[Any good higher lofted woods out there?]

Looks like tour edge is making up to 11 wood and ping is making up to a 9 wood

I found both on globalgolf.com

 

[Fitting/ Lie angle question!]

On 2/27/2021 at 9:58 AM, kmlp95 said:

awesome, thank you aswell I also enjoy other peoples opinions. anyone feel free to throw your 2 cents in here. 

I am struggling with a similar fit vs ball flight problem. My wrist to floor is much higher than what standard loft/lie clubs "fit" but I have been able to adjust my swing with most standard clubs or 2° upright.

Flat lie angles, no matter how I adjust, come into the turf toe down. This can cause the toe to dig first and open during the swing. Then to make ball first contact I would purposely hit thinner which developed a flinch.

All this to say that fitted to my specs of 2° upright allowed the sole of the club to enter the turf squarely. This allowed me to swing more freely and more accurate. 

One of my missed is getting stuck on my back foot and swiping the club across my body resulting in a pull. When I can keep my balance then I am able to swing out to the ball better which starts the ball online for me. Even with standard loft and lie clubs, with an in to out balanced swing I can get great turf interaction but my setup is a bit more squatted by a lil bit. 

I am going to try and get fit with longer clubs to see if that might help me not have to crouch so much. I feel fine with my mid irons but my shory irons and wedges feel too short. I don't like the feeling of standing really upright with the clubs more up and down so a longer club might help me get what I want. Time will tell with the help of fitter. 

[Casual Golfers]

On 3/2/2021 at 12:24 PM, mattywire said:

Do you like your own space to practice? No, I prefer going to the range at the course. Trying to practice at home is distracting.

•    Would you like to see statistics such as ball spin rate, carry distance and total distance etc? Sure, but I don't want to pay extra for it! Ha

•    Do you find you don’t have the time in the week or do you go after work or just weekends practice/play?  You have plenty of time in the morning to play and practice. I practice when I have time and I make time to practice. Both are crucial for me. I enjoy my range sessions.

 Suggested layout below
•    Do you like to play in all weathers or just when its sunny? Most weather other than very windy or heavy rain. I'm my area, light scattered showers makes for an empty course which is really nice. Sunny weather is a crowded course so I have to be ready for a slow  round

When do you practice/play?   Weekdays    -    Weekday Evenings  - Weekends. All of the above 

Would access to a golf simulator help to improve your performance? I would think so... If it was accurate and I could just swing normal instead of playing the game, "how far can I hit!?"

See my answers above inline with the questions

[Refurbish / Refinish Putter DIY]

I saw online the "putterlounge" website has a refinish service but the cost seems like you could buy a mint used putter for about the same money. 

My TM putter is white and had some bag chatter like yours. I found some fingernail polish at the 99¢ store hid the bare metal from a distance at a glance. Close inspection reveals the chips are filled but it isn't a pricey putter or collectible. 

Yours is red so finding a closer color match might look to car touchup paint, mixing fingernail polish colors if you are only looking to cover up the bare metal as an easy fix. 

The right way to do it would be to take it apart, remove the paint, repaint it, repaint the white lettering and lines, reassemble.

It is very difficult to refinish like new without taking it fully apart. 

The cost to have it refinished by putterlounge is $129 plus $40 to repaint the line... Seems like about the cost of a used one. 

[More or less offset]

My personal experience with more and less offset is that I got used to whatever I game consistently with practice. 

My Ping G2 irons have lots of offset and it didn't make me hit super left. My Titleist 735.CM irons have way less offset and they didn't go right. Hitting my friends Callaway Apex Forged had little offset and no issues. 

I would assume people who actively rotate the face would be more susceptible to offset. 

If the club is neutral and not being manipulated then it would seem offset would have less impact on face angle because of less face closure rate in a passive swing. 

Additionally, club path and offset may interact if the path is extremely angular instead of more neutral

[WTB: Taylormade R15 10.5° Head Driver - OK to close]

On 2/13/2021 at 4:02 PM, ejgaudette said:

I actually have one in my basement right now. PM if interested.

Thank you. Received it and delivered to my veteran and golf buddy - he is ecstatic! 

Ok to close.

[Having a 21 degree 4 Hybrid and 21 degree 4 iron]

First, same loft with different head weights and shaft lengths and shaft material will produce different results = they are not the same because of the same loft.

Generally, 4h loft replaces a 3i, but in your case the 4i loft is a 3i loft. My 4i is 24° and 3i is 21° but the point isn't the number on the bottom of the club for me. The graphite shaft that is longer than the equivalent lofted iron with a shorter steel shaft produces a faster clubhead speed for me with the hybrid. The COG of the hybrid also produces a much different flight. 

I guess the bigger question for you is if you pull the 4i then what would you add to lower your scores? If you can answer that question then do it. If you can't then keep the 4i. 

[any point learning to flop shot with lower loft clubs?]

On 2/22/2021 at 8:07 AM, Timmytoe said:

I just practise the flop shot using my lob wedge but is there situations where learning it with a sand, gap or pitching wedge be useful?

Yes, I can think of two reasons of using an iron instead of a wedge for a lob style swing:

• Very fluffy lies where the ball is sitting up and a wedge played open would go right under the ball. A less lofted club played open may actually have more effective bounce to prevent going completely under the ball.
• Longer bunker shots around 30-70 yards made easy by using an iron and similar swing to sand wedge with an open face. Opening the face adds loft and bounce, and with less loft to begin with the ball will launch lower and farther without having to swing harder. 

As with any specialty shot, without practice the likelihood of pulling it off is low. So, practice it when you can. If your stuck behind a slow group then hit a couple extra approach shots from terrible lies, bunkers, and/or with different clubs to develop that feel. One of my favorite time to get course practice is about 90 mins before dusk getting a super twilight tee time where I know I wouldn't even finish 9 holes.

Trying a shot you never practice is what I call a "Hero Shot" but practicing a shot you might need one day is part of what makes golf imaginative. I use my range time to hit recovery shots like low punch shots, 20 yard curling shots with an open face 8 iron to 90 yards, and hooks to help me undo some messes I find myself in regularly.

[Training aids are expensive]

Some training Aids are cheaper than others:

• Arm sleeve trainer $12
• Arm wrist angle $10
• Reflector Stick from Home Depot is a perfect alignment stick for $2
• Also, Smash Bag $25
• Orange Whip Clone $37 (yellow version)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08NVQFG1T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_EcM7FbCWTJZX0?tag=mochaglobal-20&ascsubtag=srctok-aba1768b9dd1aa2a&btn_ref=srctok-aba1768b9dd1aa2a

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08FH5M9N4/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&th=1

 

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-48-in-Reflective-Rod-in-Orange-31474/304685319 

 

[Help: Ping G2 vs Cleveland CG Gold ??]

Updates: I had a chance to hit the Cleveland CG Gold - wow! The difference is substantial without being in another world. 

The Cleveland offset is less, the bounce is less, and the shaft seems heavier than my Ping G2 irons. I was surprised how it seems more effortless to swing faster and make better contact with the Cleveland clubs. 

I can't read the label on the shaft for flex which makes me wonder if it is S300 or X100 or DG SL... Time will tell. 

[alternative putter to the Evnroll ER8]

On 2/13/2021 at 4:22 PM, Middler said:

I bought an ER2 a few years ago. Then I thought I wanted an ER8, but after trying several Evnroll models head to head, I bought an ER5B GG. I’ve never regretted it.

 

On 2/13/2021 at 4:18 PM, Clemsonfan said:

What about the ER 5 or ER 7?  Would either of those work?  20-25* Toe hang?  Might be viable options.  Good luck in your search. I am getting fitted on Thursday after changing my stroke a little bit after watching David Edel videos.  

 

On 2/10/2021 at 9:17 AM, kevin_grant said:

i have been saving money to buy a mallet putter, an Evnroll ER8 putter since I saw MGS reviews 3 months ago. i made an order at the South Africa distributor (i am in Zimbabwe) now i hear it has been discontinued. i know the ER7 won the year ER8 but ER8 numbers seemed better and i just loved its review and learned towards it.

what is an alternative Evnroll putter to have now that ER8 is being discontinued. i am not sure why this is happening for a winning putter. somehow i seem stuck because i saved up just for that ER8. its the only one i want. am i crazy that my heart was set for the one putter and only that putter.

 

My buddy bought the ER7 and we have tried them side by side - very similar. I second the ER7 or even the ER5 if you don't need the longer sight line of the 7/8. 

Used is also a good shout! I bought my ER8 used for $200 around 2 years ago - glad I did. 

[Help! Making a Final Putter Call]

I would recommend the milled face Mizuno if you want the feedback from the putter head. 

If you prefer the soft insert feel then it is a personal preference. The soft insert masks mishits more than a solid face. 

I would not say distance control is better with the softer face because it is hard to feel the impact as much. Swing consistency is more important than face material for distance control. I would ask what about the Cleveland makes it easier for you to control the distance like weight, shaft, or loft?

[To pay or not to pay - new irons]

12 hours ago, Brian_In_Michigan said:

I have owned my lefty T-Zoid Mizuno irons for about 20 years and I am ready to buy a new set of irons.  I demo’d the Taylormade Sim 2 irons (steel shaft / stiff) at local Dick’s Sporting Goods but I can’t justify paying that much when I am pretty much a weekend golfer.  I have seen the Taylormade M2’s for less than half the price online and I was wondering if anyone can tell me if they would be comparable for the price to the “feel” of the Sims that I tried?  Hard to find a store that has them in stock to demo so looking for someone to tell me if the price difference is justified or will they be close enough in performance for a hacker like me.

Thanks in advance for your responses.

I'm curious why you aren't looking at Mizuno clubs if you have been playing them for 20+ years? 

I'm all for buying used clubs to save money. However, it is good to get fit for flex, lie, length, and etc to make sure the used set is in the right ballpark.

[Help: Ping G2 vs Cleveland CG Gold ??]

I have been gaming Ping G2 irons with the Ping steel stiff shafts. 

I have also happened to come upon a set of Cleveland CG Gold MCT irons with DG shafts. 

Does anyone have any insight on what is different, better, or worse between them? 

From what I gather they are both game improvement, over sized, cavity back with wide soles. So, is there a significant difference in bounce, offset, or COG?

I enjoy the forgiveness of the G2 with my only complaint being launching a bit too high, and less feedback on mishits. 

I haven't had a chance to hit the Cleveland clubs yet. Just looking for some help on what I might expect.

[I was solicited by Patriot Golf]

16 minutes ago, tehuti said:

I got a “free” 60° wedge from Warrior several years ago that was a piece of crap. I avoided them after that.


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I agree. The Warrior stuff I have tried is on par with Walmart store clubs. Anything from the big 3 and little 3 is way better. 

Big 3 - Titleist, Taylormade, Callaway

Lil 3 - Ping, Cobra, Srixon

Honorable Mention: Adams, Cleveland, Wilson, Tour Edge

Muira and Mizuno are no brainers

[Have you golfed more or less due to the pandemic?]

Less, way less. 

Two big contributing factors:

1. Funds ran extremely low for a 6+mo stretch. I didn't want to interact with the public for the off chance of passing Covid to loved ones. 

2. The cost to golf went up dramatically in my area due to the new found popularity of golf because it was the only activity available which also made tee times tougher to get. 

I'm my region of Orange County CA there is a golf management company called American Golf that manages quite a few municipal courses within a 30 mile radius. They had a very attractive membership to my local course which included 100 practice balls a day in the range and no cart fee for golf with a free beverage with the round. Additionally, they had a feature allowing you to get the same discounted rate at their sister courses for a $1 extra reservation fee online and you pay the green fee at the course. But, Covid eliminated the use of sister courses, green fees went up, and carts are now extra. 

Before Covid: weekday twilight round after 1pm was $10 with a cart and an adult beverage at my home course. Similar rates in the $13-20 range at sister courses with the same deal and a $1 reservation fee. 

After Covid: no sister course discounts, $15 to walk, $28 to ride and no beverage

The membership was $34 per month with is still with it for the range balls. I will probably sign up next month again. I miss the cheap greens fees with options. 

[I was solicited by Patriot Golf]

13 hours ago, cnosil said:

This marketing strategy has been around for a while. Warrior golf was the first on that comes to mind. I get emails from patriot and one other that I can’t remember.

I have no personal experience but Have heard the equipment isn’t horrible but it is difficult to return if you choose to return.

 

13 hours ago, viking said:

Warrior was and or is scam, can't return and get money back, many have stated that. Sounds to good to be true, it usually is.

It's about a 45 min drive for me to their door... Makes returns that much easier. I might just have to go down and visit. If the other thread is correct that their fairways compete with TM M6 then I might have to give it a go. 

[I was solicited by Patriot Golf]

Looks like another thread does exist but the offer and clubs look very different now?

 

[I was solicited by Patriot Golf]

I received a marketing email from Patriot Golf with an offer for free wedges when I participate in their test play program. I was intrigued so I called.

Basically, if you buy a wood or hybrid with a 45 day return guaranty then you get to keep the 3 wedges regardless if you keep the wood/hybrid or not. 

I passed on the deal, but it made me think. Has anyone heard of or tried their stuff?

[forged cavity back irons]

Maltby PTM, DBM Forged to name a couple found on Golfworks.com (I'm a customer)

When you say game improvement I hear it as: slightly larger head, wider sole, a little more offset. 

When you say Forged Cavity Back I think of something almost the same as a blade with a small head, little offset, similar to a blade sole and a tiny bit of perimeter weighting.

A lot of the manufacturing techniques are hybrids now with Forged faces welded to cast bodies and polymer/foam inserts for the smooth feel and sound. This category is the players distance iron that actually has a lot of the game improvement characteristics in a hot head. I would check them out too. 

A true Forged from one piece of steel iron head is limited to smooshing its shape into being, so it's usually limited to more traditional head styles.

[Who will be the next past Masters Champ to get out of the slump and win big, Bubba Watson or Jordon Speith?]

I'd rather see Bubba win. I like the guy and his attitude during the charity practice rounds. 

Spieth has a real swing problem which seems to be a little too much trying to manufacture shots than having a pure swing. It could be the extra strength that comes with age/working out since his wins? He won more when he was less strong. 

Bubba is a flipper of the club which is a speed generator. However, it takes perfect timing to pull it off. He has done it before and hopefully he will again. The shot tracers are fun to watch when he's on the tee. 

[The better F golfer Finau or Fowler]

@viking Finau if he unlocks his potential. 

I believe Tony Finau is only swinging at about 70% of his full swing. I'd like to see him get comfortable pressing a bit more to the 85-90% effort. He would be in the top 3 for distance, his confidence would increase, and he would be even more geared to win. 

My opinion is that his mindset of not having to swing nearer to full also leaves him less hungry/competitive for the win.

Look at how much effort Justin Thomas puts in his swing and the wins he has racked up. 

I want to see Tony tee it up with some balls.

[Where will the next Patrick Reed controversy be?]

16 hours ago, Middler said:

+1. Who cares? If you don't like Reed, don't follow/root for him. This thread seems like enjoying wishing for bad things on others...

 

12 hours ago, viking said:

Totally the opposite/ I really like Reed since he wont the Masters, all the negatvity then against him was bogus and he should not be criticize for it, he was and is faithful to his loving wife. Yes some of his lie improvements seem to be cheating and it is funny for people to be so upset over this but yes it is wrong and yes I do like him and wish him well, he is a good golfer and a much better person than Tiger, so stop all the Tiger loving BS as he does not deserve it and stop all the Reed bashing as he does not deserve it while Tiger does. The golf world is all screwed up praising Tiger while bashing Reed, hoping Tiger wins and hoping Reed loses is totally mixed up and backwards, Reed is the better man. Tiger is the greatest cheater not Reed.

All the negativity could be because he looks similar to the Stay Puff Marshmallow Man from Ghostbusters?

[How often do you update equipment?]

7 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

Saving this into the archives to serve as a reference point should my wife ever start giving me smack about golf equipment purchases (she never has thus far ). 

Only 4 years in the game and 5 complete bags, wow, I think a few of our forums most notorious might be jealous .

Haha, that made me smile. 

My bags are:

1. My Gamers
2. Loaners for when friends come around: Callaway XR Driver, Taylormade hybrids and Supersteel BubbleShaft irons
3. Ladies set - for the off chance: Maltby Logic Irons, lady 3 wood, white bag
4. Vintage-ish set of Wood woods Ping EYE2 Driver, ISI Tour 3w, 5w and Hogan Irons, Bullseye Putter or Ping Anser
5. Blades/Players Bag: Titleist 735.cm irons or Cleveland TA3 Form Forged, with Xstiff woods and utilities - one can dream
6. I also have a Sunday bag with random Antique hickory clubs that I take out a couple times a year

I have another 2-3 full sets coming Friday... Not sure if this is a problem yet.

[PUREing your driver]

I have heard stories, don't remember where I heard it, about people having a set of irons, but one or two clubs in the bag always gave them trouble when compared to the relativity of their other irons. 

Somewhere in the story something ended up being either out of spec in some fashion that was measurable. It could have been swing weight caused by inconsistent shaft weight on an assembly line. It could have been an aggressive spine that bent weird. The reality was that greater care in assembly to ensure consistency and repeatability was needed. Whether someone pays for spine aligning, FLO, or SST Pure it would seem that greater attention to detail would follow. 

I watched a video recently of a gentleman club builder demonstrating FLO of a shaft. He mentioned that once the Flat Line Oscillation axis was found that the rules of golf state it would be a breach to install the club head so as to create a fade or draw bias. I found it fascinating that assembly of the club is regulated so rigorously for the pros. At the same time, if the USGA sees a possibility for an unfair advantage to how the shaft is installed then I can't ignore that it matters.