Indy_Oz Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 On 5/7/2024 at 10:21 AM, Shrek74 said: As I just celebrated my 50th b-day (although celebrate might be a strong word), I'm starting to think differently about my bag make-up than I did just a few short years ago. I had a PXG fitting a few days ago and will have an OEM-neutral fitting next Monday. Those fittings will help me determine what the proper bag make-up should be along with the best options to fill those slots. One of those slots in particular is up for debate, as I take a long-hard look at my game and my needs - the 5 iron. Looking at my Shot Scope data over the 7 rounds I had it for at the end of last year, I hit the 5 iron 15 times. I bet I hit it well, less than 5. The other 10? Thin, topped, and fat are the best way to describe them. Consistency goes out the window with that long iron for me, and has for some time. I keep thinking I'll figure it out, especially with the changes I've made in my swing to help with good contact and proper swing mechanics. But is it worth continuing to struggle with it and allowing bad shots to happen 2/3 of the time while I continue to work on my swing for a fix that may never fully come? I'm thinking no. So I'm looking at a complete reset of the top of my bag and that transition point into the irons along with the iron set make-up itself. The main point being that I'm looking to dump the 5 iron and replace it with something more useful, but more importantly more consistent. So my question to you all is this - do you still use the 5 iron, and if not what have you replaced it with? Utility club, hybrid, or high-lofted fairway wood? Let me know your thoughts and experiences around this part of your bag. I'd love to get more thoughts than just my own. Yes to a 5-iron, but it's a P790 and so is 23.5* loft and therefore closer to a traditional 4-iron. It's my 200-210yd club. I carry a 3H and 7W in place of longer irons. I use the 3H (delofted to 18*) more as a fairway finder off the tee and for recovery shots and hitting low under trees. Shrek74 and William P 2 Quote 2024 WITB: Driver: Ai Smoke Max 9* (@8*) w. Denali 60g 6.5 (XS) FW woods: TSR2+ 13* '2W' w. Mitsubishi Tensei White 75X & TSR2 21* 7W w. Mitsubishi Tensei White 75X Hybrid: Stealth+ 3H (@18*) w. Hzrdus Smoke RDX Red 80/6.5 Irons: 5i-PW: '17 P790 w. Tour C-Taper Lite 115X (Currently Testing: 4i-PW: 2024 P770 w. Rifle 6.0 (+1/4")) Wedges: 50/09 MG4; 56/12 MG4TW Raw; SM9 60/04L Putter: Phantom X7 Ball: TP5x // Chrome Tour // Maxfli Tour X Other: . Gogogo Sport V-Pro rangefinder; Woode Hybrid Stand Bag; Nitron push cart. 2024 Tests: Callaway Whitebox Test- Chrome Tour & Tour X Balls 2024 Sqairz Velo Shoe 2024 Taylormade P770 Irons (ongoing) "...pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, 'cause there's bugger all down here on Earth!"- Eric Idle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloadieGolf40 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 I've gone through a lot of changes at the top of my bag the past 2 years as I've gotten better and more consistent, but also realized my limitations and what can actually help me, rather than what I "think I should be using" with my club composition. I've tried driving irons only to realize I didn't have swing speed or consistent enough to hit it regularly. I then tried 3 hybrid and just wasn't consistent enough with that either, then found an Epic Max 5W, which I LOVE! Then moved onto the 4 iron spot (21°) and tried hybrid, which isn't bad, but felt I wasn't getting enough height to hold greens as well as I should, so I searched a few months for a reasonably priced 7W and finally landed one (Paradym). Still getting used to it, but A LOT easier to hit consistently and get down the fairway. Now, I'm going back and forth between keeping my 5i or getting a 5Hybrid. My swing has gotten better and not sure if I want to keep fooling around with different clubs, or just stick with 5i and work to get better at hitting it. Shrek74 1 Quote Callaway Epic Speed 9°-PX iM10 6.0 Titleist TS2 15-16.5° 3W - PX Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0 Callaway Epic Max 18° 5W - PX iM10 5.5 Titleist TS2 20° 4H - PX Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0 Titleist T300 5-PW - True Temper AMT Red Regular Cleveland Zipcore 48.10 Vokey SM8 54.12 Cleveland RTX4 60.06 Odyssey 2-Ball Blade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark In Land O Lakes Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Replaced by a 5-hybrid. Javs and Shrek74 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Caracappa Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 I still carry a 5 iron although I gave up on a 4 iron years ago. mY 5 iron is a TM P790 and Its the easierst to hit 5 iron I have ever had. Has the loft of the old 4 . I replaced the 4 iron with a 4 hybrid. Two years ago I repalced the 4 hybrid with a 7 wood and its the best move I made. So much better than a hybrid. Easier to hit and goes straighter and higher than a hybrid. The issue is that I can only carry the 5 175-180 and the 7 wood can go 190 - 200 so have a gap in the 180-190 range Shrek74 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Lau76 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 About to turn 48 and I still have a 4i and 5i in the bag. The avg. distance for my 5i is about 190-200yrds and I hit it pretty consistently. My friends all have hybrids and I'm wondering how much of a difference it would make for me. Shrek74 1 Quote C-Lau76 TaylorMade Sim2 Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Txrayado Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Im still carrying my 3-5 irons 3 and 5 woods. When I bought my clubs Hybrids were just coming out. I might eventually make the switch, but that won’t be until I make a complete fitted switch C-Lau76 and Shrek74 2 Quote Dad of two girls playing and practicing as much as I can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Txrayado Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Im still carrying my 3-5 irons 3 and 5 woods. When I bought my clubs Hybrids were just coming out. I might eventually make the switch, but that won’t be until I make a complete fitted switch Quote Dad of two girls playing and practicing as much as I can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstarling Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 I do still carry a 5 iron and use it regularly. I do not use it as much as my 4 hybrid but have not looked into replacing the 5 iron with a hybrid. I still like the feel and flight of the 5 iron. Shrek74 1 Quote Jeffrey Starling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KG221 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 So since age seems to be part of the topic, I'll be 58 in a few days, yippie.... Now with that being said, I carry a 4CB iron and 5 thru PW MB. Theoretically could I make my life easier moving into a 7W or 9W, probably. But I think, if I just got out of my own way, and head, at this time there is no reason to drop those clubs. I still have the speed and ability to play them. As for now they will remain. Perhaps some day, if I get out of my stubbornness, and find a few extra bucks I'll switch out, but for now they are gamers. Shrek74 1 Quote Titleist 712 MBs PXG 3w Scotty Golo Titleist ProV1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMikeOfficer Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 My response probably isn't so relevant to the original post (just about to turn 40, high swing speed), but the MGS e-mail seems like it's a broader question, so here goes: Yes, still have a 5 iron. The main set is 5-PW, with 2-4 irons as slightly larger, but still standard, iron heads -- I have a strong preference for iron look over hybrid (but now that I'm figuring out better shafts, might try a true hybrid again soon). I just recently dropped the 4 to that style after finding success with the 3 as part of a '21 MGS test, and then decided to get a longer one as well. I'm likely going to hold out as long as possible - definitely like the iron over a hybrid, but I'm sure that it's inevitable that I'll need to start swapping out those longer ones as I get to mid-40s. But the 5 iron? I think dropping that is a long way off for me. Shrek74 and William P 2 Quote Driver: Qi10 LS 8* w/Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 6X or Terra Forza Yellow+ (MGS Test in Progress!) Fairway: Stealth2 Plus, 15* (adjusted to 14.25*) w/ Graphite Design Tour AD-IZ 7X Irons: U505 1 Iron (16*), T200 "Utility Build" 3 and 4 irons, all with Graphite Design Tour AD-IZ 95 X Flex, T100S 5-9 with Nippon Pro Modus 120 X Flex (2021 MGS Test). These things are monsters. Wedges: SM9 46.10, 54.12, and 58.08, all with custom etchings & KBS Tour Masters-themed shafts, X-flex (CHA Post) Putter: Total headcase and Putter Ho. Down to two main options in the rotation (one mallet, one blade), but have 4-5 by the basement putting green that might make it in the bag at some point this year... Mallet: Mezz XL 36" Orange; Blade: Link.1 w/Accra White shaft & grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBMAZ Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Yep! I carry 3 thru 9 irons, plus a P, A, & S wedges. I use them all, and am learning to trust my 3 & 4 hybrids. Shrek74 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed the FD Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 I still hit my 5 iron. I would say it's one of my go to clubs. My 5 iron is a predicable shot. I have hybrid 3 and 4, but the 5 is a welcome friend in my bag. Shrek74 1 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym Irons: Callaway Paradym Putter: Odyssey White Steel Tri-Ball SRT Putter (AKA The Space Station) Bag: Sun Mountain Cart Bag Ball of Choice: Callaway Supersoft but always up to try something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joselo Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 i still carry a 5 and a 4 iron but i was leaning towards getting rid of them from previously playing mizuno's i decided to get a full set on graphite shafts and it worked out great the game improvement line has worked very well for me on all the irons Shrek74 1 Quote Callaway Ai Smoke Driver Callaway Ai Smoke 3 Wood Callaway Ai Smoke 5 Wood PXG Irons Gen 5 0311 XP 4 - PW Titleist Vokey Wedges SM8 46*, 52* & 56* Scotty Cameron - Super Select Squareback 2 Moto Vice Pro Plus NIKE Air Sport Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCW88 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 6 hours ago, IanCC said: TM mini driver in 11.5 deg? That's what I'm looking at actually as a safety fairway finder IanCC 1 Quote M.wootton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanshark Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 I’m 60+ and do not carry a 5 iron any longer. Went with hybrids 3-4-5 years ago. Easier for me to hit. Shrek74 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyle Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 I definitely still carry a 5 iron. My mizunos are 3-pw but I took out the 3 and got a hybrid but now I have a big gap between the hybrid and 4 iron. Shrek74 1 Quote Driver- Gen6 Tensei white 75g xflex tipped 9 degree 3 wood- proto hybrid- proto irons- mp52 gw- 50 degree sw- jaws 56 degree lw- 64 degree putter- bat attack bag- ball- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NmE_JR Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 As an 18 handicap I do still have a 5 iron in my bag, I rarely use it up it is part of my iron set and good to have just in case I need to use it Shrek74 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jerabek Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Great topic and everyone has their own reason. I carry a 5 iron and Utility 4 iron. In the cold I use a 4 hybrid. I am 73 and can’t hit it as far as I use too. So my gapping is critical. Great idea about a 5 utility, had not thought of that one. Thanks. Burton29 and Shrek74 2 Quote Driver Titleist Tsi 3 9.75* Fairway Titleist 5, 7 woods Hybrd Titleist TSR 2 21* or Utility iron Mizuno HiFly 4 Irons Mizuno Pro 245 5-P Wedges Vokey SM9 48*, 54*, and 58* Putter Scotty Cameron Newport super select Ball Titleist ProV 1X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton29 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 18 hours ago, alfriday101 said: Newer 5 irons seem to be where the 24/38 rule (guideline) shows up. the "rule": In the world of Clubfitting there is something called the “24/38 Rule.” Basically, it says that the majority of golfers cannot consistently hit an iron that has less than 24-degrees of loft or is more than 38 inches in its length. The reason is that a club like that requires swing skills that most average golfers do not have the ability to acquire. Thirty years ago the 24/38 line fell on the other side of the 3-iron. So, when you bought a typical 3-iron through pitching wedge iron set, you could reasonably expect to hit each of those clubs. Because of the “van- ishing loft disease,” the 24/38 line has now moved to the shy side of the 5-iron—making the 3-, 4- and even the 5-iron un-hittable for most golfers. From Wishon Golf. Something to think about. Check your specs and see how your 5 iron fits the "rule." This is a great rule! Makes a lot of sense and appreciate you sharing it. KG221 1 Quote http://www.gripgarage.ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyBananas Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 My bag changes constantly depending on course length and tightness of fairways. If the course is short I do not require a 5 iron b/c I usually tee off and have 8 iorn or less into greens. If a course is really tight, I like to carry as many irons as possible so I will ditch my hybrid and put all my irons in bag p-3. When I play a wide open longer course, I like to have Driver, 3wd, Hybrid, and Driving 3 iron in bag. I will pull my 5 iron out. I am very good at hitting knock down shots or power shots. So I can cut a 4 iron down or power up a 6 iron into the 5 iron gap. Donn lost in San Diego and Shrek74 2 Quote Taylormade Mini Brnr (11.5 degree) w/ Fujikura Motore F1 7x Taylormade Sim Titanium 3 wood (13.5 degree) w/ Fujikura Motore F1 7x Taylormade Sim 3 Hybrid w/ Fujikura Ventus 7x Titleist T-MB 6-4 irons w/ True Temper AMT white shafts Titleist 716CB P-7 w/ True Temper S300 shafts Titleist Vokey wedges - 60.4 / 56.10 / 52.8 Putter - Odyssey Black Series Tour Designs #5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesquite Kid Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 (edited) I use a 5 hybrid instead and am currently looking for a 6 hybrid. I'm 74 years old and 12.2 handicap. Edited May 10 by Mesquite Kid Shrek74 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Smith Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 4 hours ago, D.Murphy said: I have ZERO and I mean ZERO control of any sort of wood or hybrid. I think I might be regressing in terms of tech in the bag. I use the ol 4 and 5 irons all the time. Use them off the tee when the driver is doing everything but what I would like it to be doing. At one of the local courses I use my 5 6-9 times in a round, bump and runs out of tree lines. Now I do have an older set of Nikes that I have been playing with since 2009, and am probably due for a new set in the near future. But, if and when I get a new set of something, irons all day. Them hybrids and woods and all that new tech wont be collecting dust in my bag. I feel the same way about hybrids. I haven't found one yet that doesn't fly severely right to left and I don't need that. I'm a hoover already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamvietness Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 I've always had a 5 iron but never used it before and would go more towards my 3 or 5 hybrid. Somehow this season it started clicking with my iron and have been using it all season thus far. Shrek74 1 Quote Driver: Titleist TSR3 Irons: Titleist T350 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donn lost in San Diego Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 A few years ago I found a $10 barrel find: Mizuno 24 degree Fli-Hi GFF, probably circa 2012?. I will carry it maybe forever. It looks like a typical wide sole hollow body but since it is forged it stays. So, no 5 iron. A 5 wood, 20 or 21 loft late model Titleist. I don't hit the 24 deg Mizu often but it stays. I finally learned how to post pix, will do that soon. Shrek74 1 Quote #1 PXG 0211 10.5 deg, Evnflo Riptide CB 40 gram A flex. 3W: Callaway Steelhead Xr, Tensei Blue CK 55 gram A flex. 5W : Titleist TSi 1, Aldila Ascent 40 regular flex. Driving Iron: Mizuno MP 18 MMC Fli-Hi 3i 18 degree, Recoil 95 reg flex. 4 iron: GFF Mizuno Fly-Hi, 24 degree forged hollow body, Aerotech Steelfiber . 5 Hybrid: Mizuno (2017) JPX Fli-Hi wave tech, Recoil ESX 460 reg flex. Irons: 6 - PW: Ping I 500, on Recoil Smacwrap ES 760, reg flex. Wedges: 2 x Mizuno S5 52/09. 1@ 50 deg, 1@ 54 deg; New (July 2024) Mizu ES 21, 58 x 08, jet black. Chipper: Don Martin "Up n In" brass/bronze. Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab "R" Ball, face balanced, with 2 piece Stroke Lab multi material shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donn lost in San Diego Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 30 minutes ago, JoeyBananas said: My bag changes constantly depending on course length and tightness of fairways. If the course is short I do not require a 5 iron b/c I usually tee off and have 8 iorn or less into greens. If a course is really tight, I like to carry as many irons as possible so I will ditch my hybrid and put all my irons in bag p-3. When I play a wide open longer course, I like to have Driver, 3wd, Hybrid, and Driving 3 iron in bag. I will pull my 5 iron out. I am very good at hitting knock down shots or power shots. So I can cut a 4 iron down or power up a 6 iron into the 5 iron gap. Changing the bag to fit the course makes a lot of sense. My new local has bare dirt and no rough, so I don;t need a rescue type hybrid. Mizuno 3 driv iron and Mizu 24 degree GFF fly-hi are important. Shrek74 1 Quote #1 PXG 0211 10.5 deg, Evnflo Riptide CB 40 gram A flex. 3W: Callaway Steelhead Xr, Tensei Blue CK 55 gram A flex. 5W : Titleist TSi 1, Aldila Ascent 40 regular flex. Driving Iron: Mizuno MP 18 MMC Fli-Hi 3i 18 degree, Recoil 95 reg flex. 4 iron: GFF Mizuno Fly-Hi, 24 degree forged hollow body, Aerotech Steelfiber . 5 Hybrid: Mizuno (2017) JPX Fli-Hi wave tech, Recoil ESX 460 reg flex. Irons: 6 - PW: Ping I 500, on Recoil Smacwrap ES 760, reg flex. Wedges: 2 x Mizuno S5 52/09. 1@ 50 deg, 1@ 54 deg; New (July 2024) Mizu ES 21, 58 x 08, jet black. Chipper: Don Martin "Up n In" brass/bronze. Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab "R" Ball, face balanced, with 2 piece Stroke Lab multi material shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NmE_JR Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 On 5/7/2024 at 1:57 PM, Northern Monkey said: I’m 52 and still have a 5 iron, and a 4 iron, in my bag although I have been thinking about swapping out the 4 iron I recommend that you switch the 4 iron to a 4 hybrid, my dad is around your age and he switched to a 4 hybrid and it has really helped his game Northern Monkey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j smith Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 About a year ago, I traded out my 5 iron for a 5 hybrid Cobra one-length which I love. It gives me the same or better distance and is MUCH easier to hit. Shrek74 1 Quote Senior golfers getting shorter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krls032022 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 I’m 74 and I play forged CB irons with traditional lofts. So I carry 4 - GW & 52 degree wedge. I also carry a driver, strong 3w, 4w & 7w. The forged irons just feel better than cast clubs. Shrek74 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBob Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 I guess I’m the outlier. When I turned 75, replaced my 5 iron for a hybrid until I bought Callaway Rogue ST Max 6-AW this past year. Less than two weeks later, ordered the matching 5I and moved it into my bag. It maxes out at 184, but is usually good for 175, so it matches well for my 3H and 3W. Shrek74 1 Quote Bob Preston Ping G driver and 3 wood Calloway 3 hybrid TA1 stiff steel irons Callaway wedges Odessy putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddlemm Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Sure do and use it on long par 4's. Shrek74 1 Quote Baton Rouge Louisiana PXG Gen 6 Driver 10.5 Project X Cypher 50 5.5 Callaway Rogue X irons Donor Vietnam Veteran 69-70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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