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1 hour ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Due to an injury @tommc23 has had to withdraw from this testing opportunity meaning @MyWifesSwingCoach is now joining the crew for this test! We look forward to having him on this test and seeing the input he can provide.  

Thanks again for the opportunity and I want to wish @tommc23 a speedy and full recovery.

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8 minutes ago, Bluesman57 said:

Thank you!  I had the 40 day trial period that came with my new Ping driver  and I enjoyed the ton of data that Arccos supplied.   Unfortunately, mainly due to weather and schedule, this accounted for just 4 rounds.  And here in NW Indiana, that would be near zero rounds November-March.  I would definitely be interested in Arccos if they would offer a monthly access, rather than paying for months that I would never use.  That's what I told them when I canceled after the free trial.

In other words, good luck testers!

Meanwhile in Michigan...

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I just made a new thread about stats so this timing is pretty funny, I use shotscope right now and I would love to see how it compares with Arccos.

Good luck to all who enter! Thanks for the opportunity!

[Edel SMS Wedges]

4 hours ago, edingc said:

I also finally got my garage in order and am able to fulfill my goal of testing the different weight positions with my FlightScope Mevo+ radar unit and Titleist ProV1x RCT golf balls.

Starting last night and finishing this morning, I cycled through the three wedges with the heavy weight in all three positions. For the sake of time and swings, I split the testing up as follows:

• Full shots with the 50 degree wedge
• Three-quarter partial shots with the 54 degree wedge
• 40-yard pitches with the 58 degree wedge

My goal was to get three or four "good" strikes in each weight position. Unfortunately, my garage was 92 degrees yesterday evening and the iPhone I use for the Mevo+ overheated before I could finish my testing. My swings today were not quite as good as yesterday, which is sad because I was swinging quite well last night! The heel-weighted 54 degree wedges and the 58 degree pitches were all taken during the second session this morning when I just wasn't on my game.

Disclaimers aside, here's the goods. I'm sorry these are images as there is not a good way to post tabular data.

50 Degree Wedge - Full Swing

54 Degree Wedge - 3/4 Swing

58 Degree Wedge - 40-yard Pitch

Do the weights greatly influence the numbers? Sort of? Maybe? I would say with the weight in the toe (as I was fit for and having been playing) I tend to get the face less closed through impact in all three scenarios. That leads to more spin.

Consistency-wise, I did begin to adapt to all three positions relatively quickly but was most comfortable with the weight in the toe (no surprise there). As such my distance control appears to be better. There is a pronounced feel difference between the weight positions, and as we know feel can really influence club delivery.

I will make the observation that I was much more easily able to generate three quality shots with the weight in the toe. 

Last thought unrelated to numbers but relevant to the review. We mentioned Edel did not ship a tool to change the weights. The weights do not use the standard Torx/star bit that most drivers use and instead are a normal 4mm Allen/hex wrench. I initially used my driver tool (since it does fit), but nearly stripped out the head of one of the weights. I would definitely recommend the Allen wrench if you intend on swapping weight positions.

Awesome follow up Cody, can you comment on the 3 pitches using the 58* with the weights in the heel?

The dispursion was really tight and straight but the distance seemed to be the only issue.

How did those shots feel to you and would you change the weights for that wedge alone?

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5 minutes ago, mynerds said:

I've already sent my "like" spam,

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Congrats to all the testers! I cannot wait to hear about your experiences with the Precision Pro

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I have been wondering how much a rangefinder would help me so this opportunity would be perfect!

I would Love to test this against my ShotScope V2 watch to compare differences, ease of use, accuracy etc 

Good Luck to whoever is selected, Thank you MGS for the opportunity and I look forward to the reviews

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9 hours ago, sirchunksalot said:

Excellent job Cody! Your video editing and commentary are top notch and I enjoy seeing you put content out. The round using only the wedges was a wonderful idea and really shows how well they are working for you. 

@edingc Hey Cody, I have to say I have been a fan of Not a Scratch Golfer for a little while now and your video reminded me a lot of his content. You should really consider doing some more course vlog/commentary. I really enjoyed it. Maybe even some build videos etc too because I have been loving the Maltby wedges you built

[Edel SMS Wedges]

On 6/15/2022 at 7:27 PM, GrumpyGolf said:

Unboxing of the Edel SMS Wedges:

So I arrived home yesterday and this was by my front door:

Let the testing begin ... erm, gotta take care of some pending matters for the home life first. So, I set it inside the door until I can get time for it.

Ok, so I pick it up and the box looks heavier than it is, and includes a handle for easy carrying.  This is a well made box, stiff and the dents and dings, it looks like it withstood a lot of heavy jostling with no issues. So time to unpack.  Placing box on my workstation, I inspect it for any further damage, looks good so far:

Cutting the tape and opening the box, wasn't expecting the packaging interior that was presented:

Basically, three  pieces of foam and some butcher paper at the top of the handles. Expecting more - bubble wrap, plastic foam, plastic wrappers, just more - but actually pleasantly surprised by the lack of plastic in the box.  I am good with this.  Wedges and shafts seem content in their little safety zone.

Found some stickers in the box, very cool.

Now to get to the wedges.  First one out:

Look at how the sunlight just makes it shine. From hosel to toe, 2g, 8g, 10g.  The SEND stamping is to remind me to SEND the ball to the target not just hit the ball. The look of the SMS wedge is clean and almost looks like it is both retro and futuristic at the same time, almost steam punk.  The machine sole grinds are both aesthetically pleasing to me and remind me of grooves in a record that guide the needle around and produce music, hopefully these will be music to my ears.

The stamping of the Edel logo on the hosel is really cool and a better location in my opinion that on the sole of the club.  

Notice that I went with the black and silver ferrule rather than the Edel standard that includes red. Not a fan of the color.  Something about red and black together just doesn't sit well with me.

The club face looks really cool at setup. The size and the profile inspire confidence.

All in all, I am very pleased with the what I have seen with this unboxing, I already knew what I was getting from my time at the fitters, but it is still something else to see them made out just to your specs. Also am impressed that even with the grinds all being the same C-Grind, you can look at the three soles and tell immediately that the 54 degree wedge is the sand wedge because of the different grind profile even though it is still setup for my shallow swing. 

While truly not my first impression with Edel since my fitting actually covered that, I can say that these have reinforced the impression I had then. I have a follow-up session with the fitter coming up, followed by a couple of range sessions and then an actual round on the course over the next few days, so there will be plenty more to come.

Oh and in case you are wondering about if these have made it into my bag yet or not and if I have a preference for keeping them in working condition, here is something that I am sure, based on other threads will split this crowd ...

More thought below ... 

 

24 minutes ago, edingc said:

Edel SMS Wedges – Official MGS Forum Review by edingc

Unboxing - June 16, 2022

Warning: gratuitous number of photos ahead! These clubs are too pretty to not take a million photos.

I received my wedges last night. Edel placed my order on May 27, so from order to delivery it took about three weeks. The Nippon Modus shafts I was fit for ended up not being a problem.

@GrumpyGolf has already covered the packaging. The handle is a unique touch I haven’t experienced with other manufacturers. The wedges were securely packaged and arrived without incident. 

The clubs are gorgeous. There is not another way to describe them. The milling on the soles completes the very clean and modern look. The custom ferrules (which appear to be hand turned) are a very nice touch. They are something that sets the Edels apart from other products. The chrome finish glistens in the sun, while the face has a matte finish that should cause no issues with glare.

One of the things drawing my attention to the Edels is their shaping. It seems like a very classic wedge shape to me, and I love the slightly rounded leading edge. The grooves extend in a way that makes them seem almost like a full-face wedge.

I fit into Edel’s V grind for all three wedges. My hope is that the grind provides some forgiveness on softer turf. The leading edge inspires confidence I won’t dig behind the ball on a slight miss-hit. The leading edge raises only slightly when the face is opened. I don’t foresee an issue playing shots with a more open face if needed.

The clubs arrived as requested with grips shipped loose in the box and the weight in the toe. Like others, I do find it a little strange there is not a tool included to change the weights. Especially because the card that comes in the box outlines the process for fitting the weights to your swing (a process that requires a tool!).

I gripped them with my own grips. I have been using undersized Star Sidewinders on all my clubs. I do some custom taping underneath that adds one more wrap to my lower hand and ends up with a “standard” size grip.

After gripping, I checked the specs of each wedge against what I requested. The lengths were spot on standard. Swing weights were also very close. Kudos to Edel for the build quality.

I should be able to get out to the range with these soon, and they'll get their first on course time this weekend!
 

I think the mods need to categorize these pics as NSFW... Not Safe For Wallets 

[Edel SMS Wedges]

43 minutes ago, xOldBenKenobiX said:

I had my fitting this past Sunday at my local golftec and I got set up for both a 4 wedge for degrees difference, 48, 52, 56 and 60 degrees, as well as the 3 wedges 6 degree difference,  here is the 3 wedge set up we arrived at, and it is the one I am testing.

 

48° Grind: T-Grind Lie Angle: Standard (64°) Length: +.25" Shaft: KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 - R 115g Grip: Golf Pride Tour Velvet - Standard, two extra wraps of tape.

54° Grind: T-Grind Lie Angle: Standard (64°) Length: +.25" Shaft: KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 - R 115g Grip: Golf Pride Tour Velvet - Standard, two extra wraps of tape.

60° Grind: T-Grind Lie Angle: Standard (64°) Length: +.25" Shaft: KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 - R 115g Grip: Golf Pride Tour Velvet - Standard, two extra wraps of tape.

The weights are set to standard, but I am definitely interested on moving them around and seeing how they will affect my shot shapes.

The fitting it self was a great experience and I had a lot of fun, Randy at GolfTec was very detailed and helped me out with a lot of information, also I was the first ever person to get an Edel wedge fitting at their location, I guess I am the guinea pig.

As per the numbers, my current wedges have a very high spin rate, between 10 to 11k, whereas I should be between 6 and 8k. with the grind and shaft combination that  we settle at, those numbers were definitely optimized.

I loved the process and really enjoyed the fitting, I missed on taking a lot of pictures and did not get any videos of the experience.

At the end of the day, I think we arrived to the best set up for my game.

I can't wait to see your write up Elson! How will the 48* fit with your set PW?

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13 hours ago, GrumpyGolf said:

So today I went to Golf365 here in Boise to get fitted for the Edel wedges. 

I arrived a little bit early so that I would not be rushed when I got there.  This allowed me to stretch a little and check out the facilities before the fitting began.  Bill Moseley, who would be doing my fitting, was busy finishing up his previous appointment but welcomed me and told me to feel free to look around.

When you first walk in, Edel putter fitting and putting green.

Then we get to the meat of the club fitting section.

... AND then the part I am most interested in today ---

After Bill finished up with his previous appointment, we talked for about 10 minutes about a) how I became a MGS tester, b) what my current bag setup is, c) how I came to be where I am today, and d) what I can expect form the fitting.  A, B, and C can be found on any of my other posts so I won't bore you with them.  D however was key to today's entire process.  He described how Edel came up with their concept of the weighted clubs and applying them to wedges and what the benefits for the everyday golfer would be.  He explained how he would work with me to find the best arrangement of wedge grind, weight dispersion, and shaft attributes to best suit my current swing and not what I thought it was before.  He even worked with my grip a little prior to swinging to show how with my new elbow I can make just minor adjustments to my grip to help clear up some of my draw tendencies I currently have. 

Based on my feedback to him from his questions and his feedback to me based on my current game, he suggested we try a T Grind wedge 58* with KBS Tour 110 shaft and 2g/10g/2g (heel/middle/toe) weight setup on the wedge to start and establish a baseline.  I hit a few and the setup did not feel right for me and most of my shots were left and just not feeling right (I really don't know how else to explain that other than it felt like club head was behind the shaft and it was like when I expected contact with the ball there was a slight delay).  He then asked me one of the most important questions I have ever been asked with regards to my swing that no one has ever asked me, "Are you trying to hit the ball or are you swinging for the target?"  I responded, I am hitting the ball.  Now I know this may be common knowledge for most of the users on MGS but for me it was eye opening moment. More to come on this later (in a different thread), but for now I will say I quit trying to hit the ball and instead tried to send the ball to the target.  My swing improved but the ball was still not going to the target.

This is where the weights, a longer shaft, and a different grind came into play.  He fitted me with a KBS Tour 120 with +1 length shaft, switched the weights to a 2g/2g/10g setup, changed the grind to a C -grind, and told me to give it a go.  (I can say I was not surprised by the switch to the C-Grind as I have always had a shallow swing through the ball and am what Bill called a picker vs a digger) I could immediately feel the difference when he handed me the club as the toe now swung down faster when I held it lightly in my hand as it was heavier.  My shots were still a little left but not to the point of being worried about missing the green vs being in the woods. I also noticed that with the C grind, I was getting a smoother feel of the clubhead moving through the ball and the delay in the club contacting the ball was gone.  He watched my swing, looked at the tracking data, and said he wanted to make one more adjustment.  He then set the weights to 2g/8g/10g and now everything I hit was right down the middle.  I could feel the club head moving under the ball and striking "pure".  My shots had a good elevation, distance, and target tracking and I was elated.

After I finished hitting, Bill took a look at the face of the club and noticed that I was hitting slightly off center more toward the toe of the club with most of my shots (at least it was consistent).  He then gave me an education on shaft droop and how the stiffness of the shaft can droop causing it to hit on the toe instead of the center.  The final stage of the fitting was hitting the club on a lie board.  When I played before, my Hogan Edge clubs were +1 length and 1° upright. When I swung on the lie board this time with the +1 shaft, it turned out that I was good with the standard lie angle on the wedge.

So here is what I am going with for the testing:

• 50°, 54°, and 58°
• C-Grind with 2g/8g/10g weight dispersion
• KBS Tour Wedge - S +1"
• Tour Velvet - Std
• Black and Silver Hosel with all BLACK paint (I find RED to be distracting for some reason)

Kind of a boring setup I know, but it is what works for me ... at least in the simulator.  

Once the clubs are delivered, Bill wants me to bring them by so that he can work with me on some of the testing (spin rates, etc...) and to see if there are any individual club adjustments that may need to be made.  He submitted the order and as of now I am about 10 to 14 days out from getting them delivered.

Thanks again to the MGS team for allowing me to be a tester with these wedges.  Also, big props to Ryan Burke and Edel for getting each of us testers taken care of with regards to the fitting and ordering of the clubs. And a very big THANKS to Bill at Golf365 for his knowledge and patience while working with me.

@GrumpyGolf Great intro. It looks like there may be a problem with your images in your post, I can't see them

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Looks like I have a fitting location near me, Sweet! Its where I planned on getting a full bag fitting eventually too

[Edel SMS Wedges]

1 hour ago, GolfSpy_BOS said:

Stop being such a tease @GolfSpy_BOS LOL

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53 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Guess what!?! 

Announcement coming Wednesday for our selected testers

[Edel SMS Wedges]

Would love to get thee on the monitor and gauge them against my current wedges. Look forward to seeing the reviews regardless and Good luck to everyone who applies.

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Congrats to the Testers!

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Have really been wondering about if different balls really show that much difference for most people, sounds like a great testing opportunity. Thank you MGS and Good Luck to all who enter!

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I currently use a Shot Scope V2 (Shout out to Cody @edingc) So this would be pretty interesting to compare to that. I have also been thinking about using a rangefinder to check distance on non obstacle targets. 

Thank you for the opportunity MGS and Best of luck to all who apply!