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I ordered 3 boxes for xmas to play down in myrtle beach(I'm from Canada) after checking the ball test, I was looking for a firmer Higher spin ball for my iron and decided to give it a try. Ball height was similar to other ball, spin was definitively higher in general on iron AND driver, Lower shot also managed to stop extremely early compared to other balls, this is gonna have to be investigated more on my part because condition are different in myrtle beach than Canada. It's not my typical ball behavior, lower shot off a pitching wedge will generally bounce 2-3 times and get out of the green, the Z star diamond bounced once and the ball almost stopped completely on the second bounce which I almost never do. Feeling is ok, along all firmer ball out there, Off the driver, it seemed a little higher than usual, distance was similar. So far a good promising ball for me. I was hitting pro v1x and z star diamond off the tee during a few hole on every course and pro v1x was longer in general and not by a few feet but more by a few yards... On similar stroke pro v1x was maybe at least 3 to 5 yards longer in general even more in the wind. Condition were 10 to 15 celcius in general. My swing speed with the driver was probably around 95-96 mp/hduring xmas time.

I recently switched to player distance too, had G425 and switch to I525, still waiting for the winter to go away here in canada to try them. If you plan to keep those for a long time, then a DTC brand might be a good choice, cheaper, very good quality in general, might not be as good as some of the major OEM but they are very close, for half the price in general..if you want resale value, generally Bigger OEM tend to keep more value, Ping and mizuno being generally having the most resale value from what i've seen. P790 were a little on the low spin side when I tested them (didnt like the feel either) so if you don't hit that high, you might want to avoid. I also consider getting the PXG 0211 for a teenager, he need new club out from his kids club and probbaly reaching for either ladies or senior flex. At 99$ a pop, hard to beat that price especially if you dont need a full set from 4 to GW(need to buy 5 club for the 99$ price). Sub70 offering is also hard to beat price wise

New PXG ball New titleist line up Bridgestone New ERC from callaway Vice Other DTC ball that actually have inventory I would also really like 1 NON urethane ball from company big brand company like taylormade, titleist, callaway, bridgestone, In a way I want you to waste time testing the balls that Tony says NOT to use. I really want to see the difference this year so I can put those numbers in front of some of my friends.

I plan to try this too, In theory it should fit me well, in reality, you never know. Still need to find a place where I can try ventus velocore shaft in Canada, might have to drive to toronto to get a fit at txg unless they open in ottawa (im from montreal) If not might hit myrtle beach during easter time and will find a spot to get fit for it. Hope it deliver everything you hope for

I've seen and used a similar drill. In mine you can miss the hole but cannot go over more than 2 feet, put a club 2 feet pass the hole and if you touch it you are dead and restart. Also You cannot miss short. if you do you restart also... I'm still on the practice Green from my first session from last year... I do it with 1 feet in between ball, sometimes with 5 to 10 balls in a row. Basically it help you cut your 3 putt by controlling your distance.

I didn't hit the G430 yet but most video and stats out there at the moment shows a small increase in ball speed, on MGS test. G425 max ball speed average was : 140.86 G430 max ball speed average was : 142.20 G425 LST ball speed average was : not in the test from this year. G430 LST ball speed average was : 143.20 Around 1-2% increase in ball speed for the 430 vs the 425. MOST other video I saw out there everyone had a ball speed increase around 1-3% (2% increase for people around 95-110 mph swing speed) over that speed increase was a little higher...) It's not much but with better sound ( and I don't really care about sound BUT people tend to look you funny after a drive sometimes ) Only drawback I've seen is a little less forgiving (hard to quantifies ) and for some people it spin a little bit more, again in the range of a 0.5 to 1% increased spin. Also ping changed some of their shaft option this year so it might be worth a test if you use their default shaft. I know I will give them a try soon enough

Nice to hear, Ping customer service seems even better than what I heard. Club Champion business model are fitting you, building your club, selling you that specific spec at top $ to increase their benefits. Everybody heard bad story from that place (and others). I think it depend on the fitter also. I've seen a few people getting fit into weird shaft brand that we don't hear everyday and sometimes we wonder is it to increase their profit margin or was it the best option for you... Si I'm not really surprised that you got that answer. What I don't understand is why they didnt take your 50-90$ for one of the easiest fitting out there. They have 3 head possible, You wont probably fit into the LST so it will take like 3-5min to figure out the head probably. You will probably fit into 3 possible shaft also, the RDX smoke Red either 50 or 60g or the standard alta CB so in the end probably gonna be a 30 min fitting that if everything goes well, if not 40 min and you will have to take a decision. I can foresee having to decide on the head between a max in draw setting or the SFT. Shaft will produce different result depending on the head. the Smoke red 50g is probably the nearest to your alta distanza, the ALta CB are very similar form one year to the other and the snoke red 60g is worth a try for sure, and as usual all 3 shaft are good. Golftech will show you nice graphic I heard to show you your optimal launch condition. Also if you don't trust the fitter, know your numbers before going in there. One fitter tried to sell me a driver with under 2000 spin because I was hitting hit "good". If you are not sure about your optimal launch condition, a few website will give you some info on those. here is the link on the ping website. https://ping.com/en-us/blogs/proving-grounds/optimal-launch-and-spin I will probably go get fit for a driver AGAIN this year (im in canada) so my option are either TXG 6hours away, club champions when I go back to the states or Golftech near my place. I simply want a new driver with probably a ventus on it OR any other aftermarket shaft from a known brand. But ping changed their shaft this year so gonna give it a try again with stock shaft but for me if its not the best, its not good so gonna cost me a arm and a leg...

I've hit the the Ping G SFT and the G400 SFT from other people I know, Both felt similar to me, bought a G410 SFT in 2021 and I've hit also the G425 SFT in the bay that year. I dont remember the shaft they had on the ping G but it was probably the standard alta shaft cause it was blue, the G400 it was also the ALta, swing weight was higher on the ping G and G400 than G410 or G425 from what I remember. The shaft on the G410 / G425 was the standard ALta CB Stiff flex. I also found that the Ping G was less draw Bias for me when I was hitting it. Not entirely sure if it was the head, the swing weight or the shaft honestly. I think they improved their head with more weight in the heel but I ended up selling the G410 SFT at the end of the year and got a G425 Max, My swing changed a lot over the time and I dont really need a Draw bias driver. One of my friend is using a MAx with weight in the heel, the SFT make him always 10 yards off center, the Max is much more stable for him as he hit most of the time the center line. I'd open the face to the maximum with the setting avalaible for you on the G425. P.S. The Ping G SFT always felt better when I was hitting it than the G410 SFT but the G410 corrected my slice completely to a point that after 3 month playing the driver was unplayable due to my swing correction. I finished the season with Max loft to open the club face and I had to open the club face with my grip to be able to hit something rather straight. I sometimes still hit the ping G from my friend's kid at the driving range and I draw around 5-10 yards with it, G410 SFT was more around 10-15 yards. Good luck finding a solution

From I've gathered from video and personnal testing etc... the Stealth woods are extremely long from what I've seen, low launch + low spin for a lot of players. I've hit both the G425 3 wood and the stealth one and for me stealth had a good 10 yard farther but they were low bullet compared to a more higher trajectory for the g425. I ended up with the G425 and still not sure if it was the right decision for me. I'd check if you are still consistent with both out there. If you are, numbers are numbers and they generally don't lie, if you're gapping is weird in between your 3 wood and hybrid/irons, I'd swap one of the 2 wood, probably the 410 lst for another stealth and it should be back to normal.

Came back to golf 2 years ago , had similar problem at start, was slicing mostly so fitter put me 2 upright, halfway trough first season, was ALWAYS hooking, after the season, went back to get reajusted I was standard lie (ping did it for free) only cost me shipping, played all year without any left right trouble, my swing changed again and my shaft felt a little out of control as my swing improved. I bough I525 (mainly for the feel) with a different shaft. SO in basically 2 years when with 3 major change on my irons. HOPEfully I will be good for a few years...

Not the first time I see someone with a very stiff shaft able to hit the ball better with a more consistent strike location on the face. Even us(some friend), often try that with friend's/wife/kids that don't want to invest money into a driver, we have them play a rebar for them which tend to help, although they generally lose swing speed, they gain more ball speed with strike location so more distance and it also diminish their slice. Ball is still not straight in from of them but at least it its straight with face open.

Similar advice, missing some data but you don't hit the ball high enough in the air, if you can't hit dead center on the face, it's better to hit high/toe on the face than low and heel. Reducing spin could just be your angle of attack, which would also give you more height so more distance. You could gain probably an easy 20 yards with a slight change of angle of attack and more center strike.

As other stated, you will see when you try it. For me, heavier shaft lower my swing speed for the exact same swing. Heavier shaft allow me to be more aggressive, increase my tempo which can also increase swing speed. If I swing with a slow tempo, 60g goes way better, if I swing with a fast tempo, heavier shaft goes better. I'm just more consistent with lighter shaft in general. As for my friend its the opposite. As soon as he play a heavier shaft, his drive become extremely consistent vs the 60g.

Ping produce very good equipment but most company does honestly... Wood technology don't change much also over the years. I got a g425 3 wood this year (actually went all ping G425 in the end except wedges, not because I wanted, because they gave me best result) and I tried a few other 3 wood out there, head seems a bit more forgiving than older version Ping G30 (2015) or other brand that I tried but not enough to justify for some people the extra $ for the newest one. Always fun to find used club in good shape, especially if the price is low. Most store tend to sell used club at a very high price since the pandemic... My best deal this year, ping G425 Hybrid 4 demo with a ping tour regular shaft at 150$, this thing goes extremely well.

Standard set is 5 to UW, UW at standard loft is 50, 5 is 24 degree, if you want to go with 4 to PW, 4 will be 21 and pw 45 degree. Power spec 4 iron is 19.5 which is really low for most players. the PW is 44 degree, power spec 5 iron is 22.5 degree. retro loft are 2 degree weaker on the scoring club and 4 iron is 23 degree. A guy I know would go power spec, it's important to hit his 5 farther then yours, it boost his ego, can't hold green but hey who cares he swing farther than you! Personally I will probably get them sooner than later and I am undecided around standard loft or retro loft. if I go retro loft would go 4 to PW, standard loft would be 5 to UW. If you didn't hit them yet, go get fit, for me the iron were lower spinning than my G425 and god knows I need more spin... Gained speed and distance at the cost of ball spin, height was quite similar, descent angle was "ok" to hold green like the fitter said but it wasn't "ok" for me. ( I had 15 min left in the fitting bay after a friend fitting so I tried those with my current shaft, didn't try other shaft possibilities) so If you don't want to change your other club in your bag to have a consistent gap in between them, it's pretty much a guess at this point, you could compare with your current gamer at a fitting and make an educated guess but it might cost you another wedge or hybrid / wood if yours are not adjustable. A good fitter will probably tell you right away what option to go for when you decide to take them.

Well the way DJ.s bene playing lately, I think it was the safe move for him and his career to move to LIV league, more money, less competition, less pressure, back to be the center of attention for a little while... Schedule less crowded also it seems for now. Hopefully that league will move the PGA people in a different direction... The ban is a joke actually, most players are already at the end of their career, instead of trying to get them back, they ban them. No, the PGA can't compete money wise with that league but not all player did really make the move for the money, many of them were probably tired of the old guard at the pga

It could, would it be the best fitting out there, probably not, will it be better than off the rack stuff? without a doubt. Both companies have only have a few driver out there with a few shaft. If you can rush it and be stable when you hit, it could be very fast honestly. Ping have G425 max, LS and SFT, if you are straight, LS and max will be chosen, if you spin too much the max they will give you the LS. As for shaft, Alta for high launch, tensei orange for mid launch, rogue white if you prefer heavier shaft.. ping tour for low launch, that's pretty much how it went for a friend of mine when he tried it... It took around 15 min or so to be dialed in for the driver, the fitter took the last 45 min to sell him a full set of irons! He went out with new irons and not the driver... Irons can be fast too, if you pretty much know which one you want then it's pretty much finding the right shaft with them. Again for ping, Game improvement iron are the G425, I525 are the player distance irons and the I59 are the blade... ping have most standard shaft out there that can fit pretty much every kind of players... High launch, modus pro 105, TT elevate ,dynamic gold 105, mid launch is the ping awt 2.0, dynamic gold 120, kbs tour low launch is the dynamic gold Of course that's baseline, not everyone react the same way to a different shaft but those information will be used by the fitter to dial you in quickly. if you hit steady, will be fast, if you have a lots of mishit or hit all over the place, the guy might struggle a little more as for callaway they offer pretty much the same line up with different name and shaft but can't really help you out with the new line up from this year since I didn't really look into them cause they have yellow on them...(rogue Lineup) the apex are supposed to be VERY good irons if you are in the player's distance category If you are in the game improvement category I would strongly advise you to spend some time with ping as they tend to be more forgiving... the Driver is a beast to not lose ball (why it finished first in the forgivness department at MGS), their irons are ranked among the most forgiving out there. if you are in the player's distance Iron, I would for sure give a try to those apex from callaway, as for their driver, they are always good, you wouldnt go wrong with one of those... P.S. I pretty much all have G425 in my bag Selling point for my irons are that they could adjust the lie back at ping for 2 years, you just pay shipping cost... they also have a good resale value. Was 2 upright after 15 years not playing golf, now im back into standard lie. This year I tried for 3 hours all the driver out there... Longest one for me was the TSi3 from titleist, but I still took the Ping g425 max because of forgiveness. ( my miss with the ping are 15 yard from the center line normally as my miss with the titleist was a 30 yard slice) The ping LS was a little too low spin for me and was actually losing distance on 1/3rd of the shot with it. Cobra was actually surprisingly good, Callaway was ok, nothing good, nothing bad, the taylormade stealth was the longest one when I could actually hit it correctly which didnt happend very often.

To my knowledge from what i've learned lately concerning drivers and adjustable clubs. Callaway or other adjustable hosel with D setting... Draw setting on those hosel will make the club UPRIGHT which means you will generally draw the ball more. Increasing loft on your driver will also close a little bit the club face. Moving weight in the Heel will increase your draw. You need to experiment what work best for you and your game... It can be some weird combo that make no sense but it work for you, or simply it could be standard everywhere. if it's Draw setting with weight in the toe that work for you, then it is, it would make no sense for most people but for you it work...

I am planning on switching to graphite on my next set, not sure when. I have G425 with TT elevate 95 (stiff). Those shaft produce less pain on my left elbow than other heavier shaft when I miss hit the ball. Next step is graphite even if I am under 45 years old. Will get my swing back to more consistency and go try them in the hitting bay with taylormade stealth I think.

thanks for the info on the ventus red, think im gonna give them a try eventually

It's impossible for a fitter not to be BIAS. Some get discount, trip, free clubs from OEM. Also they have information about some OEM that you don't, like customer service, delay, error in the order for their customers. Some OEM offer 1 or 2 no upcharge shaft, others offer 5-6 different shaft, in the end they will tell you it's "X" head with "Y" shaft that seems the best. But "Y" head is almost as good today as the "X" head. If you go back tomorrow, maybe "Y" head with "X" shaft will be better. Then it come down to WHAT you want. I know that I need high launch High spin shaft. Every fitter will see it after 5 shot in the bay, they all gonna offer me Game improvement irons with high launch shaft... Which brand the fitter will offer me first... There is the Bias I think. He will go with what he fitted the most similar player to me before...

Been playing with them, I see bad , ok and good comment all over the place, for me it's been a very good experience so far... I got Ping G425 irons last year with arccos grip, bough the g425 driver and g425 3 wood this year too, got 5 wood cobra with the arccos grip too, my wedges got the free sensor I got with my ping purchase from last year, my putter have the putter sensor. On my wedges, sensor are screwed in and I taped them with electric tape, 0 trouble with loose sensor or anything. I also play with my phone in my front pocket. The good: No more scorecard, could have been a watch, another apps on the phone or anything else but for me its the best thing for sure. I play my game, finish my hole, add or adjust the number of putt after the hole, thats it, nothing else to do. You can even take mulligan from the same spot, won't record more than one shot. Shot tracking up to the putter is almost flawless, I get around 1% of non recorded shot for the whole year. It work with light so if you take your club out when it's getting darker at the end of a day, leave the sensor close to your body, might not record the shot otherwise 0 trouble... having trouble recording shot with a specific club? just clean the sensor, most of the time it will solve the problem. Gps have accurate data, it's not a range finder but will do the job just like any other gps out there. Arccos caddie is usefull for some player... Club average distance after a few game are quite accurate. It will discard abnormal distance for your average. Tells you your tendencies, what to work on etc... Last year it told me I was 66% RIGHT, got fitted again, and now im only 33% RIGHT so far this year... It also tells me I suck at putting, politely... The Bad: annual fee... Putting stroke are hard to rely on, need to constantly adjust my number of putt at the end of a hole. Can't search a ball in the woods/hazard with your club, will often add a shot. (You need to take your club out of the bag and cover the sensor with your hand for it not to record any stroke. (Could have been in the good category since you can't search for other player lost ball anymore...) annual fee... Honestly, it's worth a try if you like technology and stats... Golf if the most conservative sport in the world, those type of sensor are gonna be standard in a few year, just like graphite shaft will eventually replace steel in all the irons. Younger generation are starting golf now and thing will change... hopefully price will drop on those grips and annual fees...

Normally 90 mph is regular flex as a baseline when you start looking for shaft BUT he can easily fit in lighter stiff shaft. Golf should have a standard for new players so they can understand what shaft they are getting.

3 Hybrid aren't the most demo club, people always try drivers then 3 wood. I'd say a very good buy