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I have updated my testing post with my initial impressions. Go check it out, if you have any question let me know. 

Those shafts look awesome thats for sure! 
Gotta love sinking long putts too!

I have updated my testing post with my initial impressions. Go check it out, if you have any question let me know. 

The think with the Edel fitting process is so do the whole thing you need at least an hour so hard to have any of the first 3. 
 
The main thing I think others should adopt is the aiming aspect of the fitting. Most fittings I see all talk about stroke and what type putter you need for that stroke. That is all important as well. But as someone who used to work in the industry mainly on the teaching side. Most issues come from compensations and the first and most common compensation I would see stemmed from alignment and putting is no different. 

Your right at the end of the day face angle at impact and being able to repeat that is the most important. This is why you have many different swings and putting strokes among the world’s best. And for someone who can do that with poor starting alignment you don’t change. The reason I focus on starting alignment as much as I do is compensation breeds inconsistencies even in the world’s best. It’s just they can repeat that compensation at such a constant level you would not make huge changes at that point because of the amount of time it would take to change and get back to their current repeatability. But let’s face it none of us are on that level of body control and or have the time needed to ingrain it to that level. So eliminating as much competition as possible is usually the best path and alignment despite being a very common problem is one of the easiest to fix and practice. As a side note on this subject as well the above is not taking in account compensations that have to be made for physical limitations which of course have to be taken account for when necessary. 

The think with the Edel fitting process is so do the whole thing you need at least an hour so hard to have any of the first 3. 
 
The main thing I think others should adopt is the aiming aspect of the fitting. Most fittings I see all talk about stroke and what type putter you need for that stroke. That is all important as well. But as someone who used to work in the industry mainly on the teaching side. Most issues come from compensations and the first and most common compensation I would see stemmed from alignment and putting is no different. 

Agreed hard not to say Scheffler. I would like to see Rory finally get a masters or Fleetwood finally get one. 

This was added to my main post so if you read it there it is the same.
 
Initial Impression (20 of 20):
Today marks the completion with my first weekend with these new shafts, so I thought I would write out my initial impressions. I do not have the weights that were recommended for my 3 wood and hybrid, yet.
First, the looks. These shafts are not painted, just 2 coats of clear coat. The carbon is visible and they are a black smoky look with a bright yellow sticker in the upper portion of the shaft. While I am generally conservative in my likes, I wouldn’t mind if they were totally yellow because I love the flash on golf shafts. But they are not painted. Overall, they look awesome. 


These shafts are much different than the Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6S than I was playing before in the driver and variations in the fm and hybrid. The very scientific waggle test made me question the wisdom of the shafts selected for me by Jon Sinclair. We sort of “eased into” this shaft and in the intervening 18 days between fitting and delivery I had forgotten how they felt.
It should be noted that this lead time was solely because of this review. If we would have paid cash money for these shafts we would have left with them in the bag that day. Originally, the factory was going to ship them direct to us, and not deplete Jon’s inventory, but then it was determined they would ship them to Jon, and he would build them. I’m certain that the adjustment to these would have been more seamless if I would have had them immediately. Even so it was more me than the shafts. 
The first day, Friday, was not very good. On the front 9, I used the driver 5 times, the 3 wood 3 times, and the hybrid 3 times. Absolutely terrible results. On the 10th hole, I remembered Jon chastised me for not swing hard with them, so I decided that after a 48 on the front, it was not like I as going to ruin a good round so I started swinging more aggressively. These became totally different shafts. While they feel “loose” with a waggle, they feel “stable and powerful” with a full swing. 

My swing is a work in progress but has improved all weekend. Also, my irons and wedges were simply atrocious today. My putting was good as usual. 
This is the strokes gained stats from March 13th when I shot an 80.

This is typical of my rounds. I have 7 rounds with a score of 80 in GolfShots. My Strokes Gained off the tee all range from -2.89 to -6.95. Approach shots range from +0.54 to -5.8. Short Game from +2.8 to -2.8 and Putting ranges from +3 to +5.4. Obviously the long game is the worst part of my game. 
Here is today’s 80 stats.

As I said, today the irons were not good at all. I actually bladed two shots that skipped a couple of times across water hazards and still got on the green. One which I holed out a 45’ birdie putt, causing my competitor who had a 3’ birdie putt to call me bad names. Wedges were disappointing also. 
The driver came around on the back 9 on Friday. I would say the 3 wood began to show drastic improvement on Saturday and hybrid today. After the round my competitors brought up how much my long game has improved with these shafts. Although the guy I covered up his birdie was still unhappy about that. 

Based on the reduction in the strokes gained I give these shafts a 20 of 20 on initial impressions. 

Looking forward to getting the TPT Golf Power Range 18 LO for my Driver, 17 HI for my 3 wood and the 17 LO in my 5 hybrid.
Hoping they will arrive in the next week or so.

Awesome these are arriving! Excited to hear how you all find they perform across the board!

100% 

I have the new version of the Great Big Bertha paired with a Kai'Li Red and am really happy with it!! 👍

Your right at the end of the day face angle at impact and being able to repeat that is the most important. This is why you have many different swings and putting strokes among the world’s best. And for someone who can do that with poor starting alignment you don’t change. The reason I focus on starting alignment as much as I do is compensation breeds inconsistencies even in the world’s best. It’s just they can repeat that compensation at such a constant level you would not make huge changes at that point because of the amount of time it would take to change and get back to their current repeatability. But let’s face it none of us are on that level of body control and or have the time needed to ingrain it to that level. So eliminating as much competition as possible is usually the best path and alignment despite being a very common problem is one of the easiest to fix and practice. As a side note on this subject as well the above is not taking in account compensations that have to be made for physical limitations which of course have to be taken account for when necessary. 

The think with the Edel fitting process is so do the whole thing you need at least an hour so hard to have any of the first 3. 
 
The main thing I think others should adopt is the aiming aspect of the fitting. Most fittings I see all talk about stroke and what type putter you need for that stroke. That is all important as well. But as someone who used to work in the industry mainly on the teaching side. Most issues come from compensations and the first and most common compensation I would see stemmed from alignment and putting is no different. 

Your right at the end of the day face angle at impact and being able to repeat that is the most important. This is why you have many different swings and putting strokes among the world’s best. And for someone who can do that with poor starting alignment you don’t change. The reason I focus on starting alignment as much as I do is compensation breeds inconsistencies even in the world’s best. It’s just they can repeat that compensation at such a constant level you would not make huge changes at that point because of the amount of time it would take to change and get back to their current repeatability. But let’s face it none of us are on that level of body control and or have the time needed to ingrain it to that level. So eliminating as much competition as possible is usually the best path and alignment despite being a very common problem is one of the easiest to fix and practice. As a side note on this subject as well the above is not taking in account compensations that have to be made for physical limitations which of course have to be taken account for when necessary. 

Stroke is definitely less important than face angle almost to the point of being meaningless since it influences ball direction by 5-15% depending on who you read.   What I think isn't discussed enough with Edel or most any putter OEM is face angle at impact.   I can aim perfectly every time but if the face doesn't return to the correct angle the putt will go offline.   This could be "fixed" by saying that the player needs to return the face to the same orientation as the perfect aim that Edel helps you establish.   We could look at many PGA pros; I know they are really different and we shouldn't compare since they have and continue to practice what they do,  that don't aim the face perfectly.     

If Sheffler wins today and takes off next week, he would be hard NOT to pick. Clark and Schafflee would have to be my other picks. 
LIV, Id  pick Rahm for b2b wins. 

If he putts like 2015!! Watch out!!

Brooks or Wyndom Clark  

I will take Brooks for the LIV win.
Dark horse is Theegala
And i'll predict Phil wakes up and plays four solid rounds for a top ten finish.
Unfortunately i think Rory puts too much pressure on himself to get the slam and has a horrific 2nd round but does back door a top ten finish.

Nobody thinking Spieth can pull a rabbit out for 4 rounds and get a chance at the title?

I’ll echo what most others have stated, Scheffler is probably an easy pick as a solid candidate for the win. If I picked who I really want to see win though, definitely Tommy Fleetwood who is one of my favorites to watch. 

I’m taking Xander this year. 

It's going to be close I think so many in the field I can see winning.   I will say Schauffelle.  Dark horses the Canadians, Harman, Clark.  Would like to see Bubba win out of the LIV guys.

wow, I was just thinking about this yesterday.
Rory for the win
Nick Taylor dark horse
Cameron Smith if an LIV player should win.
Although I am not on the phone with Vegas with those picks lol