overall the Edisons made a terrific first impression. The clubhead is not too chunky and the top line is not too thick. The satin finish looks great and is a fantastic match to my Mizuno JPX 900 Forged irons! Aesthetics & Initial Shots (10 out of 10) Right away the Edisons look very good to me set up behind the ball. The face is compact, not long from toe to heel and not overly tall. The forgiveness feature they advertise does not come from presenting a huge clunky looking clubhead that I personally don’t like to see behind the ball. This consistency of the look moving from the irons to the wedges is nice to have in the bag. The three other players (handicaps from 1 – 11) that tried the Edisons also mentioned they look good behind the ball, a nice compact head. It looks smaller than the SM9 I have so I got out the calipers to do some unofficial measuring to see if there is any real difference between them. My measurements are unscientific, I just tried to get at the highest and lowest points keeping the calipers as straight as I could so I wasn’t getting a diagonal measurement. The face toe height of the Edison is about 1mm shorter than the SM9 and the face height at the heel is about 2mm taller on the Edison than the SM9. The Edison top line does not dive toward the heel but the top line curve is gradual. The visual of the smaller head is probably due to the toe not appearing as tall since there is less difference in height from heel to toe. Before taking it to the course I got familiar with the feel, shot shape and distance in the yard. I have a 12 x 24 green that I can hit up to 65 yard shots into from a mat. That translates to about an 80% 57* and maybe a 60% 53* shot. I don’t take full swings with wedges when playing as I have better control with line and distance staying at about 80%. After about 50 shots with each club from 65 yards the initial feel is lighter than my current gamers. The sweet spot was easy to find! A quarter size impact spot is pretty good for me. During a 2nd backyard session before hitting the course I hit about 50 shots from 65 yards with the 57* and had pretty consistent face impact.....at two spots! One centered when I kept my posture correct and one when I stood up slightly that is just a touch higher & toward the toe. The interesting thing was the resulting shot distance was not impacted at all – the forgiveness is REAL. The feel coming off the sweet spot is solid and soft, the sound is a satisfying thud rather than an annoying click. I can feel the difference in the toey miss as it feels like the ball is heavier coming off the face. I am happy with the feedback and the different feel between the toey hits and sweet spot hits. The Numbers (8 out of 10) I booked some indoor trackman time to get data for the Edisons as well as the SM9 and RTX-3 gamers. After a few warm up shots I hit each club for about 10 – 12 shots and I had a pretty good cluster of shots for each club. I did eliminate about 1 outlier shot with each club that I think got misread by the launch monitor, probably because I didn’t have the ball in the proper starting spot. Honestly I would have been pretty happy with most all the shots from any of the clubs. I listed the average and consistency data lines from the trackman data table. The 57* Edison tracks very close to the 54* SM9 in carry, spin & height. I wasn’t seeing any real difference in height data and since that is one of their marketing points I took off 2 points there. Edison 53* Club Speed Ball Speed Carry Total Height Attack Ang. Side Spin Rate Dyn. Loft Average 63.3 67.5 74.9 78.8 46 -2.6 9.4R 8188 41.4 Consistency 1.1 2.1 3.4 3.2 3 1.1 1.6 620 0.9 SM9 54* Average 62.6 63.9 68.7 71.7 43 -3.0 8.4R 8764 44.1 Consistency 0.7 1.4 2.4 2.7 3 1.4 1.7 880 0.9 Edison 57* Club Speed Ball Speed Carry Total Height Attack Ang. Side Spin Rate Dyn. Loft Average 62.4 64.6 69.9 72.8 44 -2.8 0.7R 8750 43.8 Consistency 1.0 1.6 2.5 2.4 2 0.7 1.2 526 0.6 Cleveland RTX-3 58* Average 63.1 59.9 62.0 63.9 40 -2.5 6.4R 9324 47.3 Consistency 1.2 1.5 2.4 2.4 2 1.0 0.5 576 0.6 The swing weight of the Edisons is D5 vs. D4 for the gamers. However the Edisons feel lighter to me when swinging them. The reason for the lighter feel may be the overall weight of the Edisons is 16 oz vs. 16.5 oz for the gamers. On-Course (20 out of 20) We all know these are the scoring clubs and for me it comes down to controlling distance and direction on various yardage shots that are less than full swing to get them in birdie range. That means you have to develop confidence for the swing length necessary and feel for the face control to keep the shot on the target. My goal for all shots 100 yards and in is to end up within 15’ of the pin. Not that it happens all the time but I am usually not happy with just hitting the green with a wedge in my hand. Edison1.mp4 Testing involved a combination of straight playing them as the shots came up during a round and also dropping balls at various distances and lies. This was to test how adaptable I am at distance control and see the interaction from different turf conditions. My shots with the Edisons were noticeably consistent when it came to the target line. I had a slight issue early on with being slightly long on shots but I believe that was related to the loft difference between the Edisons at 53 & 57 and the gamers at 54 & 58. Once I adjusted the shots were mostly within 5 yards in front or behind the pin when hitting from my preferred distance of 80 (53*) and 65 (57*) yards. If I am off those yardages I tend to be a little long but mostly still on line. Edison2.mp4 My miss is slightly toward the toe and even on shots where I had that miss, the forgiveness factor kicked in and distance was not affected. With the gamers a toe side miss usually ballooned and ended up short and right of the target line. The Edisons were a big improvement in this area. The ball flight for me was mostly straight for the ¾ swing I almost always use. When I tested them out on full swings to gauge maximum distance I consistently saw a slight fade. I don’t try to fade or draw wedges, I get better, more consistent results keeping these shorter shots straight. The height of the sweet spot shots is about the same as my gamers, maybe a little lower but nothing drastic. For the green side chip shots I use the 53 as often as I can and manipulate the loft to get as much run out as the shot calls for. I will use the 57 if I am short sided or need to carry a bunker to a close pin location. I had no issues with the sole getting caught in heavy rough or tight lies and gradually got better during the test period at hitting my landing spots and judging rollout. I was able to use the dual bounce feature to open the face a bit when needed and didn’t have any issued drop kicking the club into the back of the ball. The Good, the bad, the in between (18 out of 20) Edison got the clubs out the door to us very quickly and their variety of shaft & grip options can provide a match to a wide range of player needs. They even shipped mine with no grips so I could layer the tape and put on my own grips. A very accommodating customer service experience with quick responses! The website has very informative articles explaining the design differences with respect to the dual sole and the weight distribution that helps keep the ball flight lower. The whole experience was extremely positive. While the satin finish looks great, it would be nice to have a choice in finish on the clubs. I love a raw finish on wedges, I know a few others really like a black out club and of course many like the shiny, finish too. Only a 2 point deduction for this. Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20) The Edison 53 & 57 wedges definitely have PLAY IT status for me. They have kicked out the SM9 and RTX-3. It was very easy to get used to the look, feel and consistent distance these clubs provided. I was a Cleveland RTG 588 player for over 20 years and these are in every way equal to those for me. The distance performance is fantastic with the slight miss not being penalized by a loss of yardage. Shot after shot would end up pin high and within 15’ of the cup. This shot left a ball mark 2" from the cup and stopped about 8' away. I had others play the wedges for a round to get a variety of impression / performance / feel feedback. The highest handicap of the four that tried them was an 11. They all liked the look and for three of them the performance which at least matched the gamers. The ball flight for one of them was way lower than her current Zip Core wedges. Two indicated they would be looking into the Edisons when it came time to replace their current gamers. One thought the price was too high for their spending habits. Only one mentioned the feel was not to his liking because it was a heavier club than his graphite shafted gamers. But there are a variety of shafts available so he would be able to get something more closely matched to his preference if he wanted. Conclusion From the initial look right out of the box to the set up behind the ball to the forgiveness and to the control over distance and direction the Edison wedges are top shelf and should be on your short list of candidates if you are in the market. If you think the forgiveness factor would have them in a category of clubs only for higher handicaps, that would be incorrect. I had a 1 handicap try them out for a round and he was able to flight the ball as low as he wanted and indicated they had the feedback he needed for working the ball as necessary. I am a 4, I use ¾ swing shots for my wedge play and don’t try to work the flight like he does and I had no issue developing the feel for distance control. I benefitted from the forgiveness on my occasional slight toe side miss. There was no loss in distance and the direction remained true. Around the green I use the 53* and open & close the face as needed for the type shot I want. The dual sole works well for this strategy and I quickly gained confidence in executing the shots and hitting the landing target. I am extremely happy with how quickly I connected with the feel for the clubs and I am proud to say they have displaced the SM9 and RTX-3 from my bag. Final Score (95 out of 100)

I didn't explain what I was looking for very well. Mostly because I was posting on my phone rather than my laptop and I tend to use less words. To better explain what I meant.... It seems to me using the stats obtained from play across all courses is not a good set of numbers to look at for strategy at certain course set ups. If I was playing a course set up like Marco Simone, I would look at stats from the US Open for the last 5 years. Obviously from the scoring averages the US Open courses are set up much tougher than regular tour stops (except for Erin Hills). If previous Euro hosted Ryder Cup courses were set up similarly then I would include that data as well. If the data supports hitting driver every chance you get whether you are in shin deep rough or not then have at it. If it supports hitting 3w or 5w to increase fairways hit %'s then go that route. I haven't heard of the teams using this type of analysis. Maybe I missed it.