GolfSpy SAM Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 So, announced today (MGS Article Link Here) are the new iteration of the 0211s, and it's definitely got my attention. Question for those of you who've played both/either: The gains seem small over the original 0211s (now priced at $79/club). Would you go original 0211, Sub-70 Pro 699 (which have ALSO got to be due for a refresh), or try out these new 0211s for a nearly-$50/club upcharge (but man that all-black one looks goooood, albeit for even more $$ per club)? I know, I know, this is probably an impossible question, but...I'm asking it anyway. I'm currently playing a 2020 set of Sim Max Irons, and as my game progresses (went from 20+ handicap to currently sitting at 12.4), newer/nicer clubs constantly have my attention. Thoughts? Opinions? Disgust at my abject magpie-self? -Samsonite. Quote Driver - Callaway Ai Smoke Max - 9* - Draw setting; Maltby UL (Otto Phlex) 5/7 Wood - Takomo Ignis Utility - Caley X01 Driving Iron (3 = 18*) (currently benched) Irons (5-PW) - Caley 01T Wedges (48, 52, 56, 60) - Indi Wedges FLX 48 / ATK 52, 56, 60 Putter - L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 - 65*/DF3 65* Ball - Chrome Tour Triple-Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBH3 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 26 minutes ago, Samsonite said: You'd have to hit them both to compare, but from the article this morning it sounds like the new version is lower spinning which might not be ideal for a lot of players. GolfSpy SAM, nupezb and fixyurdivot 3 Quote Driver- Ping G410 Plus 9* Fairway- Tour Edge Exotics EXS 220 3 Wood 16.5* Hybrid- Tour Edge Hot Launch C521 19* & 22* Irons-PXG 0211 DC, 5-GW Wedges- Sub70 286 54* & Sub70 JB 58* Putter- PXG Battle Ready Mustang Ball- Snell MTB-X Maxfli Tour X Grips- Golf Pride CP2 Wrap Midsize Bag- Ping Hoofer USA Edition Arccos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy SAM Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, PBH3 said: You'd have to hit them both to compare, but from the article this morning it sounds like the new version is lower spinning which might not be ideal for a lot of players. Yeah, I didn't love that aspect. I'm tempted to set up a fitting and try the new/old 0211, and have a Demo set of the 699 Pro on-hand as well to see how they feel (especially as the 6-iron 699 is 27* vs. 7-iron of the PXG at 28*. I imagine that would be a pretty clear indicator of which is preferred. PBH3 1 Quote Driver - Callaway Ai Smoke Max - 9* - Draw setting; Maltby UL (Otto Phlex) 5/7 Wood - Takomo Ignis Utility - Caley X01 Driving Iron (3 = 18*) (currently benched) Irons (5-PW) - Caley 01T Wedges (48, 52, 56, 60) - Indi Wedges FLX 48 / ATK 52, 56, 60 Putter - L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 - 65*/DF3 65* Ball - Chrome Tour Triple-Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer Steve Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 I'd be curious what a shaft fitting would gain you in spin. From the specs/details I saw, I believe there's a spinnier shaft available when fitted which would not involve an upcharge. Definitely liking what I saw from the simulator video and the on-course videos I saw on YouTube from the Let's Play Thru guy. He's an above average golfer with a moderate swing speed, but is a very good communicator about equipment and makes entertaining, informative videos. GolfSpy SAM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 I don't have any info to help your decision @Samsoniteexcept to say that generally there is little performance difference in most subsequent model year designs. Definitely hitting them side by side would be best. I will also add that since joining MGS, my impression of PXG has completely changed. I originally viewed them as an expensive, snobbish, bling-focused, who's who and wants to be seen playing them product. I now see them as a very competitive product both in price and performance. Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy SAM Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 36 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said: I don't have any info to help your decision @Samsoniteexcept to say that generally there is little performance difference in most subsequent model year designs. Definitely hitting them side by side would be best. I will also add that since joining MGS, my impression of PXG has completely changed. I originally viewed them as an expensive, snobbish, bling-focused, who's who and wants to be seen playing them product. I now see them as a very competitive product both in price and performance. Ditto - it honestly was the 0211 that turned my head. I'm just NOT in the market for multi-hundred-per-iron sets, and the idea that they'd created something AS GOOD OR BETTER and were selling it at significantly cheaper...not to mention the sales they seem to always be having (brand new Gen 5 driver for 299???)...I think they've figured out their model. And for sure, year over year is hardly ever worth it, but I'll say having hit (for fun, as I have the original 2020s) the 2021 Sim Max 2 irons, and then the Stealth irons - TaylorMade really did make some significant improvements year over year. I feel like it'd be hard to go wrong with the original 0211s at this point, but hitting them side-by-side with the new ones would at least quench that nagging brain-fire-thought. Quote Driver - Callaway Ai Smoke Max - 9* - Draw setting; Maltby UL (Otto Phlex) 5/7 Wood - Takomo Ignis Utility - Caley X01 Driving Iron (3 = 18*) (currently benched) Irons (5-PW) - Caley 01T Wedges (48, 52, 56, 60) - Indi Wedges FLX 48 / ATK 52, 56, 60 Putter - L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 - 65*/DF3 65* Ball - Chrome Tour Triple-Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Can’t comment on the 0211’s but I’ll give another option. Takomo Iron 101. You can get 4-PW heads only for $300 plus $30 shipping to the US. That’s sub $50 a head. Quote What is in my Ghost MGS anyday Maverick or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: GT2 with an Aretera Alpha One Blue 55/4 shaft @ 44.75” or GD VF 5s @45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" TSR2 7 wood shaft TBD Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: Apex TiFusion 4-PW 2* flat with PX Hazrdus Gen4 Silver 75s Wedges: JP Camber 48 & 55 shaft TBD Putter: 2024 Phantom 5.5 @ 34” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy SAM Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 hours ago, blackngold_blood said: Can’t comment on the 0211’s but I’ll give another option. Takomo Iron 101. You can get 4-PW heads only for $300 plus $30 shipping to the US. That’s sub $50 a head. Oh, I’m VERY aware of the Takomos. I’ve been eyeing the 101/101-Ts for a while - I think they’re spectacular looking, and everyone who’s hit them on YouTube has said they’re pretty fantastic. My only pause is the lack of being able to hit them prior, and ordering in customized specs (2° flat, for instance) makes them ineligible for returns. I could always try to re-sell, but… The price is SO good, it might be worth a flyer. Have you played them? Quote Driver - Callaway Ai Smoke Max - 9* - Draw setting; Maltby UL (Otto Phlex) 5/7 Wood - Takomo Ignis Utility - Caley X01 Driving Iron (3 = 18*) (currently benched) Irons (5-PW) - Caley 01T Wedges (48, 52, 56, 60) - Indi Wedges FLX 48 / ATK 52, 56, 60 Putter - L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 - 65*/DF3 65* Ball - Chrome Tour Triple-Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 7 hours ago, Samsonite said: Oh, I’m VERY aware of the Takomos. I’ve been eyeing the 101/101-Ts for a while - I think they’re spectacular looking, and everyone who’s hit them on YouTube has said they’re pretty fantastic. My only pause is the lack of being able to hit them prior, and ordering in customized specs (2° flat, for instance) makes them ineligible for returns. I could always try to re-sell, but… The price is SO good, it might be worth a flyer. Have you played them? I have not played them but they are on my very short list for my next irons. I’m probably either going cheap with Takomo or expensive with PXG Gen5 Xtreme Dark. The P790’s currently in the bag have a fairly wide front to back dispersion for me. For example I usually hit my 7-iron 160ish give or take a couple yards and I managed to nuke one the other day 30 yards over the par 3 and ob. GolfSpy SAM 1 Quote What is in my Ghost MGS anyday Maverick or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: GT2 with an Aretera Alpha One Blue 55/4 shaft @ 44.75” or GD VF 5s @45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" TSR2 7 wood shaft TBD Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: Apex TiFusion 4-PW 2* flat with PX Hazrdus Gen4 Silver 75s Wedges: JP Camber 48 & 55 shaft TBD Putter: 2024 Phantom 5.5 @ 34” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhtr20 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 So, I have two seasons on the 0211 driver and irons. I first bought the driver and liked it so much I bought the irons. For me, they have been nothing short of excellent. I came from Srixon 565 to the 0211. In terms of accuracy and consistency the 0211 win and by a large margin. From what I have read the new version is a bit longer. Honestly the bigger draw to me is the black head, that paired with the MMT shaft would look killer. Before dropping the coin for that I would schedule and pay for a fitting with PXG and do the comparison. I really have no plans to do so because I like the current 0211 irons so much. I did do that when I considered the Gen 4 driver and trackman told us the 0211 was better, at least for me. GolfSpy SAM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy SAM Posted September 1, 2022 Author Share Posted September 1, 2022 Just got off the phone with customer service (re-routing my driver to a local FedEx spot for easier pick-up in case I'm not home to sign for it), and was informed that there's a new deal, live as of last night: 0211 XCOR2 are now $119/club if you buy 5 or more clubs (and ... how would you not?). So that makes a 5-GW set starting at $714 (and free shipping). That's...a crazy good deal. Considering they're brand new (effectively), they're on sale way faster than I would have expected. May need to schedule a fitting soon to see if those could be an improvement over what I'm currently gaming. Fascinating. Vegan_Golfer_PNW 1 Quote Driver - Callaway Ai Smoke Max - 9* - Draw setting; Maltby UL (Otto Phlex) 5/7 Wood - Takomo Ignis Utility - Caley X01 Driving Iron (3 = 18*) (currently benched) Irons (5-PW) - Caley 01T Wedges (48, 52, 56, 60) - Indi Wedges FLX 48 / ATK 52, 56, 60 Putter - L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 - 65*/DF3 65* Ball - Chrome Tour Triple-Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 On 8/8/2022 at 1:44 PM, Duffer Steve said: I'd be curious what a shaft fitting would gain you in spin. From the specs/details I saw, I believe there's a spinnier shaft available when fitted which would not involve an upcharge. Definitely liking what I saw from the simulator video and the on-course videos I saw on YouTube from the Let's Play Thru guy. He's an above average golfer with a moderate swing speed, but is a very good communicator about equipment and makes entertaining, informative videos. Unless someone is in an ill fitted shaft a change in shaft doesn’t produce much change for people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook DeLoft Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 After I saw they were offering full refund returns, I ordered a 7 iron to try. The good is it looks good, isn't big by GI standards and sounds and feels good. For me, the 7 iron flight was too low. Not surprising considering the 28 degree loft. That's a 6 iron in 7 iron clothing. I'm sticking with my 0311 P's. If you are a high ball hitter the new XCor2 might be just the ticket, but as an old fart, I need help elevating the ball. GolfSpy SAM and Vegan_Golfer_PNW 2 Quote 14 of the following: Taylormade Qi10 Max Callaway 2023 Big Bertha 3 wood set to 17 degrees Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood Titleist TSR1 hybrid 26 degrees Ping Eye 2 BeCu 2-SW Ping G430 irons 6-50 degree Sub 70 286 wedges 52 and 56 degrees Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 53 Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER1v Ping Sigma 2 Anser Cheap Top Flite mallet putter from Dick's TaylorMade Mini Spider Bridgestone XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalilama8893 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 I can answer having played a variety of the 311s as well as the new 211s. I am currently gaming the 311P Gen 5s. I play to a 6. I love my current set particularly the “feel” benefits of a forged iron. However, I recently played out of town and tried the new 211s. While they did not have the maneuverability of soft feel of my 5s, the played great. I probably gained 5 yards and the drop in feel was not nearly as great as I feared. In short, the new 211s rock at a reasonable price. And, I love the black finish too…. Vegan_Golfer_PNW and GolfSpy SAM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptStang Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 I have the 0211's 4-GW and upgraded the shaft to Dynamic Gold Tour 105's which made a huge difference in ball flight and carry. Love them every time out! Hollis and GolfSpy SAM 2 Quote Golf Gear Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minarets Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 I love the look of these in black. They are obviously strong lofted. I’m playing 921F now with a 31° 7 iron. Maybe get these de-lofted 1° and I’m a high ball hitter so may be a good combo to help lower the flight some. I want to hit them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollis Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Any more thoughts on these? Quote WITB? Mizuno JPX921F 4-PW, recoil 95 shafts Callaway Epic SZ 9.5°, Hzrdus Smoke black Ping Glide 3.0 50,54,60 PXG hybrid 0317 Gen 1, Tensi CK Blue Cobra F9 14.5° 3 wood, Atmos Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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