tdc1 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) Disclaimer #1: I understand the focus of the ball test using the Maxfli Tour with Max Align Technology is intended to be on the usefulness of the alignment aid. However, the advent of “Third Winter” in mid-Michigan sent me back into the simulator once more to try getting some data with my driver. Disclaimer #2: I have an absolute phobia about hitting driver indoors (at least in the set-up available to me) so I’m pretty damn pleased with myself for getting the data below. Disclaimer #3: I was already planning to get a driver “tune up” this Spring but today’s experience reinforced the need for getting some professional input. Enough preamble — on to the results. Club: Ping G425 driver (10.5°) with Alta CB 55 R graphite shaft (head and back weight set to standard/neutral). Balls: TaylorMade Tour Response, Titleist Tour Speed, Srixon Q-Star Tour, Maxfli Tour, and Wilson Triad. Simulator: Uneekor (I don't know the model). I hit each ball multiple times using the 1¾“ Birtee. After deleting obvious outliers (tops/skyballs), 5 shots were included in the data set. Below are some numbers from today's session. As with previous clubs (SW, PW, 8i, 18° Hy-Wood), the Maxfli Tour was top two in terms of ball speed and Apex, but lowest in launch angle. I neglected to take a photo of the dispersion patter but, trust me, it wasn’t terribly pretty — all me, not the balls. As in tests with previous clubs, I could find no discernible difference in sound/feel between the MaxFli Tour and the other balls — I would be comfortable playing any of them based just on this criterion. After hitting the same Maxfli Tour for the equivalent of about 27 holes the only noticeable wear/abrasion can be seen in the photos below. Over heard someone saying 3-5" of snow on Friday! Good thing I got the Maxfli Tour out for 81 holes during our "Spring of Deception" earlier this month. Edited March 22 by tdc1 Correct typo BallsLeon and ScramblinMan 2 Quote Driver: Ping G425 Max (10.5º; Regular ) Fwy: Cobra King SZ (3; Regular); Ping G410 (5; Regular) Hybrids: Ping G410 (22º and 26º; Regular) Irons: Cleveland Launcher XL (6-U) Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 (54º/12º), and Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 (58º/8º) Putter: Ping Karsten Anser X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw1ns Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Same issue here in Iowa. 4-6inches expected over the weekend. Just need to get my distance putting test in sometime. May have to shovel a path! Interesting results, looks like the Maxfli flies a little lower for you.....which is weird considering the backspin and the results of the Triad with more backspin and higher apex. tdc1 and Rob Person 1 1 Quote Driver M2 9.5 deg. Tensei CK Series Blue 50 Stiff 3 Wood Steel Head Tensei CK Series Blue Reg. Hybrids M2 3-4H - Reg. Irons M2 5-PW Reg. Steel Wedges 52* 56* Vokey SM4 Black Putter Versa White Hot RX #7 35 inch SuperStroke Slim 3.0 Ball VICE Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdc1 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 11 minutes ago, tw1ns said: Same issue here in Iowa. 4-6inches expected over the weekend. Just need to get my distance putting test in sometime. May have to shovel a path! Interesting results, looks like the Maxfli flies a little lower for you.....which is weird considering the backspin and the results of the Triad with more backspin and higher apex. Updated us to 4-6" tomorrow. The driver is the only club so far where the Maxfli was the highest spinning -- usually bottom two. Perplexing. Rob Person 1 Quote Driver: Ping G425 Max (10.5º; Regular ) Fwy: Cobra King SZ (3; Regular); Ping G410 (5; Regular) Hybrids: Ping G410 (22º and 26º; Regular) Irons: Cleveland Launcher XL (6-U) Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 (54º/12º), and Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 (58º/8º) Putter: Ping Karsten Anser X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peejer Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Some testers have written about durability issues, but I can tell you I’m not seeing the same results. In the pics below, each ball has one full round of play (shot 78 & 79). No trees or cart paths, but was in several bunkers. the only thing I see on the balls is a little dirt, but no abrasions from grass, sand or my clubs. Submitted for your consideration. — Peejer BallsLeon, Rob Person, tdc1 and 3 others 6 Quote Stealth Driver ZX 3W RadSpeed 3-hybrid P790 (2021) irons (4-PW) CBX-2 GW, SW & LW ER7 Putter Q-Star Tour DIVIDE / Tour - Revolver XL 1500Li Cart NX9 HD Pro Rangefinder / S20 GPS Watch + Launch Monitor Denver, Colorado Home Course: Eisenhower Golf Club, USAF Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VernL4 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 10 hours ago, Peejer said: Some testers have written about durability issues, but I can tell you I’m not seeing the same results. In the pics below, each ball has one full round of play (shot 78 & 79). No trees or cart paths, but was in several bunkers. the only thing I see on the balls is a little dirt, but no abrasions from grass, sand or my clubs. Submitted for your consideration. — Peejer I can also say that I've not noticed any issues with durability. Mine HAVE met a few trees and even a cart path or two. I've not been able to recover those that have decided to go swimming, though. tdc1, ScramblinMan, Peejer and 3 others 4 1 1 Quote M6 clubs in the bag and a GARMIN Fenix 7 on the wrist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolferXY Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 "Some testers have written about durability issues, but I can tell you I’m not seeing the same results." Do the balls stain easily? Rob Person and Peejer 1 1 Quote -XY BALL: Titleist ProV1, Kirkland Signature WOODS: Taylormade Stealth2 +, Callaway Epic Flash 3-wood 3- and 4- HYBRID: Ping G30, stiff IRONS: Ping i525, 6 - U-wedge, 1 degree flat, ProjectX 5.5 110 g shafts WEDGES: Ping 4.0 60 degree, Titleist 56 degree SM8 PUTTER: L.A.B Mezz Max, 69 degree, 37 inch LA Golf shaft, 1.5 degree press grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdc1 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, GolferXY said: Do the balls stain easily? My limited on course experience with them is “no” — at least no more so than other balls in the price range. Hoping today’s snow is short-lived so I can spend more time outdoors looking at durability and discoloring. William P, Rob Person, Peejer and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Ping G425 Max (10.5º; Regular ) Fwy: Cobra King SZ (3; Regular); Ping G410 (5; Regular) Hybrids: Ping G410 (22º and 26º; Regular) Irons: Cleveland Launcher XL (6-U) Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 (54º/12º), and Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 (58º/8º) Putter: Ping Karsten Anser X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdc1 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Today’s simulator “discoveries”: (1) it doesn’t matter what ball you use — Titleist, TaylorMade, Srixon, Maxfli — if your driver launches at 19°+ and your backspin is in the neighborhood of 4800, the ball isn’t going very far; and, (2) the ball tracer on those shots sure is pretty to look at. Apparently, I’m only allowed one decent indoor session with driver before my phobia returns. Peejer and Rob Person 1 1 Quote Driver: Ping G425 Max (10.5º; Regular ) Fwy: Cobra King SZ (3; Regular); Ping G410 (5; Regular) Hybrids: Ping G410 (22º and 26º; Regular) Irons: Cleveland Launcher XL (6-U) Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 (54º/12º), and Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 (58º/8º) Putter: Ping Karsten Anser X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolferXY Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 14 hours ago, Peejer said: Some testers have written about durability issues, but I can tell you I’m not seeing the same results. In the pics below, each ball has one full round of play (shot 78 & 79). No trees or cart paths, but was in several bunkers. the only thing I see on the balls is a little dirt, but no abrasions from grass, sand or my clubs. Submitted for your consideration. — Peejer I've been looking at these pics and it looks like the ball on the left is discolored. Is that accurate? Peejer and Rob Person 1 1 Quote -XY BALL: Titleist ProV1, Kirkland Signature WOODS: Taylormade Stealth2 +, Callaway Epic Flash 3-wood 3- and 4- HYBRID: Ping G30, stiff IRONS: Ping i525, 6 - U-wedge, 1 degree flat, ProjectX 5.5 110 g shafts WEDGES: Ping 4.0 60 degree, Titleist 56 degree SM8 PUTTER: L.A.B Mezz Max, 69 degree, 37 inch LA Golf shaft, 1.5 degree press grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peejer Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 5 hours ago, GolferXY said: I've been looking at these pics and it looks like the ball on the left is discolored. Is that accurate? No staining on the balls, probably just poor lighting in my den. Rob Person and tdc1 2 Quote Stealth Driver ZX 3W RadSpeed 3-hybrid P790 (2021) irons (4-PW) CBX-2 GW, SW & LW ER7 Putter Q-Star Tour DIVIDE / Tour - Revolver XL 1500Li Cart NX9 HD Pro Rangefinder / S20 GPS Watch + Launch Monitor Denver, Colorado Home Course: Eisenhower Golf Club, USAF Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolferXY Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Thanks! Rob Person 1 Quote -XY BALL: Titleist ProV1, Kirkland Signature WOODS: Taylormade Stealth2 +, Callaway Epic Flash 3-wood 3- and 4- HYBRID: Ping G30, stiff IRONS: Ping i525, 6 - U-wedge, 1 degree flat, ProjectX 5.5 110 g shafts WEDGES: Ping 4.0 60 degree, Titleist 56 degree SM8 PUTTER: L.A.B Mezz Max, 69 degree, 37 inch LA Golf shaft, 1.5 degree press grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdc1 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 The most recent snowfall is rapidly disappearing so I hope to get back to the course on Monday or Tuesday to keep testing. As I mentioned in my intro post, I am a big fan of alignment aids like the TaylorMade Tour Response Stripe and Srixon Divide balls. I find the new alignment aid on the Maxfli Tour really helpful on the tee and for aligning putts. However, the feedback when hitting putts is not as strong to my eyes as the boldness of the design might indicate. So, I have made minor modifications to one sleeve of balls to see if there is any difference. Ball #1: a small red dot to the interior ends of the arrows. Ball #2: a thin red line down the center line of the arrows. Ball 3#: red fill in the outer margin lines of the arrows. I tried not to go overboard with the size of the markings. Will report back. Rob Person, GolferXY, William P and 1 other 3 1 Quote Driver: Ping G425 Max (10.5º; Regular ) Fwy: Cobra King SZ (3; Regular); Ping G410 (5; Regular) Hybrids: Ping G410 (22º and 26º; Regular) Irons: Cleveland Launcher XL (6-U) Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 (54º/12º), and Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 (58º/8º) Putter: Ping Karsten Anser X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 I like the dot, but the sidelines look sharp on there. Have you tried just marking the inside of the arrows? Northern Monkey and tdc1 2 Quote WITB-Foremost 551's - 3w, 5w, 5-SW (circa 1998), Top Flite 460cc Driver, Adam's 7w, Warrior GW and 60⁰, Odyssey AI-One DB putter. Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdc1 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 46 minutes ago, Rob Person said: I like the dot, but the sidelines look sharp on there. Have you tried just marking the inside of the arrows? These are the first variations. I'll probably try a couple of others after I see how these work. Rob Person 1 Quote Driver: Ping G425 Max (10.5º; Regular ) Fwy: Cobra King SZ (3; Regular); Ping G410 (5; Regular) Hybrids: Ping G410 (22º and 26º; Regular) Irons: Cleveland Launcher XL (6-U) Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 (54º/12º), and Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 (58º/8º) Putter: Ping Karsten Anser X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VernL4 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 On 3/23/2024 at 6:58 PM, tdc1 said: The most recent snowfall is rapidly disappearing so I hope to get back to the course on Monday or Tuesday to keep testing. As I mentioned in my intro post, I am a big fan of alignment aids like the TaylorMade Tour Response Stripe and Srixon Divide balls. I find the new alignment aid on the Maxfli Tour really helpful on the tee and for aligning putts. However, the feedback when hitting putts is not as strong to my eyes as the boldness of the design might indicate. So, I have made minor modifications to one sleeve of balls to see if there is any difference. Ball #1: a small red dot to the interior ends of the arrows. Ball #2: a thin red line down the center line of the arrows. Ball 3#: red fill in the outer margin lines of the arrows. I tried not to go overboard with the size of the markings. Will report back. I like this idea! I'm thinking about modifying the markings with a Sharpie as well. I hope to play a round on Friday to see if my adjustments make any difference. Rob Person and tdc1 2 Quote M6 clubs in the bag and a GARMIN Fenix 7 on the wrist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peejer Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 On 3/23/2024 at 4:58 PM, tdc1 said: The most recent snowfall is rapidly disappearing so I hope to get back to the course on Monday or Tuesday to keep testing. As I mentioned in my intro post, I am a big fan of alignment aids like the TaylorMade Tour Response Stripe and Srixon Divide balls. I find the new alignment aid on the Maxfli Tour really helpful on the tee and for aligning putts. However, the feedback when hitting putts is not as strong to my eyes as the boldness of the design might indicate. So, I have made minor modifications to one sleeve of balls to see if there is any difference. Ball #1: a small red dot to the interior ends of the arrows. Ball #2: a thin red line down the center line of the arrows. Ball 3#: red fill in the outer margin lines of the arrows. I tried not to go overboard with the size of the markings. Will report back. I was kicking around the idea of coloring in the arrows. The arrows are great for lining up, but aren't easy to watch once the ball starts rolling. For that, the Titleist Tour Response or Srixon Divide balls do a much better job. My only hesitation in coloring in the Maxfli arrows was it'll wear off pretty quickly. Rob Person, VernL4 and tdc1 2 1 Quote Stealth Driver ZX 3W RadSpeed 3-hybrid P790 (2021) irons (4-PW) CBX-2 GW, SW & LW ER7 Putter Q-Star Tour DIVIDE / Tour - Revolver XL 1500Li Cart NX9 HD Pro Rangefinder / S20 GPS Watch + Launch Monitor Denver, Colorado Home Course: Eisenhower Golf Club, USAF Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdc1 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 minute ago, Peejer said: I was kicking around the idea of coloring in the arrows. The arrows are great for lining up, but aren't easy to watch once the ball starts rolling. For that, the Titleist Tour Response or Srixon Divide balls do a much better job. My only hesitation in coloring in the Maxfli arrows was it'll wear off pretty quickly. I’ve used Sharpies for quite a while to identify my ball and/or alignment. Not uncommon to have to re-mark after a couple of rounds (as long as ball hasn’t become damaged). I'm very interested to see if my mods to the Maxfli makes any difference. Rob Person 1 Quote Driver: Ping G425 Max (10.5º; Regular ) Fwy: Cobra King SZ (3; Regular); Ping G410 (5; Regular) Hybrids: Ping G410 (22º and 26º; Regular) Irons: Cleveland Launcher XL (6-U) Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 (54º/12º), and Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 (58º/8º) Putter: Ping Karsten Anser X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw1ns Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 3/22/2024 at 11:38 AM, GolferXY said: "Some testers have written about durability issues, but I can tell you I’m not seeing the same results." Do the balls stain easily? I am not sure you would call it staining......they seem to clean up fine. Not that this is a great example....this pic was more for durability after a round. Shrek74, Rob Person and tdc1 3 Quote Driver M2 9.5 deg. Tensei CK Series Blue 50 Stiff 3 Wood Steel Head Tensei CK Series Blue Reg. Hybrids M2 3-4H - Reg. Irons M2 5-PW Reg. Steel Wedges 52* 56* Vokey SM4 Black Putter Versa White Hot RX #7 35 inch SuperStroke Slim 3.0 Ball VICE Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw1ns Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) IMG_5417.MOV Current state of testing in Iowa........... Edited March 26 by tw1ns Rob Person and VernL4 1 1 Quote Driver M2 9.5 deg. Tensei CK Series Blue 50 Stiff 3 Wood Steel Head Tensei CK Series Blue Reg. Hybrids M2 3-4H - Reg. Irons M2 5-PW Reg. Steel Wedges 52* 56* Vokey SM4 Black Putter Versa White Hot RX #7 35 inch SuperStroke Slim 3.0 Ball VICE Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peejer Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Took the Maxfli Tour MAX ALIGN balls out for yet another spin today. It was in pretty windy conditions (12-20mph winds) and I was actually really impressed with how they fared in the wind. The ball didn't balloon and generally held the line or at least had intended flight patterns based upon wind direction. I hit 14 of 18 greens, which is pretty exceptional for me, especially on a very windy day! I have a tournament on Friday and another on Saturday - I'm putting these balls in play for the two events!! -- Peejer Shrek74, ScramblinMan, William P and 2 others 4 1 Quote Stealth Driver ZX 3W RadSpeed 3-hybrid P790 (2021) irons (4-PW) CBX-2 GW, SW & LW ER7 Putter Q-Star Tour DIVIDE / Tour - Revolver XL 1500Li Cart NX9 HD Pro Rangefinder / S20 GPS Watch + Launch Monitor Denver, Colorado Home Course: Eisenhower Golf Club, USAF Academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VernL4 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Looking at the weather forecast for the next few days in NW Indiana, I decided to go ahead and finish my review. It has now been posted on the first page. Thank you to MGS and Maxfli! I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and look forward to any testing opportunities in the future! Tom Rob Person 1 Quote M6 clubs in the bag and a GARMIN Fenix 7 on the wrist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdc1 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I added my final review to my introductory/main post. Also, I've put the "Conclusion" early because the whole thing is a bit TL;DR. Thanks for comments and on my earlier posts in this thread! Rob Person and Shrek74 2 Quote Driver: Ping G425 Max (10.5º; Regular ) Fwy: Cobra King SZ (3; Regular); Ping G410 (5; Regular) Hybrids: Ping G410 (22º and 26º; Regular) Irons: Cleveland Launcher XL (6-U) Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 (54º/12º), and Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 (58º/8º) Putter: Ping Karsten Anser X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 @tdc1 I would also like to see these in yellow. As for as more color, the 2024 TM tour response balls jumped on that quickly with the full circumference color alignment. Glad they seemed to work out for you! tdc1 and Northern Monkey 2 Quote WITB-Foremost 551's - 3w, 5w, 5-SW (circa 1998), Top Flite 460cc Driver, Adam's 7w, Warrior GW and 60⁰, Odyssey AI-One DB putter. Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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