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Not sure if anyone else has had this issue or it might just be me but last two times I've gone to take the hoodie off I can hear stitches popping. I feel like it's partially due to my oversized head but it's happened more then once so I found it an interesting issue. I've seen no damage though.
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Probably going driver regardless of tee. Carry about 235 so unless its playing crazy firm and fast I would expect it to go about 250. Gives me about 195 in from the tips. This is where pin placement is the big thing.
I fade the ball so a front right pin would be a no go because right of that pin looks pretty dead. A front left pin my miss would be short in order to give me green to work with or take the right side of the green. Looks like a ridge separates the back portion of the green so an aggressive play there seems warranted because I don't want a difficult long breaking putt.
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Wore the hoodie all day today and did a small range session with it. One thing I noticed was I had to keep adjusting it after I would swing or bend over to put my tee in the ground. It gets bunched up or pulls over whenever I do those movements.
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Couple of updates. Played a round in the polo the other day. At no point did I notice anything uncomfortable and was impressed how long it remained tucked. Only had to retuck it once. Washed it and something must have been sitting on it because it came out stained with orangish streaks. I preceeded to throw it right back in and second time around no issue. Nothing else in the laundry was effected so I have no idea what happened. Also washed the sweatshirt and boy does that thing get heavy when wet. Made me think that it would not be a great option on a day with a surprise rain storm but unless you're playing tournament golf I don't envision many people will hoof out a rain soaked round that has temperatures that require a hoodie
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Alright here's a weird one for you the hood is overlapping at the clasp which leads to it being rather tight fitting. What's strange is because of the stretch in the fabric it can cover a head with a hat as well.
But if you look at the photo it is clearly stretching to cover based off whenever I do not have a hat.
Certainly nice to have that ability but i do not imagine swinging with my hood up and a hat one would be comfortable.
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12 hours ago, Lacassem said:
Testers, what are some comparable brands that you enjoy and fit you best?
are these comparable to any brands you currently have?
That's a great but tough question. My first thought jumps to Rhoback, but it has nothing similar to Rhoback haha. I think it was just a comfortable wear which is why I say that. It has a smaller softer collar then Rhoback. Collar reminds me more of Nike or Under Armour, but a little more pinched. The fit is more like a Bad Birdie because it's more fit to my body but has plenty of stretch. The sizing isn't like Bad Birdie though. I have a large in both and I feel RG is much more roomy. Honestly after one full day wear it has a lot of little pieces from lots which I think is a great sign. Washing it today so will be interested to see what happens after a wash.
13 hours ago, No3PuttLaLa said:Wore the polo today for work. Super comfy and lightweight, but could use some length to it as it becomes a belly shirt when you raise your arms.
Did you have it tucked in? I wore mine the other day and it stayed mostly tucked even after I had about 50 swings at the range.
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Wore the polo the other day and it has nice cuts. Honestly was worried first time I held it up looked a little small but has great stretch. Have an early tee time tomorrow so will see about the sweatshirt
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First off big thanks to MyGolfSpy and RealGolfers.co for this opportunity. I have seen a lot of start up golf apparel companies in the past 10 years and am curious to see them grow. I like there simple small offering being a start up. To me that shows a attention to detail that some companies do not heed.
My name is Thomas and I am from Maryland. I normally play late into November depending on the weather, I also wear polos every day. I am often a 1/4 zip wearer because I like the stretch most 1/4 zips give and they're comfortable to roll the sleeves up slightly. I am an absolute polo fanatic! Someone asked me recently how many polos I own and I said I could wear a polo a day for 3 to 4 months and not repeat. (Yes I know that's bad I am the same way with hats, maybe worse).
I like floral print, firm celebrator of Aloha Fridays. Recently ive been on a clean cut kick where I like the matching hat/polo combo. Personally my favorite polo brand right now is Rhoback though I'm also a devote Nike fan and Under Armours polos have been great recently.
I am relatively tall (6'2) and until recently have had a slimmer build (thank you fatherhood haha). For polos I wear a large because I don't like baggy polos. For anyone who has Bad Birdie polos they normally run smaller and I stick to large with them. I am an always tucked polo person as well. For sweatshirts I normally go XL, my arms and torso are a little longer so I tend to size up.
First thing I'll be looking for is stretch, I think that is essential to a polo or sweatshirt built for golfers. Not only for the movement factor but the comfort. Next is the fit itself, don't want sleeves too long or shoulders/midsection too wide. The final piece will be the quality over time. I love the idea of a price friendly apparel company in the golf landscape. Most polos I see go for $50-70 with the high ends like Peter Millar going for $100. However if the polo doesn't hold up over wears and washes then the price doesn't matter because it won't last long enough.
First Impressions (8 out of 10)
Through out this review we will talk about these as two different subjects, the polo and the hoodie. For the polo straight out of the package it had a nice feel, seemed to be softer then your average polyester polo. According to there website it was a 90-10 polyester-spandex blend so I do not know where the extra level of softness really comes from or if it is just in my mind. The build of the polo was great, nice clean collar, button placket was a little firm. Just had a very crisp look to it, some polos look like you are dressing down, this is not one of those polos. The design on the polo was ok, I am a fan of the multi-print polos and the stick figures were different and cool. After looking at there website I would have preferred there sold out blue polo with white collar. I cannot seem to figure out what there logo is, they have the RG, the RealGolfers and a jester hat. I like the jester hat the most but not sure about how it fits with there brand. On the website the polos are priced at $60.
The hoodie was the same, straight out of the package had a superb feel, it was very soft. It is a 63-30-7 rayon-polyester-spandex blend according to there website. Very thick cuffs on the wrist and waistband with a couple of stripes. Has the visible stitching on the shoulders which I thought looked nice. Had RealGolfers written down the sleeve in scrip, I did not like this, I felt it didn't match the esthetic. The hood was pinched at the front by the collar to give it an overlapping look and it had zippered pockets on the sides. The pale green color of the hoodie was muted enough where it paired nicely with the white, I thought the black stripes were a little to off the look to be added. On the website the hoodies are priced at $90.
Aesthetics (7 out of 10)
Here is where I kept questioning what route they were trying to achieve with there design. The design on the polos are much more modern with the multi-stick figure characters all over. It reminded me of what you would see out of a lot of companies currently like Rhoback or Barstool with many repeated designs. However when look at the physical design of the polo it matched closer to a Nike or Under Armour polo, cleaner and sharper with tighter fits. The design of the hoodies was even more confusing with its layout. There were clear attempts at making it fitted with the larger cuffs on the wrists and waist but then the body of it was larger. It had nice weight to it where you would believe it would keep you warm in cooler weather. However I found after one wash it gets really heavy when wet so it would not be a good item for a rainy day. The design of the hoodie was one that would be considered to be nicer where it could be seen to be worn by older and younger, aside from the RealGolfers down the arm that design to me is more for a younger crowd. I have many different hoodies from lots of brands and I do not think it can be compared to any in particular, it is definitely a stand alone for hoodies.
Fit & Comfort (17 out of 20)
Both are extremely comfortable when wearing lesiurely. The polo was a bit of a tighter fit, which I prefer, however at no point was I feeling constricted or uncomfortable with any of my daily living. I could move in many directions, reach up on shelves or bend down to pick something up and never really felt like I was going to become untucked. I have also added some beginning of winter weight so am a little thicker then I was over the summer and it did not make it overly uncomfortable. For the polo I would give the fit and comfort a 9.5 out of 10. The only reason I would take a half a point away is because after 4 washes it does seem to have gotten a little smaller but due to the stretch the fit is still fine. The hoodie is incredibly comfortable in terms of material. My 1 year old will just lay his head down on my chest whenever I am wearing it because of how soft it is. I am not a huge fan of the pinched hoodie, I felt like it kept getting tangled or would move and I would have to adjust it. I really did not like the cuffs on the wrist, I like rolling my sleeves up a little and they were just uncomfortable to have sitting on my forearms, I think it was more the material then the elastic. I did not notice any difference when it came to the washes except maybe the torso length became a little shorter. Whenever the pockets were open it would also make the hoodie sit strangely, I felt like it made me look a little rounder around the middle then I actually am. For the hoodie I wold give the fit and comfort a 7.5 out of 10. I removed points for the cuffs and the hood.
On-Course (16 out of 20)
These are flat out great golf polos for me! I had no problems out on the course with them. Never and punching or pulling, really never even recognized that it was there which I think is the biggest compliment for a polo. I think during the 250 shot I hit while wearing the polo I had to tuck it back in maybe twice. As you can see from the video even when I would stretch my hands up above my head there would be just slight pulling but it would not change the shape of the polo. I could not ask anything more from this polo except helping me to make more putts so I give it a 10 out of 10.
The hoodie was great at keeping me warm and the material was comfortable, everything else did not work for me. I could not wear the sleeves down because the cuffs were so thick I could "feel" them whenever I was gripping my club. Whenever I rolled the sleeves up they were uncomfortable sitting on my forearms. During practice sessions I was also constantly rolling the sleeves up because they would fall down during the swing. I also felt like after every swing wearing the hoodie I had to not only adjust the body but also adjust the hood. Overall I just never felt comfortable when hitting golf balls while wearing the hoodie so I give it a 6 out of 10.
The Good, the bad, the inbetween (17 out of 20)
The Good: This polo is a top notch wear, they certainly will have a place in the current golf polo market place. The hoodie fabric is amazing, probably one of the softest clothing pieces I own and is super nice to the touch.
The Bad: The "build" of the hoodie just does not work for me I think. Cuffs are too bulky, the fit does not match that of the polo, pockets are not easily accessible and I do not like the hood.
The Inbetween: Overall aesthetic or style seems to be inbetween at the moment. Are they modern or are they traditional, is it eye catching or is it clean? Personally I think there is plenty of eye catching on the market and a well made brand with clean make up to me would be a great addition.
Play it or Trade it? (15 out of 20)
Polo is a no brainer for being a player. Easily can match it with any type of outfit and is incredibly comfortable when wearing. The hoodie would probably only work as a layer under a jacket. Has the ability to keep you warm but the jacket over the top would hopefully keep you from having to adjust after every shot.
Conclusion
"Our mission - Make the best polos in the world affordable. And make birdies."
They make great polos that much can be said! There price point is $60, which makes them more expensive then some ($40+ Under Armour) and a lot less expensive then others ($90+ Rhoback). Unfortunately this polo will not help you make any more birdies but you will at least be comfortable and look good making pars.
Final Score (80 out of 100)
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Date 08/16/2023 Course Name Maple Run Gross Score 84 Course Handicap 9 Gross Strokes over/under par 12 Net Score to Par 3 Net Score 75 Net Birdies or better 7 Longest Drive 271 Longest drive "could" have been 323 but I cut the corner on a dog leg so don't really think that should count haha. Driver had a gasp or two of being alive but disappeared. Irons were awful. Putter was hot with book end front 9 1-putts of 24 and 15 feer respectively. Then preceeded to cool off hard to the tune of 3-2-3-2-3. Really frustrated with my game right now. Was only a month ago I was 10 strokes less.
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I'm playing a ping PLD. Blacked out no aim aid. I love this thing!
- tdroma98, sirchunksalot and BallsLeon
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Was not playing in it but was actually coaching in it. 20 to 30 mph winds. Temperatures at a high of 40 degrees. Precipitation mix of snow, freezing rain. Easily one of most uncomfortable sporting experiences I've ever had and for reference working football game back in college had the water freeze in the coolers haha
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Incredible idea! Seems like it is going to be a lot of work on the back end so thank you for all the hard work!
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Date 08/11/2023 Course Name Maple Run Gross Score 85 Course Handicap 9 Gross Strokes over/under par 13 Net Score to Par 4 Net Score 76 Net Birdies or better 5 Longest Drive 294 Two holes could been wondered if I had any idea what I was doing. Driver was awful again other then the second hole of the day. Fortunately the 3 wood did not follow its brother and I was able to use that successfully. Need to hit the lab at some point because this is frustrating
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Each shot is an individual opportunity to execute what you want. Your score is a compilation of those shots. Don't shoot for a score instead try to execute as many good shots as you can and add it all up at the end.
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4 holes to go! One of which is a par 5 however it's the opening hole so often difficult to be firing at that point. Most difficult has been #10 for me, becoming a bugga boo hole because of a tight tee shot. Haven't hit par here in about a month.
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Date 08/05/2023 Course Name Maple Run Gross Score 80 Course Handicap 9 Gross Strokes over/under par 8 Net Score to Par -1 Net Score 71 Net Birdies or better 4 Longest Drive 273 Weird round today compared to recent rounds. Driver went awry on one hole but was overall fine. Chipping was good but fuller wedges I struggled with distance control. Didn’t make a putt under 5 feet, except for a 15 footer that was my second putt after I blasted it past. Finally had a round without anything worse than a bogey, however, first round without a birdie in a while. Had ample opportunities to birdie but flat stick just wasn’t there today.
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Date 07/28/2023 Course Name Maple Run Gross Score 77 Course Handicap 10 Gross Strokes over/under par 5 Net Score to Par -5 Net Score 67 Net Birdies or better 9 Longest Drive 292 Driver was back for 4 of the 8 holes I used it on. Still so frustrating. Also saw a jump in my wedge distances which led to some difficulty with control. It was close to 90 degrees so I think the ball was just jumping. Putter was inconsistent, a 3-jack from 15 ft and a made putt of 21 ft.
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I do not mind music, with a reasonable volume on a golf course. I do not choose music on a golf course though.
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Date 07/20/2023 Course Name Maple Run Gross Score 80 Course Handicap 9 Gross Strokes over/under par 8 Net Score to Par -1 Net Score 71 Net Birdies or better 7 Longest Drive 254 Special Event Rough day with the driver again. Also took me about 7 holes to get the flat stick going which with the driver being down really hurt. Did chip in on 4 which makes the struggles with the putter easier
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On 5/30/2023 at 6:40 AM, tchat07 said:
The Review - June 14th 2023
Craftsman Golf Headcovers - Official MGS Forum Review by tchat07
Intro
First, I would like to thank MGS and Craftsman Golf for this opportunity. This is such a unique test I am excited to participate and see if I can help those in the market for new head covers. I golf weekly in season being from May to September, I work in education so once school starts, I become very busy. Play most of my golf in Maryland, I have been seriously golfing for 10 years and like to think I am pretty engaged in the golf landscape. When it comes to head covers in my bag, I like to have custom ones from companies I support or ones with cool designs that I like. I am not a sock or animal head cover owner, mostly like the “boxing glove” style head covers for their fit and normally looks very nice in a bag. I take good care of my head covers, not a toss them on the ground during a shot type.
I think the biggest test for any head cover is durability. Durability of shape, can it maintain its elasticity after being removed multiple times. Durability of design, do the stitches remain intact, does it fade from being outside. I will be getting a set that comes with a driver, wood and hybrid. To test this product, I am going to be aggressive with the driver since it will be used the most. I am going to drop it, throw it, spike it (we all know those golfers who in a fit after a 3 putt take it out on their poor head cover). The wood head cover I am going to expose to the elements, leave it in my car after rounds, toss it in the back of the cart during rounds, let it get wet, bake in the sun etc. Finally with the hybrid head cover I am going to treat it as normal.
Below is a picture of the most recent head covers I have had. The driver head cover is from Sunfish Sales. This is no longer in the bag because I got a new Callaway Driver and the head cover it came with is clean with nice stitching. The next is what I currently use on my 3-wood it is from Oahu Golf Apparel and I have had it for years. The blue head cover is my second favorite, the design from Almigos is top notch with the faux blue alligator skin. Finally, is my favorite my putter head cover from Oak and Anchor, which no longer seems to exist, so this is probably a collector's item now! The knock off Louis Vuitton look is solid but the best part is on the logo in the middle it says, “Go Low, Stay Fly”, what an awesome motto to have on your putter head cover.
I have open spots on my driver and my hybrid right now for head covers. To stay in the bag, it will need to maintain its shape well and maintain its look, I am gentle with my head covers so there is no reason it should not last a very long time but that’ll be up to the craftsmanship (pun intended). I had not heard of Craftsman Golf before, but I have a decent background understanding of what to expect out of a good head cover.
First Impressions (14 out of 20)
The first thing we have to talk about is not the product but the website design. You get on to Craftsman Golf and are instantly hit with one of those add your email spin the wheel get money off pop ups. The impression I get from the website is it is very basic but certainly nothing on the opening page grabs my attention. You scroll through their collection, and it remains basic designs; “birdies”, USA, bombs and clovers. Nothing did I really love but I thought the clovers looked clean so I went with them.
Shipping came through in the expected amount of time. Packaging was simple if a little overdone with each head cover been double wrapped in plastic. Looking at the head covers they are very clean looking with the contrasting white background and green clovers. Interesting design of with three attaches clovers and three embroidered clovers. I personally prefer the embroidered clovers; I think they have a cleaner look and seem like they would take on less damage over time. They also are all the same color, whereas the attached clovers differ slightly in color. The driver, wood and hybrid covers are all based off the same template so all look exactly the same. This is something I am not a fan of, I like the personality you apply with your head covers and to have 3 that are exactly the same takes a little away from it.
Will say this seems to fit with the website design and available cover designs, does not seem to be a lot of creativity and seems to be more about minimization of cost. I will add though this seems to allow for a decrease in price with all their head covers being reasonably priced in the $30-40 range.
Aesthetics (20 out of 30)
As mentioned before I like the contrast with the white leather head cover, grey felt interior, and solid green clovers. The head covers all have held up nicely to the trials I have put them through. I have been rough with the driver head cover and the only difference since I started using it has been it has become slightly looser making it a little easier to get on and off the driver. The wood head cover I have gone to extremes to see if I could get the green to fade or cause some type of damage. I have left it outside at the beach, I have soaked it and left it in a hot car, I even got it dirty and tested how easily it was to clean the smudge. The pictures can be found below. First is the smudge, second is after being cleaned with just water and third is after using dish soap. It has passed all tests except for one which I will talk about later in my review. Finally the hybrid cover I treated as I do most head covers with care. Same as well prior it has not shown much wear other then with the one test I spoke of earlier.
On close inspection there are a couple errors when it comes to the stitching. On one embroidered clover on the driver the stem and clover border were much closer than you see on all other embroidered clovers. On the wood head cover there is a clear miss in the stitching border of one of the attached clovers. Finally on the driver head cover one of the border stitching and the attached clover do not line up as well as all the others do. The hybrid head cover seemed to have the best quality, which was very interesting considering it is the smallest of the batch and you would think it would the most difficult to get the details cleanest.
The Good, the bad, the inbetween (22 out of 30)
This is a very unique type of test, you aren’t really gathering any data or able to see any change to your game it is all subjective. For this very reason I felt it necessary to come up with some type of “test” that could differentiate the quality of this head cover from others, in comes the “swing test”. I am sure many have done this before maybe to warm up but the swing test is when you swing your club with the head cover still attached. For this test I had to include my previous head covers as a baseline, they have a few years in them so it should show if the Craftsman stretch quickly.
First we will begin with the bad, the hybrid head cover slips off very easily after an its brief time of use. I actually launched it backwards on my back swing and all of these swings are at 50% so its not like I was going quickly. This compared poorly to my TaylorMade head cover that has been in the bag for about a year, will add the caveat that the TM has the high sock design at the bottom of the leather portion so a little more grab. I found this concerning because as you go through a round and the clubs are bouncing around in your bag I could see the ease of this head cover coming off to lead it to pop off during your round. To me the worst type of head cover is a lost one so that certainly would be less then ideal. Next came the wood cover, compared to my own that has been in the bag for about 3 years. This I was actually surprised with because my other head cover feels a snugger but both matched on the swing test and came off during the down swing. Finally was the driver cover and weirdly enough this performed great! I was able to do a full 2 swings without it coming off which out performed the 5 year old head cover I previously had on my driver.
Play it or Trade it? (14 out of 20)
Well at the beginning I said that there were positions open in my bag and I will be adding a head cover to my bag, however, it will only be one of the three. The driver cover will be joining the bag, it performed well in the swing test and I truly do like the compliment of the white cover and green clovers within my bag. The hybrid cover will not be joining the bag because of fear of losing it due to the looseness of fit after only a short time. The fit of the wood cover I was comfortable with but as I mentioned earlier it is an exact replica of the other two. It is a nice design but not so nice that I feel the need to have two of the same in my bag and I appreciate uniqueness of head covers so this would not fit what I am looking for in a head cover. Once again I will mention as I did earlier that the pricing for these head covers is reasonable and I feel matches the others in the market that support the $40 head cover market. These to me are a great gift for a golfer who is just finding there way into golf and might not have head covers or have older ones so a great cost affect way to spice up the bag.
Conclusion
Craftsman Golf provided me with a nice set of head covers at a reasonable price. There offerings are ones you have seen elsewhere and the head cover seems to be made off the same template so do not go in looking for something unique. There were minor flaws in the craftsmanship but I think that seems to correlate with the template design, once again do not go in imagining you are getting a 1-of-1 production. Over the brief time I had them they held up nicely and did not fade or have major problems cosmetically. There was a change in the fit on the clubs, not as snug as when I first received them, so it does take into question whether these end up in the lost and found at a course. Overall I think this would be a good head cover for a reasonable price for those who are not cover snobs (I am one).
Final Score (70 out of 100)
Final review has been posted!
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8 hours ago, Big moose said:
Yes those are probably the ones that I use more, that could be why that is happening.
Seems like it would be the most reasonable explanation plus the heat of being in a car.
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Unfortunately have been down and out with sickness for past two weeks. Sweatshirt has come I'm handy wearing around the house though!