ZACHFREITAS Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I wanted to create this thread in-case any Arccos product managers are listening. Please add more if you have any ideas. This product is pretty great so I'm not sure there is a lot more that can be added but... I'm sure there are others with better ideas. Wish List: 1. Allow any shot to be assigned a chip. I sometimes like to use my 7 iron for greenside shots like these so I want to be able to easily assign them as such so I don't have to come back later and correct them. 2. Club probability. Tell me which clubs I hit most consistently. This will tell me which I need to work with. Albie1014, GolfSpy_KFT, GolfSpy_APH and 2 others 4 1 Quote Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Make Android version better. Apple UI is far improved over Android, to the point because I am a Android user I ditched Arccos. ZACHFREITAS 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinnman Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 I’ve asked them to use EZlocator data so no one has to mark the hole. Marking the hole is something I never do as it’s just too much of a pain. GolfSpy_KFT, sman3115 and KC Golf 3 Quote Driver: Cobra Aerojet 9* Ventus Red 5S shaft 3W: Cobra Aerojet Max Cobra LTDx 3H-5H 7-PW Callaway Rogue ST Max Elevate 85 steel shafts Wedges: Cleveland CBX zipcore steel 46*, 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: Odyssey Tri-hot 5K Rossie Ball: Titleist ProV1 or AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinnman Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 One more…how many times have you putted from just off the green. Now you have a 3 putt…how about adding in the Texas wedge. sman3115 1 Quote Driver: Cobra Aerojet 9* Ventus Red 5S shaft 3W: Cobra Aerojet Max Cobra LTDx 3H-5H 7-PW Callaway Rogue ST Max Elevate 85 steel shafts Wedges: Cleveland CBX zipcore steel 46*, 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: Odyssey Tri-hot 5K Rossie Ball: Titleist ProV1 or AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Hopkins Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Definitely be able to designate a shot as a chip, I chipped in with my hybrid from just off the green in a round yesterday and didn’t think anything of it, and when I checked out strokes gained it was all out of wack between approach and chipping because of it. Also, being able to designate a shot as a punch out, so you can see your recovery shot “success rate” ZACHFREITAS 1 Quote Blake Hopkins Ping G430 Driver, Titleist Tsi2 3 wood, Titleist H2 3 hybrid, Titleist t300 irons (4-gw), Vokey 54 wedge, Cleveland RTX Zipcore 60 wedge, Taylormade Spider putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phitaumatthew Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 @Blake Hopkinsthis is what we need more than anything else. I wish we could designate shot types - punch, chip, etc. Feel like those stats would be great and would also help make the real stats more representative. Also, wish they had specific types on penalty shots. ZACHFREITAS 1 Quote AP3 - 4 - PW Vokey 50 & 54 Sim 2 Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooby Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 19 hours ago, ZACHFREITAS said: I wanted to create this thread in-case any Arccos product managers are listening. Please add more if you have any ideas. This product is pretty great so I'm not sure there is a lot more that can be added but... I'm sure there are others with better ideas. Wish List: 1. Allow any shot to be assigned a chip. I sometimes like to use my 7 iron for greenside shots like these so I want to be able to easily assign them as such so I don't have to come back later and correct them. 2. Club probability. Tell me which clubs I hit most consistently. This will tell me which I need to work with. I may have to copy this thread and concept for Garmin. Garmin has the censors and the app but lacks depth. I feel like it should be quite easy for them to at least have a product that competes with Arccos/Shotscope. Quote Driver: Aerojet LS (9.0) BRNR Mini Driver (13.5) Ai Smoke Max 5 Wood (18) or Apex X Forged Utility 2 iron (18) Pro 225 (4-PW) 52|08F , 56|12D , 60|10S , SM9 Jet Black Studio Design 2 Ball: Still Searching for My Perfect Gamer Previously Tested: BirdieBall 2-In-1 Putting/Hitting Mat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZACHFREITAS Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, phitaumatthew said: @Blake Hopkinsthis is what we need more than anything else. I wish we could designate shot types - punch, chip, etc. Feel like those stats would be great and would also help make the real stats more representative. Also, wish they had specific types on penalty shots. I love your ideas of shot and penalty types. Then you would know if you hit water or went OB. Z phitaumatthew and KC Golf 2 Quote Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Golf Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I wish it allowed you to add or delete a club during your round if the sensors are not working on a specific club or you brought a different wedge or driving iron for that round but forgot to add it before you started the round. Quote TSR 3 9.0 Autoflex 405x - Official Tester 2024 TSi 3 15.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff Utility 2 Iron 18.0 - Nippon NS Pro 650GH Stiff / TS3 21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff 4 - 9 101T Irons - KBS Tour Lite Stiff - Official Tester 2023 Vokey SM9 46 F - 10 BV105 Stiff Vokey SM9 52 F - 12 Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Vokey Forged (Japan) 56 M - 10 DG S200 MG3 60 - 12 - Nippon NS Modus3 Tour 105 Stiff Champions Choice Newport 2+ Button Back - 35” / Pistolini Plus Z-Star Diamond Players 4 bag Official Tester - 2021 & Current Club Sensor User Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Golf Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I wish the recommendations from the AI caddy allowed you to get an option that wasn’t driver ie. FW and then longer iron. It seems the AI is obsessed with driver even if the length I hit means a FW May be better, etc. AI doesn’t seem to take into account narrow fairways. Quote TSR 3 9.0 Autoflex 405x - Official Tester 2024 TSi 3 15.0 GD Tour AD - DI 6S Stiff Utility 2 Iron 18.0 - Nippon NS Pro 650GH Stiff / TS3 21 Hybrid Tensei AV Blue 65 HY Stiff 4 - 9 101T Irons - KBS Tour Lite Stiff - Official Tester 2023 Vokey SM9 46 F - 10 BV105 Stiff Vokey SM9 52 F - 12 Nippon NS Pro 950 Stiff Vokey Forged (Japan) 56 M - 10 DG S200 MG3 60 - 12 - Nippon NS Modus3 Tour 105 Stiff Champions Choice Newport 2+ Button Back - 35” / Pistolini Plus Z-Star Diamond Players 4 bag Official Tester - 2021 & Current Club Sensor User Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffleHouseTour Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Finish the “Beta” website. It’s past time to have a good desktop website. offer some sort of export to share with coaches…. I’m always screenshooting my phone screens All future sensors/links etc should be black/grey… no more green rings around the club. Quote Walking ahead of my BagBoy QuadXL w Alphard eWheels Driver: Callaway Mavrik SubZero 9* Neutral w stock Evenflow Riptide R flex shaft 3W Titelist TS2 15* Draw w Tensei Blue R flex 3H, 4H Cobra One Length F9 Speedback hybrids (1”short) w Fujikura Atmos R flex shaft 5I-GW Cobra Forged TEC Black One Length (1”short, 2* flat) KBS 90 R flex shafts 56, 60 Cobra King MIM One Length Black (1” short) KBS HiRev2.0 125 S flex shafts ER7 or Scotty Futura X - 35” OnCore Elixr (lemon or lime) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boneill278 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Add distance rings to the GPS screen. The Grint app does this and it's so helpful to be able to see distance rings. Really the GPS and app functions inside the Grint app is so much better. So many times if the Tee box is near the last green the app will pickup my driver after I've already finished the last hole. Then it's impossible to just delete on shot you have to delete multiple shots to get the misplaced driver off the last hole. For sure finish the website. It stinks to have to go back and forth. Quote Golf nut. Can't get enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowmonkeys1310 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) I'd love some insight on how they calculate strokes gained with different clubs. I like that I can see a number but I have no insight into how that calculation is performed. Someone already mentioned being able to flag a shot as a "recovery shot" and I think that's a good idea. Some way to evaluate accuracy when there are fairway bunker in the middle of the fairway. The same goes for "grass bunkers" which are common around me. These bunkers are in the middle of the fairway so my drive was technically straight (not a left or right miss). The reality is I probably missed either short or long relative to my target but I don't have that option. Not sure if there's a simple workaround for this but seeing a left or right miss in the stats doesn't feel appropriate to me. Edit: Saw someone mention the Grint. The Grint does incorporate maps of the slopes on greens. Having that as an option would be great. Especially when it comes to recommending distances and understanding how a shot is really playing. Example would be a sever false front that makes the recommended shot a little deeper into the green than it would have been otherwise. Edited August 23, 2023 by Snowmonkeys1310 Had another idea Quote Driver - G425 LST 9° (@ 8°) | Shaft: Ping Tour 2.0 Black X-flex (1.0" short) FW - G425 LST 14.5° (@ 13°) | Shaft: Alta CB 65 X-flex (1.0" short) FW - S IM2 HL 16.5° | Tensei Blue 65 X-flex (1.5" short) 4H - G430 22° (@ 23°) | Tensei CK Pro Blue 80 TX-flex (0.5" short) 5-PW - Pro 223 | Nippon NS Pro Modus Tour3 115 X-flex GW - SM9 - 50° 08/F | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 SW - SM9 - 54° 12/D | Dynamic Gold S200 LW - Glide 4.0 - 58° 06/T | Ping Z-Z115 Wedge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebakerjam Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Search function for previous rounds - I play public courses exclusively, as I want variety week to week. Having to scroll through all my rounds to see how I did the last time I played a course is a tremendous waste of time Strategy building - instead of having Caddie’s ai determine what I should do, it would be nice if I could build my own plan of attack on a course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfinguru Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) All great suggestions so far! Arccos, please, for the love of god, finish the "Beta" dashboard already! How long has that banner been there? Seriously, like two years now? In addition to the proposals laid out above, I'd really like to be able to drill down into my putting stats beyond just the 2', 10', 20' and 30' options. Give me a slider so I can dial in and look at specific ranges or at least break it down into smaller chunks. How about dispersion maps for all clubs? Why only driver and 3w? Shot scope is far and away better at a lot of these things. Finally, fix the damn missing shots thing. I've tried the Link in just about every wearable location possible and it just really doesn't matter. (And NO, I'm not putting a phone in my front pocket!) Every round it's missed fairway shots, missed putts, extra putts, carrying over shots from the last hole. It's always a shocker to look down and see an 11 or some crazy score posted for a hole only to drill in and see all the shots from the last two holes combined on the previous hole. Then the tedium of having the clean that up on the spot. Edited August 24, 2023 by surfinguru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marfau23 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 The main issue I have with the round preview option is the club recommendations. It is not uncommon for the recommendation to say 5i, pw, 60’ to get to a par 4 (no water, hazards, ob, etc). Can’t imagine that would have a lower SG value than actually clubbing up to a mid iron then chipping if you miss the green but Arccos continually suggests laying up in these situations. Would be worth another look! Quote TSR3 RBZ Stage 2 3 wood 913H 3 hybrid 910H 4 hybrid Taylormade P7MC irons (5-PW) Vokey Wedges Odyssey Toulon Atlanta putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brjannbrekkan Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 On 8/22/2023 at 6:25 AM, phitaumatthew said: @Blake Hopkinsthis is what we need more than anything else. I wish we could designate shot types - punch, chip, etc. Feel like those stats would be great and would also help make the real stats more representative. Also, wish they had specific types on penalty shots. While i agree with need for the punch outs as the bad SG should be assigned to the shot that took me into trouble and not the punch out. These short punch outs dont affect the distance calculations for those clubs just like chips around green , anything that isnt within 50-90th percentile of distance on each club isnt included in distance calculations. Quote —- Paradym 9* Ventus Blue 7x, 44 inches Rogue Max 3,5 Tensei White 3 P790 Nippon Ghost , 3,4 Adams Ideas Pro hybrids 4-AW Srixon ZX7 , Nippon 120x 54 Mid, 58 Low Cleveland RTX Odyssey White Hot Versa 7s, 33.5 inches Bridgestone XS Arccos Golf , Motocaddy M7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brjannbrekkan Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 On 8/23/2023 at 7:56 AM, Snowmonkeys1310 said: I'd love some insight on how they calculate strokes gained with different clubs. I like that I can see a number but I have no insight into how that calculation is performed. Been a user and beta tester of Arccos for many years. SG addition was a big add a few years ago and their calculations are no different than the book "Every Shot Counts" vby Mark Brody. Arccos wrote a good article when they launched SG: What is Strokes Gained? – Arccos Golf Quote —- Paradym 9* Ventus Blue 7x, 44 inches Rogue Max 3,5 Tensei White 3 P790 Nippon Ghost , 3,4 Adams Ideas Pro hybrids 4-AW Srixon ZX7 , Nippon 120x 54 Mid, 58 Low Cleveland RTX Odyssey White Hot Versa 7s, 33.5 inches Bridgestone XS Arccos Golf , Motocaddy M7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brjannbrekkan Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Long time user and tester of Arccos and the big things for me - Web dashboard has been de-prioritized in development. For us that want to analyze our trends we need the dashboard. - Rescue shots need to be marked as such so SG is applied correctly to the faulting shot that took us into the position and not on a great punch out. Other shots gained systems like Decade and Golfmetrics do this much better. - Post round editing capabilities to edit approach shots that hit green and putts in relation to flag - right, left, short, long. This isnt critical for SG calculations but will help golfers that want to analyze trends. Quote —- Paradym 9* Ventus Blue 7x, 44 inches Rogue Max 3,5 Tensei White 3 P790 Nippon Ghost , 3,4 Adams Ideas Pro hybrids 4-AW Srixon ZX7 , Nippon 120x 54 Mid, 58 Low Cleveland RTX Odyssey White Hot Versa 7s, 33.5 inches Bridgestone XS Arccos Golf , Motocaddy M7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankdog Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 #1 - Finish the beta version already! #2 - The “personal bests” don’t register on 9 hole rounds. #3 - Easy way to differentiate stats by season or some type of compare two date ranges function. I’d like to compare last year to this year, etc. #4 - Add wedge icons for pairing 48, 46, 44 degrees as well as chipper. I like to use the x and xx clubs for experimenting. Quote G425 Max driver BRNR 2.0 mini driver G425 SFT 3 wood G425 3 and 5 hybrid B21 irons 6-PW CBX Zipcore 48 and CBX2 52/58 Wedges 2 ball Ten Tour lined Tour BX ball Arccos Caddie with Apple Watch Hyperflex shoes Chiller Hybrid Stand Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phitaumatthew Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Has anyone used Arccos with an Apple Watch? If so, how accurate is it? I returned my link as it kept missing shots but would prefer to not have my phone in my pocket. If the Apple Watch is just as good, would rather use that. Quote AP3 - 4 - PW Vokey 50 & 54 Sim 2 Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sman3115 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1) make the putting better. I know they keep working on it, but I still miss a lot of putts. 2) be able to use putter from off the green and not count it as a putt 3) about 50% of the time the Caddie AI will just say "error try again later" I also will get different club recommendations between the main app using distance and the AI on the same shot 4) optimize the app to use less battery and data. The app kills my battery and data even with the course downloaded 5) just make it easier to get distances/move around on the map. The UI just seems to fight me when I am trying to get distances on the map Quote Rogue ST Max LS 9* LZ Blue Designed in SD 60g Stiff-Flex JPX-850 5W 16* Motore Tour Spec 6.3 Stiff-Flex 0317X Gen4 2-Hybrid 17* Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 75g Stiff-Flex or 0211 3-Hybrid 19* Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 75g Stiff-Flex Pro 223 4-Iron Nippon Shafts Pro Modus3 Tour 105g Stiff-Flex MP-20 MMC 5-PW LA Golf Tour AXS Blue 105g Stiff-Flex Pro 223 GW 52* True Temper Dynamic Gold S300 105g Stiff-Flex MG3 56* SB12 & 60* SB10 True Temper Dynamic Gold S400W O-Works White Hot Big-T Blade counterbalanced Across the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueberry_Squishie Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Biggest thing for me - the sensors need a redesign. They have too high of a failure rate (according to my interactions with Arccos support, mine had about a 40% fail rate within 6 months), and in the redesign improve the reliability of connection between the sensors and the managing device. Quote Cobra F9 9.5° (Hzrdus Yellow X) Cobra Speedzone 15° (Tensei Blue X) Srixon H85 19° (Hzrdus Black 85 6.0) Mizuno MP20 MMC 4-PW (KBS $ Taper 120S) Mizuno T20 51°, 55°, 59° (KBS $ Taper 120S) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 34" Srixon ZStar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankdog Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, phitaumatthew said: Has anyone used Arccos with an Apple Watch? If so, how accurate is it? I returned my link as it kept missing shots but would prefer to not have my phone in my pocket. If the Apple Watch is just as good, would rather use that. I use my Apple Watch 6 with Arcoss all the time and it works great. Edited August 29, 2023 by Shankdog Quote G425 Max driver BRNR 2.0 mini driver G425 SFT 3 wood G425 3 and 5 hybrid B21 irons 6-PW CBX Zipcore 48 and CBX2 52/58 Wedges 2 ball Ten Tour lined Tour BX ball Arccos Caddie with Apple Watch Hyperflex shoes Chiller Hybrid Stand Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZACHFREITAS Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 On 8/21/2023 at 11:59 AM, ZACHFREITAS said: I wanted to create this thread in-case any Arccos product managers are listening. Please add more if you have any ideas. This product is pretty great so I'm not sure there is a lot more that can be added but... I'm sure there are others with better ideas. Wish List: 1. Allow any shot to be assigned a chip. I sometimes like to use my 7 iron for greenside shots like these so I want to be able to easily assign them as such so I don't have to come back later and correct them. 2. Club probability. Tell me which clubs I hit most consistently. This will tell me which I need to work with. 3. One other wish list item is I wish Arccos track my golf round as an apple workout. Similar to the way Golfshot does. This way I can see my heart rate through out the round. This way I track my steps. 4. I also wish Arccos wound track the weather temp and humidity for my rounds played on my scorecard. Quote Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZACHFREITAS Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 6 hours ago, phitaumatthew said: Has anyone used Arccos with an Apple Watch? If so, how accurate is it? I returned my link as it kept missing shots but would prefer to not have my phone in my pocket. If the Apple Watch is just as good, would rather use that. So far I’m really happy with my experience with my Apple Watch. Keep in mind that I have the Ultra which could explain why battery life is not an issue for me. Quote Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phitaumatthew Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, ZACHFREITAS said: So far I’m really happy with my experience with my Apple Watch. Keep in mind that I have the Ultra which could explain why battery life is not an issue for me. Thanks so much. Yeah, I am only going to use it for this, so I may end up just getting a used Apple 6 or watch. Or wait for the fall release of the new watches and get the used 7. Quote AP3 - 4 - PW Vokey 50 & 54 Sim 2 Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 I tested the Arccos system last year for MGS, and I still have it on all my clubs. After using it for the better part of a season, I have a few things I would like to see fixed. 1. Echoing others, being able to designate a shot as a chip or a positional shot/punch out. Arccos thinks I hit my 4i terribly because of all the <100 yard shots with it. 2. The caddie suggestions are terrible. I played a round last year where it didn't recommend driver once. 475 yard par 5 (which is reachable for me), nah hit 5i-6i-GW. 440 yard par 4? Nope, hit two hybrids, leaving me ~30 yard wedge and accept bogey. 3. Recalculate SG for putting. Any round with more than 30 putts is a negative SG. Considering I'm a 6, and I have it set to show against a 6, I have serious doubts the majority of players at my level are averaging less than 30 putts per round. KC Golf and MattF 2 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinnman Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) Last 2 rounds I played not one shot registered. Ridiculous that I had to put in every shot during the walk from hole to hole. I love the product when it works and believe they could make this much better. The question is will they or do I go to a different platform that just runs off my Apple Watch 8. Edited August 30, 2023 by Shinnman Spelling correction and additional comments. KC Golf 1 Quote Driver: Cobra Aerojet 9* Ventus Red 5S shaft 3W: Cobra Aerojet Max Cobra LTDx 3H-5H 7-PW Callaway Rogue ST Max Elevate 85 steel shafts Wedges: Cleveland CBX zipcore steel 46*, 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: Odyssey Tri-hot 5K Rossie Ball: Titleist ProV1 or AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinnman Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 3rd round in a row nothing registered by the link or the app. Quote Driver: Cobra Aerojet 9* Ventus Red 5S shaft 3W: Cobra Aerojet Max Cobra LTDx 3H-5H 7-PW Callaway Rogue ST Max Elevate 85 steel shafts Wedges: Cleveland CBX zipcore steel 46*, 50*, 54*, 58* Putter: Odyssey Tri-hot 5K Rossie Ball: Titleist ProV1 or AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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