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Put the standard Tours in play this past weekend and loved ‘em! Definitely lower launch than the X and that was what I was looking for as I already have a naturally high trajectory with my swing. With that being said I feel I got better distance off the tee. Approach still had enough spin for me. Had several shots within 120 yds that stopped within a foot of the landing spot ball mark on the green. Putting will take a little more getting used to as the softer Tour didn’t have that pop off the putter face like the harder X/CSX/ProV1X. So just minor adjustment getting used to the speed control. Overall only lost 4 balls over the course of 2 rounds which is a huge improvement over loosing 8-9 in a round before. The standard Tours definitely deserve more game time!

Explain why you chose the model you did: Really think the one length would benefit my game. I struggle with consistency with 4-6i and verified with Arccos however much stronger with 7i in. So a one length 7i would be awesome. Excited about the forgiveness this forged set seems to offer and looking to better be able to work the ball compared to my current gamers. List your first name/city state (US Only entries): Richard Delmont Boca Raton Fl 33428 What current irons you're playing: 2019 PXG 0211 COR2 with KBS C-taper 120 stiff Jumbomax Ultralite XS grips -1/4” Handicap: 16 Will you agree to patriciate in discussions on the forum about your experience with the irons after receiving them: Yes

For me the Tour X plays almost exactly the same as the MTBX which is a little shorter 8-10 yds because of the higher ball flight off the tee as compared to CS X/LS but play very similar with irons and short game spin compared to MTBX/ProV1X/CSX. I would actually prefer the feel of my irons with the Tour X vs the harder V1X/CSX/XLS. The ProV1X has the height and spin with irons/short game just really lacks the feel for me since it’s so hard. My ideal ball would be XLS off the tee and Tour X with irons and wedge/short game. I’ll find out this weekend if I can get that kind of performance from the regular Tours. As mentioned in my previous post I already get enough height with my swing as it is.

For me I already have a high launch and trajectory with my swing. So the Tour X was around 8-10 Yds shorter off the driver compared to ChromeSoft X and XLS for me. The Tour X played almost exactly the same as Snell MTB X (which is also shorter for me vs CA X/LS off the tee). But I loved the feel of the Tour X off the irons better than any ball so far. So I just went and picked up 2 doz of the regular Tours to put in play this weekend and see if and really hope that the launch and spin is a better fit. According to the MGS ball test the regular Tours should perform very similar to the CS XLS.

I used to live right on the Broward Dade Border in Miramar before moving North into Palm Beach County. I used to play Miami Lakes Golf Club (aka Shula's) https://www.miamilakesgolf.com/, Country Club of Miami http://golfccmiami.com/ (Jackie Gleason used to own a 9,000 sqft house on this course), Grand Palms Resort in Pembroke Pines https://www.grandpalmsresort.com/. I haven't played there in years so not sure what the courses are like now. I think Plantation Preserve and Jacaranda are nice but over priced for what they are. Over by Ft Lauderdale airport there is Davie Golf Club https://www.daviegolf.net/ and the Club at Emerald Hills https://www.theclubatemeraldhills.com/ which has some great views of the Hard Rock Guitar hotel and is one of the longest courses down here playing 7800 yds from the tips! And if you can somehow find a hookup, Grande Oaks (private) is where Caddyshack was filmed https://www.grandeoaks.com/! North Broward I typically play TPC Eagle Trace in Coral Springs (used to play the Honda Classic there in the late 80s) https://eagletrace.clublink.com/. One of the best value courses and hidden gems in Broward County is Woodmont Country Club in Tamarac https://woodmontcountryclub.net/. My home track right by where I live in Boca Raton is probably one of the best public courses in all of South Florida, Osprey Point which has 3 9s. https://www.pbcospreypointgolf.com/ Feel free to message me when you get into South Florida. Maybe we can get a game setup.

I actually setup with my trail hand first with club face on target line. If you look at any pro regardless of swing style (single or two plane) on plane impact occurs when the shaft is in line with the trail arm at least up to the elbow. I’m a single plane swinger so that’s where I want to feel like I’m setup on my impact plane shaft in line with trail forearm. If I were to setup with lead hand first I feel like (1) it’s easy for me to come in too underneath with my trail hand which can lead to a tendency of over rotation of the trail hand and over closing the club face at impact. And (2), with lead hand first I get the feeling it opens my shoulders too much since you’re technically reaching further down the club with your trail hand. Who knows, maybe that’s why I’m still at at 16hdcp (even though I have improved a few strokes this year). Just have to find what is comfortable at setup for a consistent swing and do it the same way every time. Start overthinking it and trying to tweak with setup as you play leads to catastrophe.

My short irons are 5* gaps ending at set matching 45* PW kept that going to a 50* GW and then 54* and 58*. Only “full swing” with PW and GW really but even then at best it’s 90%. I play my 50* in the 75-110yd range, 54 is exclusively for green side bunkers, and 58* for 75yds and in. So I’m really playing an 8* gap between GW and LW since I don’t pull my 54 outside of a trap.

I second the Frog on the west side. I live in Florida by my company's office is on the East side of Atlanta so I'm up there quite a bit. Also on the southwest side (10 minutes west of the airport) is Wolf Creek. Never packed there and just very peaceful to play. It's out in the "boonies" East side of Atlanta you have the Stone Mountain resort (Marriott property) which has 2 nice courses, Stonemont and Lakemont. There are some really pretty views on on both tracks. Perhaps my favorite hidden gem on the East side is Cherokee Run out in Conyers/Covington area (about 25 minutes from downtown). There is not a single flat lie on this course. It is very hilly and woody but a lot of fun (and a lot frustration) to play!!

My bag is setup with Mizuno T22s. I try to keep it as simple as possible. Everything 60 yds in is my 58-12 deg bounce. When chipping bump and run (within 3-5 yds from green) I'll go as low as 8i depending on how much green to work with. Pitching outside the 5 yd from greenside range, I just go with the 58. Depending on lie I'll work the face, open it up in the rough. Full swing 58 from the fairway for me is about 77 yds. Bunker side sand is exclusively my 54-10 deg bounce. Again working the face depending on distance. Everything 60-115 yds is my 50-07 deg bounce. Just clock the swing for distance. Since it's pretty much full sole, I don't really work the face much. I selected the Mizuno D grind for my 54 and 58 which has good toe/heel relief allowing to face manipulation. S Grind on my 50 is full sole/minimal relief as I usually take more full swings with this.

In late Jan I bought the 5star perfect reaction mat. Looks very similar to the Country Club Elite. https://5stargolfmats.com/5-star-gorilla-perfect-reaction-golf-mats-4x5/. The prices definitely went up in the last 4 months. But overall extremely happy with it. I just lay it on my grass lawn to hit in my net. You can stick a tee in it, but if you use tall tees, it's difficult to get the tee into the base pad. So the tee will only go about 5/8" into the "grass" part of the mat. But it came with a rubber tee holder so using that you can use whatever tee you want. I bought the 4'x5' size. If I would have seen it, I would have paid more for the 5' hexagon mat. That way you can constantly rotate it so you are not always standing on the same spot. With my rectangle mat, I just flip it after 3-4 sessions. I hit about 100 balls every 2-3 days or so (more than 1000 shots to date). I just leave it outside (I live in South Florida so plenty of rain) and it has not had any effect on the performance of the mat at all. No wrist issues after 4 months. When you hit it fat you can feel it (nothing that vibrates or is hard on the wrists) and it's noticeable in the data if you have a portable launch monitor (I see about a 25 yd distance loss on fat shots).

I'm looking to refine impact location in my backyard net. Done a lot of work to date with some good ol handy foot spray and my shag bag balls. Significant improvement with irons. But when tinkering with my driver setup/swing, a couple times I've skied one up and over the house and who knows where it landed! Too nervous to keep swinging driver. Since I'm not looking for any speed/distance/spin data with my Mevo, just club face strike location, I'm looking for some limited flight balls to practice with at home so I can comfortably swing the big stick. Sounds like the SCI-Core, Callaway HX Soft Flight practice or the AlmostGolf balls are the best options. So now my questions for those that use limited flight practice balls at home: 1) Any other options I should consider? 2) Are they dense enough to show through foot spray on the face? 3) How long did they last? Thanks in advance!

That's the basic principle with the single plane swing I'm working with. Ball position remains constant (about club head inside front foot) and the stance width adjustments is what changes the position relative to center sternum. Narrower width just inside shoulders with wedges/short irons, shoulder width stance with mid/long irons and fairway wood. Driver is the only time I change ball position in line with front foot and stance slightly wider than shoulder width. I found like you experienced when ball is too far back more fat shots from either back shoulder dropping or getting too much forward weight transfer resulting in then coming in too steep.

So I’ve had a new driver (G425 LST) for about 2 weeks now and have not hit it once. Instead for the last 3 weeks I’ve been hitting 100 balls or so every other day in my net with the rest of the bag. Not using the Mevo flightscope just a good ol can of spray powder to focus on contact through the bag. Really working on finding a consistent setup routine and ball position to give me better center face strikes. Wow what a difference practice makes. Much better impact and even picked up a few mph swing speed. Finally pulled out the flightscope yesterday to redistance my clubs. Started at 147yd avg 9i and gapped about 11-12yds per club though my 3h. So overall consistently gained about 5-6yds carry distance per club. Now have to work on the woods!

Western Birch tees are great! They also have them at Dick’s/Golf Galaxy. I have used 1 tee for multiple rounds (par 3s I usually look for a broken tee).

Just went for a driver fitting at my local Club Champion. Current setup is Ping G400 Max 10.5 deg (set to 9.6) with Oban Devotion 6 shaft in stiff. I tend to have a high launch, high ball flight and steep descent angle with this setup so maybe at best I get 10 yds roll out. Been averaging about 245 carry and 255 total. Pretty much neutral 0 deg AoA. SS avg 107mph. Tested the Rouge Triple Diamond which brought spin down only a little. TSi3 not too forgiving for me with wider dispersion but solid strikes were nice. Stealth Plus 8deg but hated the appearance of the clubhead at address and just couldn't get comfortable with it so didn't see any noticeable improvements. The Winner: Ping G425 LST dialed down to 7.5 deg and set to draw with Mitsubishi C6 Blue Stiff shaft. Dropped my spin and launch enough to pick up about 15yds on average. Good dispersion and very forgiving for me so mishits didn't have a huge distance penalty. Hit a few with 260 carry 280 total distance. Fingers crossed it actually arrives in 3-4 weeks like I'm told!!

I've really been struggling with finding that consistent address routine and comfortable setup. Recently purchased the 5star Perfect reaction mat to hit off in my yard. It has been awesome. Feel is great, easy on the hands, and can still feel if I thin or chunk one (saw a difference of about 20yds on my Mevo Flightscope with a fattie). Been trying to swing for an hour and half or so at lunch time each day the past week. Stocked up on a few cans of foot spray and been working through the bag. First focus was honing in on consistent routine to get the right distance from the ball at setup more consistently. With the spray, I was able to play around with setup and see what the effect was on clubface strike location. Initially, I noticed I was hitting really high on the club face...so too steep. Worked on combination of stance width with various clubs in conjunction with tempo and hand path. After a week now I've settled in on a comfortable routine and am finding the center of the club face more often than not. Not perfectly consistent yet, some strikes a little towards heel or little toward toe in center of face, but no more blatant heel or toe strikes! With more consistency, next I'll go back through the bag to re-benchmark carry distances. Now that I'm getting settled in with my setup and swing finally, I plan in the near future getting a few different sleeves of balls doing my own ball fitting testing to find the best ball for me and compare results with the MGS Ball Test data. Playing a round or two next week so we'll see how much this work has paid off so far. Also scheduled a driver fitting since I'm up about 10mph in swing speed. Currently sitting at 17.5 hdcp and goal this year is to get down to around a 13.5 hdcp.

Can you please send me the the review template? I'm working on a few unofficial reviews I'd like to post in the near future (5 star hitting mat, Mizuno T22 wedges, and some golf ball testing compared to the MGS ball test).

Here’s a ball from the box I just picked up from the PGA Tour Superstore. No chevron on the 2022s like the picture….box matches though. I’ll have to see if I still have a prior Gen in the bag.

I search and look at the box. There are slight changes. Here is the previous generation box vs the new 2022. You can see the graphics are different. Just looking at the balls themselves, I don't think you can visually see any differece.

Just picked up a box today.

Hmm didn’t see the other thread. I saw the MGS review. I plan on buying a box of each to go along with some ProVs and Maxfli Tour X I already have and look at some numbers on my home setup.

I've been an X LS guy last half of last year. Excited to hear fellow Spie's experience with the 2022 models. Are us "amateur hours" - Manolo - good enough to notice the claimed improved spin performance? I plan on playing some of the X LS vs Bridgestone Tour B X.

I wear a lot of ECCOs both golf and dress shoes. I wear a 43 in ECCOs which is 9/9.5 US but with other shoes I'm more around 10.5. Best thing I found with shoes is to measure your foot in inches. Put a piece of paper on the floor against the wall. Then put your heel against the wall and draw a line at your big toe and measure that length. I then look up the size chart for the specific shoe I'm looking at to see what the actual measurement in inches translates to their shoe size. Hasn't failed me yet when looking at shoes I can't physically try on.

For me, I spent a lot of time in the scoring aspect during COVID. I bought a chipping net so I can hit 20-30 yard pitches and work on chipping. Also picked up an indoor putting mat that I can work on 10 footers and in. Now I feel very comfortable making those short 5' and in putts. Also when you lag putt from long distance imagine the hole is 3 ft diameter, that's the target with long putts to get it within that 3 ft.

I hit in my backyard, but have used a mat just in the strike area. So tore up my lawn (St. Augustine grass) with my stance and rotation. Just dropped on a new mat to try. My post is here.