550025KV Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 I run our weekly buddies game. Usually just a $20 buy in. We have that one guy that has the questionable hdcp. Either never posts or only posts the higher scores. Every week we have to embarrass him into posting to GHIN and it's never a comfortable conversation. How to you guys manage your groups and handicaps? Here are my options: 1. Leave him out of the game. 2. We do the adjust and tell him he's playing to a xxx. Quote Mav SubZ 9° Mav SubZ 14.5° Mav SubZ 16° Mav 4hy Apex CF19 5- AW Hogan Equalizer 54° Cleveland 58° Odyssey StrokeLab 7s TaylorMade TP5x Link to comment
tony@CIC Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 If I was part of your group and he played, I'd opt out of future games, so definitely #1. It sends a clear message "no sandbaggers" allowed. fixyurdivot 1 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment
Larryw Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Keep the group's handicaps based ONLY on scores recorded during the weekly competitions. (ignore GHIN or other official handicaps) Helps the person that has a "tendency" to shoot high scores all week but has a "great" day during the competition. (seems to be lot of these guys) Also helps the person that has low scores when playing outside of competition but struggles with nerves when in competition. (not as many of these - but they do exist) Sort of evens out those opposite players and pulls them closer to the normal players and helps keep everyone happier. cnosil and fixyurdivot 2 Quote Tour Edge C721 Driver, Integra 45g L flex shaft BombTech 2 HW 16* BombTech 5 W Maltby KE4-Max 5 - PW, Recoil Dart 65 A flex shaft Maltby TSW-DRM 50*/54* wedges, Recoil Dart 75 R flex/spinner shaft Bettinardi Studio Stock #5 putter Link to comment
CarlH Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 2 hours ago, 550025KV said: I run our weekly buddies game. Usually just a $20 buy in. We have that one guy that has the questionable hdcp. Either never posts or only posts the higher scores. Every week we have to embarrass him into posting to GHIN and it's never a comfortable conversation. How to you guys manage your groups and handicaps? Here are my options: 1. Leave him out of the game. 2. We do the adjust and tell him he's playing to a xxx. I've been in groups that simply disinvite cheaters. Quote Driver: Black Ops 12* with Cypher 50 5.0 Fairway: Black Ops 3 wood with Cypher 50 5.0 Hybrids: Black Ops 19* and 22* with Cypher 50 5.0 Irons: Gen6 6, 7, 8, 9, W, G with Cypher 50 5.0 Wedges: Sugar Daddy II 52* and 56* with Cypher 50 5.0 Putter: DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft @ 34" Ball: Tour, Chrome Tour, Pro V1 Other: C10 Bag, glove My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment
Tom the Golf Nut Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Larryw said: Keep the group's handicaps based ONLY on scores recorded during the weekly competitions. (ignore GHIN or other official handicaps) Agreed. This is what I did when I ran my companies work leagues. Scorecards were turned in and scores were entered into a spreadsheet. We had a formula in there to establish handicaps. There was no way of getting around it. No sandbagging or cheating the handicap by not posting. Stuka44 and fixyurdivot 2 Quote Driver, TSi 1 S Flex 3 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex Irons, Vice VGI01 Mitsubishi Wiz 60-gram regular flex (6 - PW) VGW01, 50 Degree. Mitsubishi Wiz 60-gram regular flex, Wedges, Snakebite KBS Hi- Rev2.0 54* & 60* Putter, Sacks Parente Drac Center Shafted 35" Ultralight 14-way Cart Bag Link to comment
MNUte Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 I have an issue with someone who's inclined to cheat during a buddies game with a fairly small buy in. If you can't be honest with your buddies and have to cheat when you're with them just to win a few bucks, that's not necessarily a person I'd want to keep playing with. CarlH 1 Quote Rag tag bag, but it does the job. Taylormade R1 driver. Ping G400 3 wood. Cleveland Halo Launcher 3 hybrid. Cleveland CBX launcher irons (5-PW). Assorted wedges (48, 52, 58). Odyssey White Hot Pro 2.0 putter. Link to comment
RedTailDuck Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Agreed. This is what I did when I ran my companies work leagues. Scorecards were turned in and scores were entered into a spreadsheet. We had a formula in there to establish handicaps. There was no way of getting around it. No sandbagging or cheating the handicap by not posting.Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Quote Link to comment
RedTailDuck Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Agree! Best club I ever played in worked this way and it made for a fair game. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Quote Link to comment
PBH3 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I don't think I'd want to be friends with a guy that cheats to get $20 out of his "friends" so I'd just stop playing with him. But I like the idea mentioned of keeping a separate handicap just for your money games. Stuka44 and tony@CIC 2 Quote Driver- Ping G410 Plus 9* Fairway- Tour Edge Exotics EXS 220 3 Wood 16.5* Hybrid- Tour Edge Hot Launch C521 19* & 22* Irons-PXG 0211 DC, 5-GW Wedges- Sub70 286 54* & Sub70 JB 58* Putter- PXG Battle Ready Mustang Ball- Snell MTB-X Maxfli Tour X Grips- Golf Pride CP2 Wrap Midsize Bag- Ping Hoofer USA Edition Arccos Link to comment
CarlH Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, PBH3 said: I don't think I'd want to be friends with a guy that cheats to get $20 out of his "friends" so I'd just stop playing with him. Or do any business dealings with him, either! Sandbagging a handicap (or any other cheating)in golf tells me a LOT about a person's character. tony@CIC, PBH3, GolfSpy_KFT and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Black Ops 12* with Cypher 50 5.0 Fairway: Black Ops 3 wood with Cypher 50 5.0 Hybrids: Black Ops 19* and 22* with Cypher 50 5.0 Irons: Gen6 6, 7, 8, 9, W, G with Cypher 50 5.0 Wedges: Sugar Daddy II 52* and 56* with Cypher 50 5.0 Putter: DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft @ 34" Ball: Tour, Chrome Tour, Pro V1 Other: C10 Bag, glove My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment
550025KV Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 Amen. If you're cheating at golf, you're cheating in business and in life. Stuka44, CarlH, Golf2Much and 1 other 4 Quote Mav SubZ 9° Mav SubZ 14.5° Mav SubZ 16° Mav 4hy Apex CF19 5- AW Hogan Equalizer 54° Cleveland 58° Odyssey StrokeLab 7s TaylorMade TP5x Link to comment
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