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Is there a difference between face balanced and contour balanced putters? or is the difference only with contour balanced that the shaft is in the middle?

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Christof

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25 minutes ago, Christof said:

Good day

Is there a difference between face balanced and contour balanced putters? or is the difference only with contour balanced that the shaft is in the middle?

Never heard of countour balanced; there was a company called contour putters pre 2010.     Face balanced is simply a measure of toe hang where the face points to the sky when the putter is balanced on its balance point.  

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32 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Never heard of countour balanced; there was a company called contour putters pre 2010.     Face balanced is simply a measure of toe hang where the face points to the sky when the putter is balanced on its balance point.  

I wrote it wrong, I mean Counterbalance.

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Just now, Christof said:

I wrote it wrong, I mean Counterbalance.

a counterbalanced putter is where you add additional weight to the butt end of the club.  It has nothing to do with toe hang/face balance.   A putter can be counterbalanced by replacing the grip with  heavier grip,  using an add on weight like tour lock, or the grip weights in a superstroke grip.  Sometimes players will even extend the overall length of the putter by a few inches, but that isn't required to counterbalance a putter.  

Generalizing, counter balancing will make the head feel lighter and part of the marketing is that it will improve your stroke. 

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2 hours ago, cnosil said:

a counterbalanced putter is where you add additional weight to the butt end of the club.  It has nothing to do with toe hang/face balance.   A putter can be counterbalanced by replacing the grip with  heavier grip,  using an add on weight like tour lock, or the grip weights in a superstroke grip.  Sometimes players will even extend the overall length of the putter by a few inches, but that isn't required to counterbalance a putter.  

Generalizing, counter balancing will make the head feel lighter and part of the marketing is that it will improve your stroke. 

yes I was on the internet looking at putters came out at Wilson the INFINITE SOUTH SIDE PUTTER, I have been googling behind counterbalanced putter meaning, not really clear to me, I thought had to do with the shaft in the middle. I did read what you say, When I went to compare with the INFINITE SOUTH SIDE PUTTER not clear to me, but understand it a bit better, wilson uses a heavier grip. But install another grip that is lighter then the counterbalanced effect is gone.

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31 minutes ago, Christof said:

yes I was on the internet looking at putters came out at Wilson the INFINITE SOUTH SIDE PUTTER, I have been googling behind counterbalanced putter meaning, not really clear to me, I thought had to do with the shaft in the middle. I did read what you say, When I went to compare with the INFINITE SOUTH SIDE PUTTER not clear to me, but understand it a bit better, wilson uses a heavier grip. But install another grip that is lighter then the counterbalanced effect is gone.

Nope,  nothing to do with a putter being center shafted.  A center shafted putter can be "traditional" or counter balanced just like a plumbers neck can be either.  

Per the website with the putter you mentioned:  

Oversized, 104-gram grip moves the balance point closer to the hands for a smoother, more controlled putting stroke

There isn't an industry standard on what is considered a normal weight grip nor what is considered counterbalanced.  But if you put a lighter grip on the putter you reduce the counterbalance by lowering the balance point.  Put a butt weight or a heavier grip you add more counterbalance and move the balance point higher.     

 

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On 2/19/2024 at 11:50 PM, cnosil said:

Nope,  nothing to do with a putter being center shafted.  A center shafted putter can be "traditional" or counter balanced just like a plumbers neck can be either.  

Per the website with the putter you mentioned:  

Oversized, 104-gram grip moves the balance point closer to the hands for a smoother, more controlled putting stroke

There isn't an industry standard on what is considered a normal weight grip nor what is considered counterbalanced.  But if you put a lighter grip on the putter you reduce the counterbalance by lowering the balance point.  Put a butt weight or a heavier grip you add more counterbalance and move the balance point higher.     

 

Hey Consil

Okay that's well explained.

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Christof

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:wilson_staff_small: D9: 5 en PW; KBS Max Ultralight steel

:taylormade-small: Stealth F.W.7 21° and F.W.3 15° ventus red 5 regular

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