L.I. Rich
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Played yesterday and today in pretty crummy weather, but was grateful that the course for the opportunity to take advantage of it.
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Just got word my course is reopening! No practice facilities, clubhouse, restaurant, 1 person per cart. Can’t wait for Saturday.
- MattF, tony@CIC, silver & black and 1 other
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I placed my order back on February 11, and received it on the 17th. At the time the site said it was back ordered. Anyway, circumstances have certainly changed since then. Courses are closed for who knows how long here, so I should really do more with it than I have now that my golf time won’t be used on the course.
My experience with the planemate so far has been quite good, but limited. In the five weeks I’ve owned it, I’ve worn it maybe a total of 2.5 hours, including a 45 minute session in a Trackman simulator bay. I have also played six rounds or so in that time, and have equaled my personal best low score at my home course, and three others were within a few shots. Furthermore, that personal best round closed with a bogey, triple. Ugh. For February and March, these scores don’t happen for me. My low scores come in August and September.
Personally, there was a lot of low hanging fruit. The basic protocols have really improved my game from 150 in. I can take a five (let’s say) iron, swing it halfway to halfway, and chase a shot up onto the green (or close and not in trouble) that doesn’t get more than 10 feet off the ground from anywhere now. I used to have lots of trouble turning that shot over and hooking it into fescue and trees. Chipping and pitching doesn’t cause uncertainty. I approach the shot confident that whatever shot I choose, I’ll make clean contact and start it on my chosen line. I used to feel very defensive in the short game.
Like someone who reads the last chapter first, I did try the full swing protocols without mastering the early stuff. Full confession, I stink at the one handed shots. I have lots of difficulty still with the top hand (right cause I’m righty) crossing over the bottom on my follow through, around waist high, causing the band to wrap around me. Makes me feel completely uncoordinated. It’s a process and I guess I’ll have to follow it. Now I have the time.
This product has been very helpful to me personally. It has helped me with shallowing out the downswing, sequencing, maintaining spine angle, and hip rotation throughout the swing. On the trackman, the results have been a much smaller delta between my club path and face angle at impact. That equals straighter shots.
Cheers everyone.
- cksurfdude and sirchunksalot
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So you can afford your golf habit!
- tony@CIC, MattF and MaxEntropy
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Two daughters in college now and one more will be in two years. $ave a$ much a$ po$$ible!
- MattF, tony@CIC and MaxEntropy
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Sounds like you’ve found a situation that fits your needs, and with it being non-equity, you have no long term commitment.
- GolfSpy BOS and tony@CIC
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If you can afford it and it fits socially, then go for it.
Let’s see, what’s not to like?
- usually much better practice facilities
- pace of play is better than public = by a great deal near me
- tournaments and competitions are lots of fun
- locker rooms, bag storage, attendants
- demo clubs from pro shop
- get to test all the new stuff when the OEMs come to do demo days
- staff are super focused on getting you whatever you need (hustling for tips, but never any sense of entitlement to one)
- usually nice restaurant and grill room
- spontaneous access - you can usually just show up and play
Potential cons, lots of which are related to having paid up front and being locked in
- Course maintenance issues for any number of reasons (weather, personnel, etc.)
- Add on fees (these should be anticipated going in)
- changes to membership - groups coming or going changing the morale or comeraderie of the membership
- if an 18 hole club, a sense of lack of variety
i was fortunate to be able to go private several years ago, and I have loved it. Definitely not a value proposition in terms of $/round, but I appreciate all the extras enough for it to be worth it.
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1 hour ago, Trial&Error said:
@L.I. Rich man just hang in there. Do NOT be afraid to take a few days or a week away from the training and come back. Sometimes this can benefit you.
As an aside........we all gotta remember also, golf and the golf swing is very complex, and sometimes we point fingers at unrelated issues. Remember, "correlation is not always causation." Sometimes. I'll use example of myself this last week, I played like hammered poop, like stop keeping score bad and try to hit the ball, like loose 7 balls bad.......and shot 72 just a few weeks ago. So there I stand, starting to climb the pity bus for a non-stop trip! Thinking "I've spent all these months, I KNOW I have this added speed, and getting my @$$ kicked by my buddy. We start paying attention to divots, and alignment at address.............I found myself a new habit (somehow) setting up closed and aligned out to right field!
Bought some nylon rope, used 4 tees, made two alignment aids and off to the range and now I think I'm already on the mend. We called my awful outing last week "back to basics day."
You'll get there don't fret. We've all played PLENTY if s*** golf WELLLLLLLLL before superspeed I'm sure, I'm sure we'll play more too
Amen brother. Thank you!
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Thanks RevKev.
After posting, I reread a dozen pages or so of the thread to remind myself that gains, plateaus, and losses are all to be expected.
I also need to make time to practice. I’m spending time on over speed training, it seems like I need to figure out a way to overcome the time issues and add balance to the off course work.
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I’m now in the middle of week five and my speeds are dropping:
Green
Blue
Red
Right
Left
Right
Left
Right
Left
Week 1
130
123
120
119
120
111
Week 2
128
122
115
114
113
111
Week 3
123
121
119
112
110
109
Week 4
118
114
112
105
110
103
So far in week five, my speeds are down even more. I understand this is somewhat expected, but it is puzzling. My body feels a little stronger and more flexible, but just not able to get the moves correct to generate more speed.
On the course I’ve had quite a bit of difficulty. I haven’t done any practicing between rounds, so the only swings I’m taking between rounds are super speed swings. I’m not hitting fairways and the hooks are showing up in my irons too. I would love to get to the range during the week, but family and work time constraints so far have made that impossible.
I have seen some improved distances - on our longest par fours I’ll be hitting PW-9 in, but at the end of the round I’ll have 2 birdies and 4 lost balls.
Im going to stick with it and try to get some practice in, maybe have a brief lesson to see if there’s some swing duct tape that can get me going again.
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1 hour ago, jacustomgolf said:
Did anyone experience issues with their golf swing while using these? I am about 3 weeks in and have developed a major swing issue and I am not sure if it is from this or the fact that I just do not practice any more.
Yes for me, as described above. I think I need to make sure I get some range time in to make sure I can keep the club (particularly driver) swing a good golf swing.
- sirchunksalot and JAGolfore
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Thank you RevKev. I think I will reach out to them, it can only help. I will have to figure out how to differentiate and focus on fast as opposed to hard. I don’t want to think about mechanics on the course (of course :-)).
It’s good to hear you describe the improvement in your iron striking. One of the things I’ve noticed is that my iron ball striking has improved quite a bit. Really crisp, centered, squared up. Stock distances are now former max distances.
- cnosil, sirchunksalot, revkev and 1 other
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3 minutes ago, Trial&Error said:
Don't get discouraged. While they (superspeed) do have some rough correlations of training numbers versus swing speed, please remember: you are your own best test subject. All you can do is stick to it, log the training numbers, and continue to test your Driver SS every few weeks or months and look for YOUR patterns. That's what I did . I found as I logged training versus my driver SS, I could see my own patterns emerging. Past that, I know not
Thanks for the kind words.
I believe that the training works based upon the evidence from this thread, its adoption on tour, and the endorsement from the pros at my club. I think I need to keep up with swing practice as diligently as I am following the protocol to gel it all together.
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Maybe there is no correlation between the training and actual driver swing, maybe there is. I certainly hope that I can get back on track.
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2/3’s of the way through week three now. So far no bumps in max speeds in training.
I had a range session last night to try to work through the driving trouble I had on Saturday. I warmed up, went to the short game area and had a good session. Moved on to the range and was really pleased with the mid irons. Crisp strikes, on target, very consistent. When I took out the 3w and driver, I had all sorts of difficulties executing a swing. I kept swinging as though I was trying to knock the cover off the ball with the consequent effect that I was off balance with poor tempo and shots going everywhere but down the range. It took me about an hour to regain some control and actually swing, not HIT! KILL! the ball.
I feared I might be susceptible to this sort of thing, my teachers have always worked hard to get me out of hitting mode and into swinging mode. Has anyone else struggled with this? Anyway, I do find it curious that my iron striking has improved while I’ve gone into hit mode with the driver.
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I’ve got two weeks of results to post. The first day of week one, I measured my driver speed on the radar prior to starting the protocol. Measured speed was 103.
Green
Blue
Red
Right
Left
Right
Left
Right
Left
Week 1
130
123
120
119
120
111
Week 2
128
122
115
114
113
111
Following the 3rd session of week one, I tested my driver again and reached 111. Week two I did sessions 1 & 2 on Monday & Tuesday, skipped session 3 and driver test.
The 130 entry in week 1 was recorded in session 1. Didn’t come close in session 2, hit 123 in session 3.
Is the gap between green & red max similar to what others have seen?
I played a match on Thursday, followed by a scramble. Won the match and the scramble (yay). I drove the ball quite well most of the day until late in the day when I began missing left. I felt I was on my back foot and couldn’t snap out of it.
I played Saturday and it was a continuation of the hooks. On my back foot, poor tempo, ugh. I hit two fairways the whole day, and they were grounders that made it through the teeing area. I obviously didn’t score well, but my irons, wedges and putter were working, so I posted a high/average round. Actually struck my irons quite well. Weird.
- sirchunksalot, edingc, joen and 3 others
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I have a few weeks to improvise something to kneel on. I’ll post my first two weeks results when I do the last session in a couple of days. I’ll be playing Thursday and Saturday and I’m really hoping that the ball striking remains steady.
- GolfSpy BOS, MattF and sirchunksalot
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It is the price that’s galling. $50 for a styrofoam rectangle is a pretty bold ask.
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43 minutes ago, sirchunksalot said:
I didn't try any sort of knee pads, but I did pick up a kneeling pad at Lowe's early in the process. I think I paid $10 for it and it's definitely better than just placing my knees on the ground.@cnosil you're definitely a tougher man than I am.
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Thanks. The mind is willing but my knees are weak!
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22 minutes ago, joen said:
Welcome aboard! You will be pleased.
I have real world results today. Dogleg left hole with a bunker on the left hand side with a 230 yard carry and the ball will trundle further down the hill towards the green. Go to the right and the ball just runs off into the rough unless you have a good slinging draw going on! I have NEVER carried this bunker in 20 years of playing this golf course....until today!
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