Bluesman57 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Does anyone have any experience with black coated irons? I'm looking at the Honma Beres Black, which look fantastic new. But I'm concerned that the black surface will wear off, and of course, unevenly, which would leave me with some pretty garish-looking two-toned irons sometime down the road. The Honma web site states that the black finish is applied using Ion Plating, which itself is a form.of Physical.Vapor Deposit. All I could find about these is on watch sites and metallurgy sites. Way too much chemistry for me! So I'm counting on any real world experience that any of youse guys can share. Tanks! Quote G430 Max HL Max Driver G430 Max HL 5- and 7-Woods G430 Max HL 4-Hybrid T300 6-GW Irons Glide 3.0 52 and 58 degree Wedges Vokey SM9 56 degree Sand Wedge BB-8W Putter ProV1x Balls Semper ubi, sub ubi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 34 minutes ago, Bluesman57 said: Does anyone have any experience with black coated irons? But I'm concerned that the black surface will wear off, and of course, unevenly, which would leave me with some pretty garish-looking two-toned irons sometime down the road. Any coating on irons is going to wear; even chrome plating wears. Some are fine with the worn look and others aren't. The wear will come from the ball and the abrasiveness of the dirt on the courses you play. I would suggest you search some of the used club sites (ebay, 2nd swing, global golf, etc) for used sets to see the potential wear and judge if it is something you would be okay with. Here is one on ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/134953401593?itmmeta=01HRJ50YCN64DH0VS64FBVANPW&hash=item1f6bd97cf9:g:LLcAAOSwf-1l3H3g&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4J4KuZ1IYO72hvWdUahmcAFy3KyTti1mM05AICY5wxSoVEw0O5kCdteANw%2FGBoSD3blYGlZ2mPmtrqXT%2Bg%2BpVVTUOTDthXLkRYUruqwXU13WmGvMY0RDemngWdGJZPJQY20QuwkL9uajb9DNHb7%2BsaIcmBuj%2F4VFWT0K%2F1zPubi8XFc4lHV60Muh6398kL3YLyoFG1m4medKUsbnfyVJMvXUwkACJbAEmj1Kv%2BIgYKyGdM%2BAbksBzMeT87Zn72Ej%2FxHy8JX0E0BqmJ8wseJSWAniTgRUT0MkU5lNs2Z8AOLh|tkp%3ABFBMzOaDxcRj brogies, Dead Solid Bogey and Bluesman57 1 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: XCG7 Beta 15* w/Fujikura Fuel Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesman57 Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 Great idea, thanks! Those clubs look a bit gnarly, especially the wedges. Quote G430 Max HL Max Driver G430 Max HL 5- and 7-Woods G430 Max HL 4-Hybrid T300 6-GW Irons Glide 3.0 52 and 58 degree Wedges Vokey SM9 56 degree Sand Wedge BB-8W Putter ProV1x Balls Semper ubi, sub ubi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 PVD finishes normally don't have a long long lasting finish. It is usually the DPD (I think that is what it is called) that is more ingrained in the metal vs a cover. Unfortunately no matter what all finishes fade to some extent. Cleaning and being absolutely picky about it all will help it last longer. cnosil and Nick_D 2 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 I’ve played plenty of irons over my years and for me Miura’s QPQ(QuenchPourQuench) had the best wear followed closely by the DLC(diamond like coating-Maltby DBM, Cobra FT). PVD will wear fairly quickly depending on soil type. cnosil, GolfSpy_APH and Nick_D 3 Quote What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s Wedges: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft Putters: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkeleybob Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 I’ve had a black utility iron from Sub 70 for a little while. I can post a picture tomorrow when it’s daylight. There’s too much reflection from regular indoor lighting to give an accurate image. Quote WITB 2024 DRIVER AEROJET 10.5° | FAIRWAY ROGUE ST MAX 3/15° HYBRID G410 21° | UTILITY 699 V2 U 5/23° IRONS 699 V2 6-PW WEDGES CBX 2 50°, 54°, 58° PUTTER KING GRANDSPORT 35 BALL MODEL | PRO WHITE/BLUE ICE BAG 3.5 LS | PUSHCART RV1S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkeleybob Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 I’ve had this club for a year, golfed more in the last six months than the first. DLC coated black finish. cnosil and Bluesman57 2 Quote WITB 2024 DRIVER AEROJET 10.5° | FAIRWAY ROGUE ST MAX 3/15° HYBRID G410 21° | UTILITY 699 V2 U 5/23° IRONS 699 V2 6-PW WEDGES CBX 2 50°, 54°, 58° PUTTER KING GRANDSPORT 35 BALL MODEL | PRO WHITE/BLUE ICE BAG 3.5 LS | PUSHCART RV1S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 13 hours ago, GolfSpy_BNG said: I’ve played plenty of irons over my years and for me Miura’s QPQ(QuenchPourQuench) had the best wear followed closely by the DLC(diamond like coating-Maltby DBM, Cobra FT). PVD will wear fairly quickly depending on soil type. Thank you! DBM was the one I was thinking of. DPD is a shipping company here in Switzerland. GolfSpy_BNG 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTH1 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 I had a set of Callaway Razr Black irons years ago, wear on the face was noticeable, but not excessive. Quote TSR2 driver 10 Cobra ltd fairways 3 and 7 Cobra forged tec irons 5-P Callaway wedges 54 and 58 TaylorMade del monte 7 face balanced putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Beach Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 I had a set of Ping G710's I gamed them for a while, sold them to my son in law and he gamed them for over a year and they still look very good. I still have a set of Black Big Bertha's I keep around for my guests, they are fading slightly to grey on the soles. Quote Driver Ai Smoke Max 9* set at 8* 3 FW Ai Smoke HW Ai Smoke Hybrid G430 Irons Callaway Apex 21 Forged CB Putter Ping Answer 2 PLD Wedges Titleist Vokey SM9 56M and 60S Ball, Vice Pro-Plus Handicap 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesman57 Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 (edited) Thanks for the great replies. One brand that I'm looking at is the Honma Beres Black. I found a used set Golf Partner USA on https://golfpartnerusa.com/products/honma-iron-set-beres-black-stiffregular-3s-armrq-mx-7-pieces?variant=41131787518012 and zoomed in on a picture. The faces don't look too bad, but the sole of the A wedge looks positively sand blasted. Edited March 10 by Bluesman57 Typo Quote G430 Max HL Max Driver G430 Max HL 5- and 7-Woods G430 Max HL 4-Hybrid T300 6-GW Irons Glide 3.0 52 and 58 degree Wedges Vokey SM9 56 degree Sand Wedge BB-8W Putter ProV1x Balls Semper ubi, sub ubi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesman57 Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 On 3/10/2024 at 5:21 AM, berkeleybob said: I’ve had this club for a year, golfed more in the last six months than the first. DLC coated black finish. Thank you for posting the pictures. That doesn't look bad at all. Quote G430 Max HL Max Driver G430 Max HL 5- and 7-Woods G430 Max HL 4-Hybrid T300 6-GW Irons Glide 3.0 52 and 58 degree Wedges Vokey SM9 56 degree Sand Wedge BB-8W Putter ProV1x Balls Semper ubi, sub ubi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.