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Look there is a ton of confusing information out there about pured shafts and if it actually matters. If it did i would think that every tour player would have it done. I’ve seen claims of yardage increases and various other claims are there any truths to it?

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Been some discussion in this before.
Some say yes. some say no. Some say it used to work when shafts were not manufactured as well and had spines. Only way to tell would be to take club and pure it and capture numbers. Then turn the shaft into various orientations and capture more numbers. That approach might give an answer for that shaft line, but not necessarily for and other shaft line or manufacturer.

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... To add to what cnosil said, I used to spine align my steel iron shafts. I had Dynamic Gold shafts that had such obvious spines they were hard to roll on a cement floor. But production has gotten sooooo much better. Kim Braley and Nippon set the bar very high so everyone else had to step up their game. I play graphite in my irons and most are over 99% round. But I did just install some Nippon 105's in my P790's and for the heck of it, I checked their spines and basically could not find any. I would probably still check the spines of any steel shafts I installed but I would never pay for SST Puring. Ymmv ...

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Fw wood: Cobra Speedzone 14.5* ... Atmos TS Blue 7s
Utility:   TaylorMade UDi 18*  ... HZRDUS Black 6.0 85 hy
Irons:    4-Gw Titleist T100-S ... Kuro Kage 105 Tini s-flex
              4-pw TaylorMade P760 ... Recoil Prototype 95 r-flex
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I did have my graphite iron shafts pured for my current set of irons that I ordered.  Since I don't have before and after data to compare, I can't comment if it was worth the $$ or not.  Here's what I do know....I don't have any doubts niggling in the back of my mind that maybe if I'd only done this....blah blah.  In any case, I'm hitting my irons very consistently and any faults with the results lay solely on me and my swing.

My hybrids, wedges, and woods are not pured (Driver was).  I hit the hybrids pretty straight.  Driver's another story, but again, that's more me than anything else.

Bottom line:  I don't really know one way or the other.

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Take it for what you want but I’ve had two people from different shaft companies say it isn’t necessary 

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Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4

Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S

Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125

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When I was still playing a Nike Vapor Pro driver, I purchased a different shaft and had it "pured". The club worked well, but not having anything to go off of, I don't know if it was worth the money. When I switched to my Ping G25, I purchased that same shaft without puring to try in the new head. It doesn't seem to be a good match for me at all. The shaft feels okay, but it launches the ball with too little spin and it drops out of the air. Maybe there's a difference because of the shaft's alignment, but more than likely the difference comes from the vastly different driver head.

I'm still holding onto the shaft to try when I get my club head speed up where I want it, but currently the stock shaft works just fine for me.

I do have to agree with what @CarlH said though. If you want absolute peace of mind that your clubs are spec'd out as well as they possibly could be, then it isn't going to hurt anything (except your checkbook) to do it.


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Fairway Wood: Mizuno ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S
Hyrbrid: Mizuno CLK 19* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB
Irons: Nike Vapor Pro Combo (4-PW) Dynamic Gold Pro S300
Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 50*, 54*, & 58* Nippon Modus 3 105
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... Fwiw, I also used to Flo my driver shafts and was amazed at how badly some stock shafts wobbled while premium after market shafts stayed more in a straight line. Seemed pretty obvious to me there was an advantage to Floing driver shafts. But I played a round with the VP of Engineering that designed the NV as well as many other shafts and they used to align their shafts at the factory. But high speed photography showed that every single shaft, regardless of orientation produced a perfectly straight line on the first pass. Aldila stopped orienting shafts as they thought it was a wast of time. Cheaper shafts of poorer quality began to wobble quickly but of course we only swing our driver once. So Floing only exposes the quality of the shaft, not it's potential to stay on line when swinging it.

... And obviously this also meant the shafts that flowed much better were more consistent from shaft to shaft while the ones that wobbled were all over the place. This is the main reason premium shafts are very similar and when you buy a new 3 wood to match your driver you can feel pretty sure performance will be the same, where you could get 2 radically different performing shafts going the cheap route. 

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Fw wood: Cobra Speedzone 14.5* ... Atmos TS Blue 7s
Utility:   TaylorMade UDi 18*  ... HZRDUS Black 6.0 85 hy
Irons:    4-Gw Titleist T100-S ... Kuro Kage 105 Tini s-flex
              4-pw TaylorMade P760 ... Recoil Prototype 95 r-flex
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5 hours ago, TR1PTIK said:

Maybe there's a difference because of the shaft's alignment, but more than likely the difference comes from the vastly different driver head.

 

Head trumps any/most shafts.

Puring is a bit of a placebo for some.


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4 Wood   Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+  :callaway-small: Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex

Hybrid     Titleist 910H 19*    :titelist-small:   Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S'

Irons         Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW   :mizuno-small:  N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S'

Wedges    Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54*  :callaway-small:   KBS Tour in 'R'

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Did you ever flo iron steel shafts. My modus 120 had a lot of oscillation in them when i did 1 of my irons. I have my driver pured right now have two hybrids that i am scared to do anything with because i hit them great 1 of my irons i have pured and i haven’t picked up yardage but can tell it loads different......switching out of the modus and going to a dynamic gold black gold frequency matched tour iron shaft and was thinking of either pureing or spine align at minimum

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13 hours ago, perseveringgolfer said:

Head trumps any/most shafts.

Puring is a bit of a placebo for some.

I don't disagree. Just making the statement for the purpose of this discussion. 😉

My experience with multiple Ping driver heads is that they are lower spin for me.

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Driver: Mizuno ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S
Fairway Wood: Mizuno ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S
Hyrbrid: Mizuno CLK 19* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB
Irons: Nike Vapor Pro Combo (4-PW) Dynamic Gold Pro S300
Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 50*, 54*, & 58* Nippon Modus 3 105
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