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Following up on my inquiries with Takomo's customer service (they were quick in terms of answer time as well):
They asked the following, with my response to each below:
How tall are you and what is your wrist to floor measurement with shoes on?
I am 6'6" with wrist to floor measurements of 40"
What's your 7 iron carry distance?
7 iron carry distance is about 160 yards
Is your swing tempo slow, medium, or fast?
I would say my swing tempo is medium
Are you looking for a low, medium, or high trajectory?
I am looking for a medium to high trajectory.
They were able to respond with the following suggestions, similar to that of what the Sub70 online fitting tool gave as well:
We would recommend +1.5" shafts with +3° lie angle.
For the shaft model we would recommend the KBS Tour Lite shafts in stiff flex. We usually recommend the KBS Tour Lite shafts for the 101s since it perfectly complement the preferences of the 101s with high launch and spin.
The raw weight of the KBS Tour Lite stiff shafts is 105g.
 
I thought it was great they went into detail about the recommendations and the explanations. I was assuming the +1.5" shaft extensions as well as the KBS Tour Lites S, but the +3 degree loft was a surprise.
Thoughts??
 

Looks like we have a fair amount of people who have experience with the 101's, and I could use some help with them.
I am looking into getting the 101's but wanted to know how you decided shaft length, type, lie angles, etc... essentially all the info a fitting would give you. Takomo obviously cant be fit pre-purchase as a DTC brand, which is a bit of a bummer. The other obstacle is that club fittings, from what I hear, are more suited to those with a specific brand/club type in mind (Taylormade Stealth irons, for example) - this is relevant because I hear that manufacturers make the same club (ie a 7 iron) with different lie angles from brand to brand which could in turn impact the transferability of fitting results from one brand to another.... Anyone have any advice on how to get fit/decide on what specs to select when ordering from Takomo?
Thanks!!

This caddytech on Amazon looks almost identical to the one you suggested at Costco 

 

Are you locked into Walmart brands? At that price point, I would recommend the Caddytek pushcart from Costco ($150 at time of posting). I feel like the 3 wheel is easier to push and has more maneuverability than its 4-wheeled counterpart.
It’s been my workhorse and I’ve recommended it to others who’ve similarly enjoyed it. 
https://www.costco.com/caddytek-3-wheel-golf-cart-with-swivel-front-wheel.product.100430232.html
If it’s Walmart-only, the Costway 3-wheeled cart without the seat looks similar to the Caddytek and seems like it could be a good buy.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Costway-Foldable-3-Wheel-Steel-Golf-Pull-Push-Cart-Trolley-Club-w-Umbrella-Holder/752252450?athbdg=L1200&adsRedirect=true

Embrace debate here:
Should it be standard practice for beverage carts to carry the ingredients for a transfusion? (Vodka/Tequila, Grape Juice, Ginger Ale)
I have found some courses only have club soda or some others don't carry juice at all. I personally think that transfusions have taken the world by storm, at least my world! My thoughts are that it should be standard practice.
Bonus points for the funniest response received when asking for one, I'll go first: "We have cranberry juice and sprite, does that work?"

I tend to be generous if it is just my buddies and I on the course not playing for $$$ - something to the effect of 4-5 ft or in. In my leagues, its always putter length and people are pretty good about measuring and not assuming their putts are fine to take.
That being said, lots of research shows that 8ft is about a 50/50 split for odds to make the putt for a tour pro. I originally read that in Jon Sherman's "The Four Foundations of Golf: How to Build a Game That Lasts a Lifetime."
If you're talking gimmes as in "there's no way this putt is missed," even a scratch golfer is ~80% from 4 ft. At each level of golfer, I'd imagine each extra foot going in might give you around ~10% increased odds? Just a guess. Take that how you will. 
Another good source: https://www.tomfieldinggolf.net/putting-probabilities.html
 

Embrace debate here:
Should it be standard practice for beverage carts to carry the ingredients for a transfusion? (Vodka/Tequila, Grape Juice, Ginger Ale)
I have found some courses only have club soda or some others don't carry juice at all. I personally think that transfusions have taken the world by storm, at least my world! My thoughts are that it should be standard practice.
Bonus points for the funniest response received when asking for one, I'll go first: "We have cranberry juice and sprite, does that work?"

I would second this opinion - their customer service is really great for that type of thing.  They helped me a lot before I ordered my 101's 

Most everyone has stated a lot of the same info - limited shaft and grip choices, no real R&D budget that we know of, and no demo program or fitting options. But what they do offer is a high quality product at a fraction of what the major OEM's ask. For example, a 2023 P790 with the stock Dynamic Gold steel shafts at Golf Galaxy 4-PW are $1400. The Takomo 101's with the stock KBS Tour shaft 4-PW is $489. It's almost a $1000 savings to buy Takomo, and probably more than that after taxes. Will the P790's be longer? Not for everyone, and not a big enough difference to justify $1000 more. Will the P790's be more forgiving? Not for everyone, and not a big enough difference to justify $1000 more.
I play the 101's and have the last 2 seasons. I bought them heads only so I could put my own preferred shaft in them. I wasn't fit for them directly (I was for the shaft from another manufacturer), but I had enough faith that the reviews I saw from people and channels I trust were enough for me to take a leap of faith to build a set and give them a go. Even with custom shafts, ferrules, and grips, I still saved over $500 compared to 2021 gear when all was said and done and they're built to my preferences and specs. Heads only isn't for everyone like I did, and there are several high quality shaft options (KBS Tour, KBS Tour Lite, KBS Max, KBS C-Taper, KBS C-Taper Lite, Atmos Red, Obsidian) to choose from.
Not everyone is ok with a DTC brand. Some are OEM only people no matter what and are willing to pay whatever that costs. But that's not everyone and that's why DTC companies like Sub70, Takomo, Haywood, New Level, and others both exist and are thriving. They offer high quality clubs and really good prices with far better customer support than the OEMs. It's just a matter of which side do you fall on.

Definitely produce a good product. Maybe not all the tech of some of the other big names, but in terms of a very good performing solid product. These and other brands are definitely right there and easy recommendations for those not wanting to spend a small fortune.

Yes, brands like Takomo, Sub70, New Level, and MacGregor to name a few all provide top quality golf clubs.   They may be bit limited on the stock shafts but you shouldn’t question the quality or performance 
 
there was a forum review of the Takomo irons a few months ago; you can read through that thread to get their in hand thoughts   
 

Didn't know this game was still played! I used to be really, really into it. Not much of a mobile gamer, but this one is definitely an exception.
 
Also - I highly recommend Coffee Golf for those of you who like to do a morning/daily challenge type of game. I usually pair it with the mini-crossword and wordle.

My Soon-To-Be-Wife does not really play, but she is as supportive as they get with my obsession. 
I bought her a pretty basic set of Top Flite clubs to allow her to accompany me on the course/at the range, but that has only happened twice at the range so far. She is incredibly supportive when it comes to my frequency of play, which was at about 3x per week during the late spring/summer. She even encourages me to (reasonably) spend our $$$ on new equipment and rounds of golf. She thinks it's a good investment, to which I have no objections!
She is very interested in the sport for someone who has never really played any sports. Or, at the very least, she tolerates me explaining everything that goes through my head that is golf-related. She will happily watch majors on TV and listen to me explain why "that was a great shot", etc. This year she actually came with me to play a few Saturday morning rounds as my "caddy" and chauffeur, as she enjoyed driving the cart but just watching me play. Looking forward to getting on the course with her more next year when we are in a more golf-accessible location!

My Soon-To-Be-Wife does not really play, but she is as supportive as they get with my obsession. 
I bought her a pretty basic set of Top Flite clubs to allow her to accompany me on the course/at the range, but that has only happened twice at the range so far. She is incredibly supportive when it comes to my frequency of play, which was at about 3x per week during the late spring/summer. She even encourages me to (reasonably) spend our $$$ on new equipment and rounds of golf. She thinks it's a good investment, to which I have no objections!
She is very interested in the sport for someone who has never really played any sports. Or, at the very least, she tolerates me explaining everything that goes through my head that is golf-related. She will happily watch majors on TV and listen to me explain why "that was a great shot", etc. This year she actually came with me to play a few Saturday morning rounds as my "caddy" and chauffeur, as she enjoyed driving the cart but just watching me play. Looking forward to getting on the course with her more next year when we are in a more golf-accessible location!

My Soon-To-Be-Wife does not really play, but she is as supportive as they get with my obsession. 
I bought her a pretty basic set of Top Flite clubs to allow her to accompany me on the course/at the range, but that has only happened twice at the range so far. She is incredibly supportive when it comes to my frequency of play, which was at about 3x per week during the late spring/summer. She even encourages me to (reasonably) spend our $$$ on new equipment and rounds of golf. She thinks it's a good investment, to which I have no objections!
She is very interested in the sport for someone who has never really played any sports. Or, at the very least, she tolerates me explaining everything that goes through my head that is golf-related. She will happily watch majors on TV and listen to me explain why "that was a great shot", etc. This year she actually came with me to play a few Saturday morning rounds as my "caddy" and chauffeur, as she enjoyed driving the cart but just watching me play. Looking forward to getting on the course with her more next year when we are in a more golf-accessible location!

My wife has golfed and occasionally she will accompany the kids and I to the driving range, but there is only room in any family for one person to be completely ate up with the obsession and addiction that is golf. So she mostly avoids it, because if we were both obsessed and addicted, the entire family dynamic would be out of balance 😁
In all seriousness, she expressed an interest in playing more frequently, so now that the kids are older, she and I will mix in some Sunday afternoon 9 hole walking rounds at the local muni, this coming season

My wife comes out with me a handful of times per year which is really fun. She doesn’t keep a score and it’s just a nice way to spend some time together kid free. She will never take it as seriously as me which I am OK with. She’s also pretty decent for never practicing lol

My wife has expressed interest in golf and we bought her some new to her clubs and she has hit them a few times.  It is challenging to both go with 2 younger kids.  I think she enjoys going to ride in the cart with me more than actually wanting to learn to play.
 

MY WIFE, does NOT play golf. However, she has joined me once to watch me fumble over myself, and enjoy the greatest OOF shot moments too. But she is not interested in golf other than allowing me to enjoy it when possible.  She tolerates the youtube golf for entertainment purposes, and leaves the room when an actual tournament is available for me to watch. 

Curious for all those out there if your partner, better half, significant other or however else you would like to describe them golfs? Is it something you like to do together? Are they a 9 hole player? Or mini golfer? Only go to the range? 
Or as mine, has an interest in maybe playing but just doesn't?
Alternatively do they not golf, have no interest in golfing and wonder why you spend so much time obsessing over the game? 
If the last one is the case, do you wish they would golf? Do you think it is something they would enjoy if they gave it a try or just not their cup of tea?

Yes, my wife plays golf .... but not with the same level of passion for the game (and nowhere near as frequently) as I do.
When we went to England and Scotland last summer, I played four Open Championship courses from the 6,200 - 6,500 yard tees.  She did not play at all, and went sightseeing while I was playing golf. We would have gone to the 150th Open Championship together on Saturday and Sunday, but I got COVID on Friday evening. We did, however, walk about ten miles in Edinburgh on Saturday and Sunday and then we took a train to London (no golf).
When we go to Myrtle Beach together, I play every day (often 36 holes); my wife will play 18 holes a day for two days and then take a day off from playing golf on those trips, playing maybe 4 rounds of golf over the course of a week, while I play at least 8 or 9 rounds. We also play golf together around where I live - maybe 6 to 10 times a year, sometimes only 9 holes and other times a full 18. She also occasionally plays golf with a few of her lady friends, when she can find the time (she does volunteer work and works part-time for the state Department of Health, Div. of Aging, so she doesn't have as much time available to play golf as I do).

Back in the late 1990's we joined a country club so I could play golf and we could meet new people that weren't associated where we both worked.   Before that, my wife would play once or twice a year when work required it.   A condition of us joining is that I could only give golf advice if asked (which I agreed to).  She took lessons and we played together once or twice a month at the nine-hole Friday night scotch social tournaments.   I would typically play on Saturdays, but she never had the desire to invest four hours playing golf on a regular basis.   If we visited friends who played golf, she would play 18 for the social aspect of the game.  On weekend we were running errands and she wanted to go to a local driving range and golf retail store.  I looked at her a little shocked as we had a driving range at the club.  Once inside, she went searching for a new driver!  In the used bins she found a senior men's Great Big Bertha driver (at that point it had only been out a few years).  She took it out on the range and ended up buying it.  When we returned to the car, I looked at her and said "now you know how it feels!"  She never questioned a purchase one of my golf club purchases again.
When we quit the country club (turns out that we didn't necessarily like the new people we met), she drifted away from golf.  Fast forward too many years and now we each find ways of better using the time that I play golf.  I play early mornings.  She goes to the beach with her friends and yard sales.  In the end, we both get to do what we each like and then join back up together for lunch.   That's the true definition of a win-win!

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Thanks! Definitely helpful. I have definitely explored their website quite a bit, haha. I actually reached out to ask about what they'd recommend in terms of getting fit - they answered with some pretty basic questions regarding physical characteristics, like height and wrist to floor measurement. They also asked about 7i carry distance and swing tempo. I also thought it was nice they asked a preferred ball flight too - low/mid/high. I'll be responding. I'll keep you all updated!
 
cc: @Shrek74 I appreciate your response as well! I have to do some deep diving into the shafts and such. Might honestly take a list with me to a PGA superstore and ask to hit a few of the same club with the different shafts to see if I can differentiate - unless there is any better way to do it!

This makes so much more sense, thank you for the explanation. I think the fitting/equipment terminology is something I need to learn more about, haha. 
In terms of the Sub70 golf comparison - it is precisely spot on. I have a feeling that if/when I get fit, this will be the outcome as well, if not very similar.