stratgolf Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Might be a bit of a silly question, but does anybody find it odd that ball fittings aren't advertised more? You're always hitting the same ball regardless of club, could argue its the single most important piece of equipment you own. Is the general idea that when you get fitted for clubs your fitter should give you some guidance on clubs or? Quote Taylormade Stealth Plus Driver 9, Oban Devotion 45-03 | Callaway Paradym Triple Diamond 3 + 5 Wood, Oban Revenge 65-03 | Mizuno HiFli 16.5 2 Iron | Titleist T200 4-GW Irons, KBS Tour 110 R | Titleist Vokey Design SM9 Chrome SW & LW (54/12D, 60/12D) | Odyssey Versa Seven Putter | Titleist Pro V1x | Srixon Tour Staff Bag The Open Staff Bag 2022 | Clicgear Model 4.0 Buggy | Bushnell Tour V6 Shift Rangefinder | Golf Pride MCC ALIGN (Standard) Grips | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Don’t assume everyone is hitting the same ball on every shot. You will read many posts about people having multiple different balls they play in a round. You will also read about people playing found balls, refurbished balls, buying balls from places like lostgolfballs. Some golfers buy whatever’s on sale or prefer to not pay for tour level balls. They don’t think the ball is that important, you can read posts on here about members not seeing a difference between balls. As for the ball fittings my guess is that they weren’t very popular and other than titleist the oems have moved away from doing ball specific fittings. Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilM75072 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I know that Callaway, Bridgestone, Titleist and Srixon offer ball fitting online, at least helping to determine which of their balls is best for you. Ping, since they do not offer their own ball, has "Ballnamic" which offers ball fitting that is brand independent. Quote In my TaylorMade Supreme Golf Bag: Driver: PXG Gen 6 0311 10.5° with Motore X F3 R Shaft 45" 3W: Callaway 3W Mavrik Max w/ UST Helium Black 4F2 5W: Callaway Epic Flash (+1/N) w/ Project X Evenflow Green R Flex Hybrid: Callaway Big Bertha 4H (+1/N) w/ UST Recoil 760 ES F2 Irons: Callaway Apex CF19 with UST Recoil F2 shafts Wedges: Callaway MD5 54° and 58° with KBS steel shafts. Putter: Seemore Original FGP Mallet or Toulon Portland Ball: Currently Bridgestone Tour B RX Mindset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratgolf Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 10 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Don’t assume everyone is hitting the same ball on every shot. You will read many posts about people having multiple different balls they play in a round. You will also read about people playing found balls, refurbished balls, buying balls from places like lostgolfballs. Some golfers buy whatever’s on sale or prefer to not pay for tour level balls. They don’t think the ball is that important, you can read posts on here about members not seeing a difference between balls. As for the ball fittings my guess is that they weren’t very popular and other than titleist the oems have moved away from doing ball specific fittings. Certainly don't assume that - but I'd guess that most members on this site would be interested in testing lots of balls to find the one that suits their equipment. Funny that we as golfers turn our nose up at $85 AUD balls but are happy to shell out $1000 AUD plus for a driver. 10 hours ago, PhilM75072 said: I know that Callaway, Bridgestone, Titleist and Srixon offer ball fitting online, at least helping to determine which of their balls is best for you. Ping, since they do not offer their own ball, has "Ballnamic" which offers ball fitting that is brand independent. Yes they certainly do - good tools, but I'd love to go hit some. Quote Taylormade Stealth Plus Driver 9, Oban Devotion 45-03 | Callaway Paradym Triple Diamond 3 + 5 Wood, Oban Revenge 65-03 | Mizuno HiFli 16.5 2 Iron | Titleist T200 4-GW Irons, KBS Tour 110 R | Titleist Vokey Design SM9 Chrome SW & LW (54/12D, 60/12D) | Odyssey Versa Seven Putter | Titleist Pro V1x | Srixon Tour Staff Bag The Open Staff Bag 2022 | Clicgear Model 4.0 Buggy | Bushnell Tour V6 Shift Rangefinder | Golf Pride MCC ALIGN (Standard) Grips | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 17 hours ago, stratgolf said: Might be a bit of a silly question, but does anybody find it odd that ball fittings aren't advertised more? You're always hitting the same ball regardless of club, could argue its the single most important piece of equipment you own. Is the general idea that when you get fitted for clubs your fitter should give you some guidance on clubs or? Not a silly question. I think your answer will depend on the knowledge level of the golfer. The overwhelming majority of golfers walk into a store and buy off the rack or what is hot on the PGA tour (re: Odyssey Versa putter). Ball is primarily going to be Prov1 or Callaway for this golfer or the cheapest they can find (since they lose a lot). If you follow the forum you will see that there are knowledgeable golfers that play 2 piece distance balls because through experimentation they feel they work best. I have experimented with balls and based on my club assessments know that I generally need a higher spinning ball. I can leverage the MGS ball test to find balls that match what I am looking for. The question is what is a "good" ball fitting, how does it work, and where can it be done in a way that is accessible to many. I have done some of the online fittings, I did the bridgestone fittings where you hit clubs and they tell you what works, and I have heard about the Titleist ball fitting process focused around short game needs. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: XCG7 Beta 15* w/Fujikura Fuel Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin2win Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I love me a good ball fitting. But the main blog really did such great job with their semi annual ball test that you can basically use it to find a ball with the launch / spin you want: https://mygolfspy.com/buyers-guides/golf-balls/best-golf-balls-2021/ Fred Mitchell 1 Quote WITB: Driver: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4 FW Wood: Gen5 0311 7w Fujikura Motore X F3 Irons: ZX7 PW-7i, ZX5 6i-5i Wedges: Zipcore 50°, 58° Putter: MySpider X Cart: Onewheel XR+ Ball: Z-Star Diamond/ Z-Star XV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratgolf Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, Thin2win said: I love me a good ball fitting. But the main blog really did such great job with their semi annual ball test that you can basically use it to find a ball with the launch / spin you want: https://mygolfspy.com/buyers-guides/golf-balls/best-golf-balls-2021/ Holding out for the ball article dropping soon! 53 minutes ago, cnosil said: Not a silly question. I think your answer will depend on the knowledge level of the golfer. The overwhelming majority of golfers walk into a store and buy off the rack or what is hot on the PGA tour (re: Odyssey Versa putter). Ball is primarily going to be Prov1 or Callaway for this golfer or the cheapest they can find (since they lose a lot). If you follow the forum you will see that there are knowledgeable golfers that play 2 piece distance balls because through experimentation they feel they work best. I have experimented with balls and based on my club assessments know that I generally need a higher spinning ball. I can leverage the MGS ball test to find balls that match what I am looking for. The question is what is a "good" ball fitting, how does it work, and where can it be done in a way that is accessible to many. I have done some of the online fittings, I did the bridgestone fittings where you hit clubs and they tell you what works, and I have heard about the Titleist ball fitting process focused around short game needs. Interesting - thanks for your thoughts. Quote Taylormade Stealth Plus Driver 9, Oban Devotion 45-03 | Callaway Paradym Triple Diamond 3 + 5 Wood, Oban Revenge 65-03 | Mizuno HiFli 16.5 2 Iron | Titleist T200 4-GW Irons, KBS Tour 110 R | Titleist Vokey Design SM9 Chrome SW & LW (54/12D, 60/12D) | Odyssey Versa Seven Putter | Titleist Pro V1x | Srixon Tour Staff Bag The Open Staff Bag 2022 | Clicgear Model 4.0 Buggy | Bushnell Tour V6 Shift Rangefinder | Golf Pride MCC ALIGN (Standard) Grips | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylorJudd Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I would agree with @cnosil, the balls fit into the off the rack purchase and retailers love uninformed consumers. Club fittings are still not widespread across the industry, and surely the ball will follow slowly behind clubs. cnosil 1 Quote I like golf. You should like golf. If life is tough, play more golf! Callaway Paradym Triple Diamond 10.5, Graphite Design Tour AD-MJ 6x Titleist TSr3 18 Degree, Graphite Design Tour Ad-DI 7x Takomo 301CB's, KBS Tours 120S Vokey SM8 48 10F, 52 08F, 56 08M, 60 08M Odyssey O-Works Jailbird Mini, Versa Scheme, 17" Fatso 3.0 Grip, 40" Jazz Tacoma Cart Bag Titleist Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Perhaps its because I live in Florida where OEM reps love to roam in the later winter/early spring but there are ball fittings galore here. What is very difficult to find is an agnostic ball fitting - one where the fitter will try and find the best ball for a players game. Also there is a lot of argument about what's most important in a ball. I'd say the most important thing is to pick one and play that one exclusively. You can adapt the shots that you hit to the ball that you are playing so long as it's consistent. It's even better if the ball fits your game but if you are at least using the same ball all the time you will be better off in the long run. Quote Driver: Taylor Made Xi10 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 R flex - 44.25 Fairways: Ping G410 5, 7, 9 wood Alta CB red 65 R flex Hybrid: Ping G410 26 degree Alta CB Red 70 R flex Irons: Ping G430 7-PW, 45, 50 Alta CB black 65 soft R flex Wedges: Ping 195 S54, E58 Wedges and irons are - 1/2” and one degree flat Putter: Sacks Parente Duke 32.5” Ball: Titleist Pro VI or Callaway Chrome Soft X ls While not at the same time I was fit for every club in my bag as well as the Pro VI ball. I use the chrome soft x ls on my league course. It has much softer softer greens than the club that I belong to. I’m on a mission to shoot my age - lifetime lowest round is 66 and I’m currently 67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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