GolfSpy SAM Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Sweet Jeebus. You guys want a laugh at an AMAZINGLY bad video? I genuinely can't say whether the tech is good or bad (I mean, it sounds ridiculous on nearly every level - negative 8° putter face? But... Why?), but the video is so hilariously bad I needed to show someone who would understand why it's so bad. Also, I wonder if this putter is USGA-Approved? It's hard to tell from the video. Do yourself a favor and watch a thoroughly (if mistakenly) entertaining video Ps - someone PLEASE buy this and do a full write-up. Please. GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Driver - PXG 0811 XF - Gen 5, 9 degrees (+1 setting), Oban Devotion TR 65 04 3/5 Wood - Cobra LTDx Max (Blue Colorway) Utility - Caley X01 Driving Iron (3 = 18*) Irons (5-PW) - Caley 01T Wedges (48, 52, 56, 60) - Indi Wedges FLX 48 / ATK 52, 56, 60 Putter - L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 - 65* Ball - Chrome Tour Triple-Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted December 7, 2022 SPY VIP Share Posted December 7, 2022 Lots going on there Oddly compelled to get one now. GolfSpy_APH and GolfSpy SAM 2 Quote Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Isn't this very similar to what Evnroll did with the really offset putter? Or at least the same concept in terms of trying to achieve getting your hands through the ball? Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 7 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said: Isn't this very similar to what Evnroll did with the really offset putter? Or at least the same concept in terms of trying to achieve getting your hands through the ball? This putter is about loft; the evnroll was about offset. The claim of this putter is that it rolls the ball better. GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, cnosil said: This putter is about loft; the evnroll was about offset. The claim of this putter is that it rolls the ball better. Agree, I guess what I am trying to say is that wouldn't the effect be similar with both or trying to achieve a similar result, just with two slight different methods? Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Well... that was 3 mins of my life I'll never get back. -8* of loft still can't read the greens for you... GolfSpy SAM and GolfSpy_APH 2 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, GolfSpy_APH said: Agree, I guess what I am trying to say is that wouldn't the effect be similar with both or trying to achieve a similar result, just with two slight different methods? From what I recall the evnroll trainer was more about path. When Guerin was at HQ and I happened to be there to talk to him, the discussion was more about how it also altered stroke length. the Piza discussion is more roll centric. GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy SAM Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 3 hours ago, russtopherb said: Well... that was 3 mins of my life I'll never get back. -8* of loft still can't read the greens for you... No, but it can push the ball into the green and make its own divot on contact, lol. Doesn't 8 degrees feel...like a LOT of downward angle? GolfSpy_APH 1 Quote Driver - PXG 0811 XF - Gen 5, 9 degrees (+1 setting), Oban Devotion TR 65 04 3/5 Wood - Cobra LTDx Max (Blue Colorway) Utility - Caley X01 Driving Iron (3 = 18*) Irons (5-PW) - Caley 01T Wedges (48, 52, 56, 60) - Indi Wedges FLX 48 / ATK 52, 56, 60 Putter - L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 - 65* Ball - Chrome Tour Triple-Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Samsonite said: No, but it can push the ball into the green and make its own divot on contact, lol. Doesn't 8 degrees feel...like a LOT of downward angle? Considering most putters are at 2-4 degrees yes, that is a lot! GolfSpy SAM 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berg Ryman Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 I mean, it's fully funded so at least they'll get out into the wild. My putter has differing lofts at different points on the face due to SIK's DLT tech, but this is way way too extreme I think. GolfSpy SAM, GolfSpy_APH and russtopherb 3 Quote In a Hoofer Lite bag TSR2, 10 degrees, A1 setting, Fujikara Speeder NX Blue 50-S Stealth, 15 degrees, VA Composites Nemesys 70-S E722, 19 degrees, Oban Devotion 80-S JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-P, Nippon 950GH Stiff Flex CBX Zipcore 50* (bent to *49) and RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 54* (bent to *55), DG 115 Spinner, Tour Issue Staff Model TG 60*, Dynamic Gold 120 S300 SIK Golf Flo-C Tour B-XS (2022 Model) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy SAM Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, Berg Ryman said: I mean, it's fully funded so at least they'll get out into the wild. My putter has differing lofts at different points on the face due to SIK's DLT tech, but this is way way too extreme I think. Yeah, but the DLT makes sense to me there, because it's 1-4 degrees. How far forward in your stance would you need to play the ball with -8 degrees in order to get the ball to not bounce directly into the ground? This just seems bonkers - very interested to see this thing demo'd by people who care more about putting than whether or not it's certified by the USGA (which, in case you didn't watch the video, it TOTALLY IS...lol) Quote Driver - PXG 0811 XF - Gen 5, 9 degrees (+1 setting), Oban Devotion TR 65 04 3/5 Wood - Cobra LTDx Max (Blue Colorway) Utility - Caley X01 Driving Iron (3 = 18*) Irons (5-PW) - Caley 01T Wedges (48, 52, 56, 60) - Indi Wedges FLX 48 / ATK 52, 56, 60 Putter - L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 - 65* Ball - Chrome Tour Triple-Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 That said: as a driver training aid that forces you to hit up—way up—on the ball, I could go for one of these. EDIT: It's angle is sharper than the building it's named after: GolfSpy_APH and GolfSpy SAM 2 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag Ratt Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Keep your old putter…blame it on your caddie!!!! GolfSpy SAM 1 Quote New PXG Xcore ..irons and 0311 XF driver… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreddyTheBearCat Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 “The only USGA certified putter: Pisa” lol I guess you have to get one now. Quote Driver - Speedline F11 8.5° Wood - SLDR 16.5° Hybrid - Apex 23° Irons - 762 DCI 5 -PW Wedges - Tom Watson RC14 52°, 56°, 60° Putter - Valerie Balls - The Noodz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag Ratt Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 All else fails blame the caddy ! Quote New PXG Xcore ..irons and 0311 XF driver… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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