cnosil Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 14 minutes ago, Donn lost in San Diego said: In 1982 the new Ping Eye 2 PW was 49 or 50 degrees. My 2018 model of the I 500, the PW is 44 or 45 loft. Anybody know where to find lofts of 1960s and 1970s Macgregor and Wilsons? Were PW lofts even higher than 50 when Arnie vs Jack was the weekly battle? Just have to search the internet. Can find some resources. here are some typical lofts from that era HikingMike, IndyBonzo, Kenny B and 2 others 3 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 16 minutes ago, Donn lost in San Diego said: In 1982 the new Ping Eye 2 PW was 49 or 50 degrees. My 2018 model of the I 500, the PW is 44 or 45 loft. Anybody know where to find lofts of 1960s and 1970s Macgregor and Wilsons? Were PW lofts even higher than 50 when Arnie vs Jack was the weekly battle? in the 60s and 70s pw was 52° it moved to 50° in the 80s but clubs were also starting to change then. In the 90s as more club options became available pw moved to 48°. The i500 is a hollow body players distance club. It’s a completely different design than clubs from early 2000s and older. Comparing lofts between a blade and this type of club is nearly pointless. The design for the hollow body is going to be far less spin than an mb. Even between the i500 and i210 on similar strikes I saw a 500 rpm difference in spin and a couple degrees difference in launch. It would be no different than comparing the i500 to the Titleist T100, their CB and MB lofts. They are different designs and thus lofts have to be different to account for the launch and spin IndyBonzo, Rob Person and Kenny B 3 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donn lost in San Diego Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) I finally learned how to move pix from phone to laptop (too complicated for an Excel spreadsheet power user circa 1995). Here in all its' glory is my Don Martin 25 degrees loft, brass and copper, Up-N-In chipper. Dates back to the Rat Pack era in Palm Springs. His company was founded in 1959. Grip is flat on top side, length 36". USGA says I can't put a flat side new superstroke style grip on it, permitted only on putters and the max loft for a putter is 7 degrees. These sell for $20 used online. I obtained it about 6 years ago. I use it up to about 20 yards out where putting is not an option. Since the shaft is putter length it is easier than a longer iron to handle it like a tennis racket or a knife on a dinner plate. I can chop it down through thick rough. Practice, practice, practice. I use a 60 deg wedge only to go over sand or crocodiles and snakes. I also had a Stan Thompson (of Ginty fame) Closup but gave it away. The Closup shaft is an inch or two longer, stainless & chrome grooved head, and I could use it for longer pokes than the flat Up-N-In. I find the Martin to be more accurate. Does anybody need it? No, but I carry one less long club in the bag so I can carry this. I only need 3 clubs between driver and 6 iron. Of course, I only drive 250 yards max. For now. Unlike most of you bruisers. Edited June 22 by Donn lost in San Diego Didn't finish my writeup. Rob Person and IndyBonzo 1 1 Quote Drv: PXG 0211 10.5 deg, Evnflo Riptide CB 40 gram A flex; and 2004 Callaway 454 Ti 10 deg on RCH 65 regular flex. 3W: Callaway Steelhead Xr Tensei Blue CK 55 gram A flex. 5W : Titleist TSi 1 on Aldila Ascent 40 regular flex. Driving Iron: Mizuno MP 18 MMC Fli-Hi 3i 18 degree, Recoil 95 reg flex. 4 iron: GFF Mizuno Fly-Hi, 24 degree hollow body. 5 Hybrid: Mizuno 2017 version JPX Fli-Hi wave tech, Recoil ESX 460 reg flex. 6 - PW: Ping I 500, on Recoil Smacwrap ES 760, reg flex. Wedges: 52/9 GFF Mizuno S5; Lob: 60/6 GFF Mizuno T7; Sand: old 56/12 Hogan Sure Out, heavy sole, Apex shaft. Chipper: Ancien Regime Don Martin "Up n In" brass/bronze. Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab "R" Ball, face balanced, 2 piece, Stroke Lab multi material shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Person Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 3 hours ago, Donn lost in San Diego said: I finally learned how to move pix from phone to laptop (too complicated for an Excel spreadsheet power user circa 1995). Here in all its' glory is my Don Martin 25 degrees loft, brass and copper, Up-N-In chipper. Dates back to the Rat Pack era in Palm Springs. His company was founded in 1959. Grip is flat on top side, length 36". USGA says I can't put a flat side new superstroke style grip on it, permitted only on putters and the max loft for a putter is 7 degrees. These sell for $20 used online. I obtained it about 6 years ago. I use it up to about 20 yards out where putting is not an option. Since the shaft is putter length it is easier than a longer iron to handle it like a tennis racket or a knife on a dinner plate. I can chop it down through thick rough. Practice, practice, practice. I use a 60 deg wedge only to go over sand or crocodiles and snakes. I also had a Stan Thompson (of Ginty fame) Closup but gave it away. The Closup shaft is an inch or two longer, stainless & chrome grooved head, and I could use it for longer pokes than the flat Up-N-In. I find the Martin to be more accurate. Does anybody need it? No, but I carry one less long club in the bag so I can carry this. I only need 3 clubs between driver and 6 iron. Of course, I only drive 250 yards max. For now. Unlike most of you bruisers. That's awesome! It looks like someone took a 9i and just cut the face in half and rounded the edges. Quote WITB-Foremost 551's - 3w, 5w, 5-SW (circa 1998), Top Flite 460cc Driver, Adam's 7w, Warrior GW and 60⁰, Odyssey AI-One DB putter. Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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