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Really enjoyed the race yesterday honestly!

I'm a Max fan but loved seeing Lando finally get what has been coming his way. Was just his weekend as it all went his way.

Mclaren sure had good race pace but also think the RB was not in a good spot for whatever reason. Either way some great racing thru the field but struggling to understand DannyRic and his weekend

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My favorite race of the season so far! Very happy for Lando, it was a long time coming

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Not going to lie, I love watching F1 more than NASCAR. I just don't understand a lot of the rules for penalties and what not during the race. I started watching it in 2020 when it was NASCAR and F1 as the only things going for sports. I just don't understand some of the penalties. Like even if someone crosses the line and they were in second, they could actually be third because of a penalty. Is the race based on time or just finishing the laps before everyone else like NASCAR? 

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Amazed to see Norris win this week.  Didn’t see that happening.  Incredible performance.

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@Wheelieb yeah in terms of timed penalties. Teams can usually pick when they wanna serve them. So if the guy in second is 2 seconds infront of 3rd. But 2nd place has a 5 second time penalty they haven't served in the pits (by waiting 5 seconds before the pit crew can service the car) that 5 seconds gets tacked on to their total time. 

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Miami is becoming one of my favorite tracks. It’s rare to see so many cars running two wide through a three turn stretch w/o more carnage. On that note, Magnussen continues to drive like an angry teenager. Rotten shame the way he took out Sargeant in his “home” race.

Stoked to see Lando finally hoist hardware on the top step of the podium. Did anybody else see how high he tossed that giant trophy?!! IMO he and Sainz are making a decent case for rounding out the Top 3 driver spots behind Max. Coincidence that they spend their free time driving golf balls or something more to it?

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3 hours ago, LeakyValve said:

@Wheelieb yeah in terms of timed penalties. Teams can usually pick when they wanna serve them. So if the guy in second is 2 seconds infront of 3rd. But 2nd place has a 5 second time penalty they haven't served in the pits (by waiting 5 seconds before the pit crew can service the car) that 5 seconds gets tacked on to their total time. 

So the races are actually timed? I feel I have a lot to learn. Although I do think I figured out the DRS(?) when they can use it. I think it’s when they are within a half a second of the person they are trying to overtake. Of course that’s what I’ve taken from watching for 4ish years

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@Wheelieb technically yes they're timed. DRS is enabled after everyone completes the second lap. It's given to the chasingcar if they are within 1second of the car ahead when they pass a DRS detection zone. 

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Max is doing the 24hr 'Ring virtual race during an F1 weekend. He's crazy 

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Max wins 2 races in 1 weekend, amazing. Lando had the faster car and Max just out drove him. 

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Lando had the pace I think he spent too much time battling Charles. Great weekend though 

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Honestly to see those 3 battling is incredible! Every racing driver prefers an easy win but it also feels better when you've got to push for that win. Rest of the season should be awesome honestly.

Be very interesting to see if RB can get there ish together or keep struggling with tire deg/setup

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Tones of awesome shots. Still find it hard to believe that Grosjean walked away from that crash. 

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2 hours ago, LeakyValve said:

Still find it hard to believe that Grosjean walked away from that crash. 

100%. A real testament to the safety measures put into place. Also a testament to human will. His foot got stuck and he had to force his foot out of his boot to even get out of the car. 

Coincidentally, it was Grosjean's crash that prompted me to start this thread in the first place.

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So how did we feel about the Canadian GP?

Honestly love when the weather plays a part in the race as it bring lots of other teams back in play mid field.

Kind of surprised by Mercs(G.R.) pace but believe if they can get it right the McLaren is the quickest car on the grid right now specially if we bring tire wear into account

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I was pissed that McLaren pulled a ferrari and didn't pit Lando under the SC. Glad they had a good race. 

 

Those damp to dry-ish to damp races are the best. 

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Been a while. What do we think of the Max/Lando crash in Spielberg last week?  

 

I think max knows what he's doing. Never been told to stop driving that way. Did it in '21. Lando might have Hamilton him this weekend at Copse corner again

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That was an entertaining qualy. Not sure how Perez is going to make it a full two seasons....

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8 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

That was an entertaining qualy. Not sure how Perez is going to make it a full two seasons....

Agreed. Kinda crazy they had a 1/2/3 finish for the Brits…

 

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Agreed. Kinda crazy they had a 1/2/3 finish for the Brits…

With Lando in 3rd… never saw that coming…  great qualifier!

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14 hours ago, LeakyValve said:

Been a while. What do we think of the Max/Lando crash in Spielberg last week?  

 

I think max knows what he's doing. Never been told to stop driving that way. Did it in '21. Lando might have Hamilton him this weekend at Copse corner again

I thought Max had matured as a driver since his battle with Hamilton but that appears to not be the case at all.  He hasn't grown at all.  He's either going to win the race or make sure that his challenger doesn't.  He was back to his old ways of moving in the braking zone, deliberately moved into Lando causing the collision and then ran him off the road after he already had a puncture. 

The penalty system in F1 is also a joke.  Max should have been penalized twice, once for each of the above offenses, instead he still finishes in the top 10 and takes home points when he was the one responsible for sending Lando out of the race.   Same goes for the black and white flag Lando earned for going off the track while trying to pass.  Going off the track like that is not the same thing as what they were doing last year where drivers were gaining an advantage by running wide.  In this case Lando went wide unintentionally, driver error, and slowed down to yield the position back.  In my opinion, F1 needs permanent, professional stewards for the entire season.  There is no consistency race to race or season to season which makes it impossible to ever know what is allowed and what isn't and when you're going to get a penalty and when you won't.  It's a joke that a sport that generates $3.5 billion  a year can't afford to pay the stewards to have the same group at every race.  

 

As for qualifying today, I thoroughly enjoyed it and am hoping for a good race tomorrow.  You can almost guarantee that with a fixed floor Max is going to be right up there with the top 3 after a few laps.

 

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I thought Max had matured as a driver since his battle with Hamilton but that appears to not be the case at all.  He hasn't grown at all.  He's either going to win the race or make sure that his challenger doesn't.  He was back to his old ways of moving in the braking zone, deliberately moved into Lando causing the collision and then ran him off the road after he already had a puncture. 

The penalty system in F1 is also a joke.  Max should have been penalized twice, once for each of the above offenses, instead he still finishes in the top 10 and takes home points when he was the one responsible for sending Lando out of the race.   Same goes for the black and white flag Lando earned for going off the track while trying to pass.  Going off the track like that is not the same thing as what they were doing last year where drivers were gaining an advantage by running wide.  In this case Lando went wide unintentionally, driver error, and slowed down to yield the position back.  In my opinion, F1 needs permanent, professional stewards for the entire season.  There is no consistency race to race or season to season which makes it impossible to ever know what is allowed and what isn't and when you're going to get a penalty and when you won't.  It's a joke that a sport that generates $3.5 billion  a year can't afford to pay the stewards to have the same group at every race.  

 

As for qualifying today, I thoroughly enjoyed it and am hoping for a good race tomorrow.  You can almost guarantee that with a fixed floor Max is going to be right up there with the top 3 after a few laps.

 

I would rather see more drivers racing hard and being aggressive like Lando and Max than passive and boring. 

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I would rather see more drivers racing hard and being aggressive like Lando and Max than passive and boring. 

Nobody wants to see boring races but it's annoying to see rules enforced for some people but not others.  Aggressive driving is perfectly fine as long as everyone knows what's permissible and what isn't and I don't think enforcing that would make things boring, I would argue that it would make it more exciting because we'd see more people trying things and/or tighter racing if they weren't concerned about getting run off the track or turned into.  

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If Perez survives silly season I'd be shocked. 

Perez just signed a contract for next season so it would be a big ordeal for Red Bull to get out of.  

Edit:  apparently RB added clauses to his contract that if he falls 100 points behind Max at either the summer break or the end of the season they can terminate his new contract.  Seeing as he is already outside that window things could get very spicy since in order to gain points on Max he has to finish ahead of him and that doesn't seem likely to happen unless the car breaks down.

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@ChitownM2 I saw the same thing. I though there was placement in the WDC too, something like he has to stay within 5 places of Max as well. 

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I'm sure with the contracts there are enough outs for both sides. 

While all rumours apparently he can be dropped if outside of 100 points of max at key points in the season (summer break and off season). He is currently 137 and has scored 15 points in 6 races compared to maxes 119...

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