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She's probably slept there before .

Damn, I spoke too soon. Feeling bad for him and hope he rebounds to stay in the mix.

This is a great final pairing. Really torn now whether I want HV3 to get his first win or Koepka making history. And talk about fast pace of play... these two flat move.

This whole thing about OEM's not being able to build to a given set of specs is crazy. So I should take pause in dropping something north of $1100 for a set of G410's ordered to my fitting specifications?

This statement is a bit concerning to me - given I'm on the verge of placing an order for G410 irons!! My fitter has all the pertinent data from which I presume two things will happen. First that he orders them from PING with those specs. Second that PING builds them to those specs. From yours and others comments, is this a unrealistic expectation? If so, that's ridiculous. Why even bother getting fitted if one cannot depend on a company to build them to a given set of specifications.

That's not too bad really. Closest one for me is SLC... won't my niece be surprised when Uncle Bill shows up .

I want the guy in the Dick's Sporting Goods commercial to do an iron fitting for me. Seriously, I wonder if he's the real deal or an actor?

Agree. Without seeing ball flight data it's impossible to offer an opinion.

Glad to hear the new irons are working well. Really like the pictures; they are nice looking. I experienced the same thing at a recent fitting where we increased my shaft length and it lowered my ball speed a little, but added distance as well as moved my strike more towards center. What was the cost of of your fitting?

Nice write up, thanks for sharing. How much of the $5300 was just the fitting portion?

It sounds like I need to - they get lots of great kudo's. In fact, I posed this same question to my fitter and he suggested adding one or more of these in lieu of the G410 wedges. Not having been a wedge centric player all these years, this is new territory for me.

My Stage 2 Review is complete.

No. We tested the graphite (PING CB), but actually ended up back with steel - changing from the PX 5.5 LZ to the AWT 2.0 in the +1 length. These matched well with the PE2 swing weight which is D2.

This game continues to confuse the hell out of me. https://golf-info-guide.com/golf-tips/the-golf-swing/what-is-a-compact-golf-swing/ https://www.golfclubguru.com/the-shortest-backswings-on-tour/

Having just seen myself in a swing video, I amazed just how short my backswing is. I've never had a super deep rotation but mine is shorter than I thought (looks like @GB13putting ) This has to be costing me some distance and I want to try and get some back. Adding some pause would be nice as well, but first things first. I'm going to start some exercises in hopes of gaining increased flexibility leading to more rotation/backswing. Here's one that looks pretty good. Do any of you use another routine? https://www.agedefyinggolf.com/effective-golf-stretch-improve-backswing-turn/

BK must feel like he's playing in the kid's drive-pitch-putt contest . What a show.

Free live stream working good. Fun watching the Koepka/Speith pairing - has a match play feel to it. Speith playing second fiddle on the opening hole with a 315 yard drive . Come on Jordan, slay Goliath!

Thanks. It's been an interesting journey and fun sharing with the forum. Regarding my wedges (or more like lack thereof), I typically use my PW at near full swing at ~80 yards and throttle as needed into about 40 yards. From there in, unless I need to flight a trap, tree, shrubs, etc., I play a bump and run with my 8i. As you know we've had plenty of threads and discussion around wedges - many bagging 3 or more. It seems our lower handicappers tend to use multiple wedges. Not sure I need/want all 4 options available, but think 2, maybe 3 would give me a solid combination to perhaps compliment (or replace) the bump and run. Here's where I'm hoping some of our "Wedge Play SME's" can help.

Well fellow spies, I'm on the verge of submitting an order for a new set of irons (but need some final advice, please read on). Yes, it's true, the earth stopped spinning momentarily and the birds fell silent. After a years worth of research, input from fellow forum members, and 3 iron fittings, my beloved PingEye 2's will soon be sitting idle. Last year in my "Former PE2 Players" thread, I took the first step along this perilous road called "Shiny Metal". That is to say I had, at that time, recently attended a PING Demo and tested the G400's. Having just upgraded from my 90's circa driver and seeing the big shift in driving performance, I succumbed to the idea that similar results could be achieved by upgrading from my 80's circa irons. But, this is where it became a real challenge. There are so many products out there - all promising to be the best golf iron on the market. While the numbers from the G400 demo were positive they, unlike what I experienced with the change in driver, were not dramatic. Initially I kept telling myself that the PE2's are good enough. I hit them well, have distances pretty well dialed, and I'm just chasing hyped marketing. But something kept nagging at me. As much as the frugal, stubborn German-Irish part of me resisted, shiny metal objects kept beckoning . So, last May I sought the help of a PGA club fitter in Bozeman, MT. I shared the details of that fitting in the aforementioned thread. I left that fitting thinking the G400's or Mizuno's were going to get the nod...but time went by, I continued good play with my PE2's and that thinking ebbed away. Then another MGS thread and review would come up, rekindling that nagging question. I spent much of the back half of 2018 and most of this year reading and researching golf irons. Unfortunately, Yuma, AZ does not have any good golf shops and our home here in MT - well, let's just say if fly rods and golf irons were one in the same, I'd be the envy of the golfing community. There were a handful of irons I wanted to test, but they were not readily available. Sure Phoenix and Missoula are only 3 hours drive, but that's still a long day and not real convenient. As part of my stage 2 review of the G410 Plus driver, I had planned to get some comparison data done at my fitter in Bozeman. He had just picked up the KZG line and I had only added confusion to my search for new irons by having range tested the Callaway Apex, PING's i500, i210, G410, and Titleist AP1 while in Yuma. So, I opted to do another iron fitting yesterday and see what panned out. Based on my winters testing, I was leaning towards the G410's. These hit the best/most consistent; so following another data baseline using my PE2 7i, we moved to the G410. I was picking up a club+ worth of carry distance with the Project X 5.5 LZ shaft we had matched with the G400's from last year. What Woody was seeing however is that my contact area tended to be in the toe area. We switched to Pings CB graphite shaft (told him I was wondering about a non-steel option) and did see a slight increase in swing speed, but no shift in contact area. We then changed to a +1 length (my PE2's are +1/2) and that did move the strike zone towards center - and increased carry in the neighborhood of 2 clubs! Dispersion was roughly the same as my PE2's and ball flight the slight left to right fade. I then tried the KZG LDI's and XCB's. KZG makes their own brand of shafts and I tried those with both steel and graphite. Neither really outperformed the G410's. Might others that I was simply unable to test been even better (Srixon Z585,Wilson D7's, etc.)? Perhaps, but at some point you just have to make a decision - and that decision is a brand new set of PING G410's. My only question now, and one that I'm hoping you guys can help with, is whether to get the PW, UW, SW, and LW or ?? I've only had/played the PE2 PW and have my Dad's old SW which I'm unsure of specs. Might a switch to the power loft in some or all of the wedges be an option? Here is a comparison of the PE2 lofts with the G410 (in standard loft) Iron Ping Eye 2 G410 (std. loft) G410 (power loft) 4 25.0 20.5 19.0 5 28.5 23.5 22.0 6 32.0 26.5 25.0 7 36.0 30.0 28.5 8 40.0 34.5 32.5 9 45.0 39.5 37.5 PW 50.5 44.5 42.5 UW n/a 49.5 47.5 SW 57.5 54.0 52.5 LW 61.0 58.0 58.0

Yesterday was my 3rd...and you know the old saying... . Beans will be spilled in forthcoming thread, but suffice to say that one club kept rising to the top amongst the nearly two hands worth of irons I tested. At some point you just make a decision.

Talk about raising ones game to another level... wow! Nice seeing Speith in the mix. As much as I'd like BK to do the "are you kidding me" again, I like another Grand Slammer. Also hoping HV3, Fowler, and Phil the Thrill make a run at the leader.

Good recap. I'd like to add one to the list: More PGA Main Tour courses should model BPB. It's nice seeing them have to manage the game like we do. Layup on par 4's... oh, the horror of it all! P.S. I still think Woods is playing the rope-a-dope gig.

Is it? Listening to a handful of players being interviewed the past few days, when asked what they thought would be Sunday's winning score, most said single digit red numbers. Sounds like they know BPB is stingy - particularly with less than optimal weather/ conditions.

And a quick search now reveals (to me) what PXG stands for - Parsons Xtreme Golf. I'll need to look into their irons and see which if any would fit my game. Air Force guys should be able to play them, right?

Umm, that's what the torx-wrench is for .